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taxidriver

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I never said it didn't. But it isn't hard to argue that QLD were the far superior side. NSW had our chances but didn't capitalise. We had better calls towards the end of the game and did nothing with them.


im questioning what put QLD in that position.

possession and field position were handed to them on a plate, at this level and as good as QLD are, off course they will take advantage

at the end of the game, the horse had bolted and we had no gas left in the tank
 

Knightmare

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sorry mate, but that is too simplistic in its analysis

a couple of square ups at the end when the damage is done to make the records look better?

that first twenty minutes completely f**ked us over, the one sided penalties, the lack of equitable calls for the same offence all leading to NSW having to make close to 100 extra tackles well before half time.

i can't even begin to fathom how you can argue that the outcome wasn't heavily influenced by that


This is a fair point. Qld had more energy and creativity in attack for most of the game, however the opening 20 gave them that extra momentum and sucked a lot of the energy from NSW. The Maroons managed to hold on to the football better, some of the loose ball from NSW was frustrating to watch as well but I hardly think it's reason for NSW to go into panic stations. Qld scored 4 trie to 1, 3 of those Maroons tries were hugely influenced by Merritt's blunders. Without those, the final score is 10-6. Much more of the Origin contest we're used to.

Qld were sharper all night and their halves were more dangerous in attack, but for mine the final scoreline is mostly reflective of the opening 20 minutes and Merritt rather than on the whole NSW team or the game itself...
 

gUt

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typical response from the genius

you offer nothing.

I'd just be joining the chorus of millions who know the refs had less to do with the result than you'd like to believe. The first penalty was correct, the next one I didn't see so can't comment (yet).

Lighten up sandvag, there's still another game.
 

Knightmare

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Then there was that penalty against Tate (?) for a high tackle that was just a brush of the throat, or the one against Slater for the elbow (haven't seen the replay but it looked accidental). They were two bad calls against Qld but by then the damage had already been done...
 

taxidriver

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Then there was that penalty against Tate (?) for a high tackle that was just a brush of the throat, or the one against Slater for the elbow (haven't seen the replay but it looked accidental). They were two bad calls against Qld but by then the damage had already been done...


the slater one accidental?

While the match review committee ruled Slater's elbow was "accidental" and he escaped penalty, it has been confirmed that Slater said "one-all, c...," after swinging his elbow at Pearce. It was a square-up following an incident in game one.
 

ozenzud

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Then there was that penalty against Tate (?) for a high tackle that was just a brush of the throat, or the one against Slater for the elbow (haven't seen the replay but it looked accidental). They were two bad calls against Qld but by then the damage had already been done...

What? Accidental! Slater has form and it looked pretty deliberate to me and most other people. Refs only saw if on replay.

I am completely unbiased as I could not care who wins.

The refing in game one was passable with the odd mistake.

The refing in game two was a stream of constant penalities 4-0 in the first 20-25 minutes and was systematically biased.

Anybody who knows anything about modern Rugby League knows it is all about momentum and field position. I think the possession was 127 tackles to 24 at one stage. Thats huge. On top of that possession comes fatigue. Which means that while you get the ball you are too fatigued to do anything with it.

That ain't rocket science. I'm sprouting the obvious....even to a Queenslander.

The refs were intimidated by the crowd and had a shocker. That is a fact, no matter what Queensland supporters say.

I am so sick and tired of refing standard at the moment. It is so bad. The strip rule sux. Get rid of it. Make players hold onto the ball.
 

gUt

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Then there was that penalty against Tate (?) for a high tackle that was just a brush of the throat, or the one against Slater for the elbow (haven't seen the replay but it looked accidental). They were two bad calls against Qld but by then the damage had already been done...

The Slater one was pretty deliberate although I doubt he meant to open him up. Pearce's skin is as fragile as his defence it seems.
 

taxidriver

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What? Accidental! Slater has form and it looked pretty deliberate to me and most other people. Refs only saw if on replay.

I am completely unbiased as I could not care who wins.

The refing in game one was passable with the odd mistake.

The refing in game two was a stream of constant penalities 4-0 in the first 20-25 minutes and was systematically biased.

Anybody who knows anything about modern Rugby League knows it is all about momentum and field position. I think the possession was 127 tackles to 24 at one stage. Thats huge. On top of that possession comes fatigue. Which means that while you get the ball you are too fatigued to do anything with it.

That ain't rocket science. I'm sprouting the obvious....even to a Queenslander.

The refs were intimidated by the crowd and had a shocker. That is a fact, no matter what Queensland supporters say.

I am so sick and tired of refing standard at the moment. It is so bad. The strip rule sux. Get rid of it. Make players hold onto the ball.


well said
 

Knightmare

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Thread is delivering.

You could set your watch to this shit.


Could have said the same after Game 1, tbh.

Last night was odd full-stop- the lack of build up due to the Labor leadership spill, the sending off of 4 players at once...it definitely didn't have the feel we've come to expect of Origins more recently and it's a shame because I thought last night would be huge...instead we have to wait for Game 3...
 

Knightmare

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The Slater one was pretty deliberate although I doubt he meant to open him up. Pearce's skin is as fragile as his defence it seems.


I haven't seen the Slater elbow since last night but based on what he allegedly said to Pearce then perhaps it wasn't so accidental after all...
 

Frank_Grimes

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your opinion is worthless unless you back it up with facts.

what point in that article is not true?

just one will do

You've not presented any points to refute. You've posted a whinging article designed to sell papers by aiming at the heartstrings of those disappointed by the outcome last night, and looking to vent.

At the end of the day, you're just a sad loser who can't admit that QLD were the better team last night, and that NSW had more than enough opportunities to claw it back, but just couldn't.
 

Frank_Grimes

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I haven't seen the Slater elbow since last night but based on what he allegedly said to Pearce then perhaps it wasn't so accidental after all...

It looked pretty deliberate to me, and Slater looked like he took offence to Pearce swinging an arm at him in that tackle.
 

betcats

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Slater clocked him pretty good, as much as I hate the merkin i wish he had of hit Pearce harder.
 

firechild

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The refs were rubbish but that is to be expected these days (whether it's NRL or origin). However, they had little bearing on the result.

I do think it's funny how short the memories of the QLD posters are after the monumental whinge after game 1.
 

betcats

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Agree with Firey, the refs were poor and it went the way of the home team a bit more as can be expected but I thought QLD clearly had us beat from the outset.

All in all I thought it was a pretty meek nsw performance after a lot of talk in the builx up.
 

Frank_Grimes

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I do think it's funny how short the memories of the QLD posters are after the monumental whinge after game 1.

I can't find any thread dedicated to ref calls after game 1. Sure there was some whinging about Gallen not being sent, but where is this 'monumental whinging' about refs deciding the outcome? (apart from Dazzat) Happy to be proven wrong, but I just didn't see this level of bitching about ref calls deciding the outcome.
 

firechild

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I can't find any thread dedicated to ref calls after game 1. Sure there was some whinging about Gallen not being sent, but where is this 'monumental whinging' about refs deciding the outcome? (apart from Dazzat) Happy to be proven wrong, but I just didn't see this level of bitching about ref calls deciding the outcome.

Only a matter of time before my stalker drops in.

I said nothing about Queenslanders whinging about refs. I simply said they had a monumental whinge. I guess you can only be called a whinger if you are whinging about refs?
 
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