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Richardson calls for suburban footy to be axed

Loudstrat

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Bunniespoof, if you aint counting Balmain and Wests as remaining from pre WWII, dont count your mob who were so stupid they elected Piggins who sucessfully piloted their death a few years ago. The Wests Tigers playing at Leichhardt and Campbelltown and the Dragons playing at Kogarah is more remeniscent of their heritage than Souffs who doont even play anywhere near their district.

There are some stupid morons with stupid ideas. I am baffled as to what AFL has to do with this, apart from, of course, to fuel the paranoia of twats like Perth Red. Suburban footy works in Sydney because, unlike any other Australian city, it is actually a number of sub-cities rolled into one. This is because of topography- 7 harbours and some of the hilliest coastline in the country dominate their transport corridors. Every other city is built on a broad flat plain with a river dwindling through it. Melbourne has a public transport system that Sydney could never have. That's why we should worry about Melbourne and AFL as much as we should worry about the latest warts on Paris Hilton's vulva.

People who are paranoid about AFL have not the mental capacity to comment on what RL should do.

Goddo - the Central Coast Bears hater who demands it written into the constitution that no new NSW teams should never ever exist, wants Manly to play at a ground near a railway station. In other words, play outside their district. Not only is that akin to asking the Israelies to move the Great Synagogue of Jerusalem to an Al Quaeda Jihad camp in Pakistan, but the nearest ground with a railway station nearby is - NORTH SYDNEY OVAL!!!!!!!!! ](*,)

I dunno how many people have said that there isnt the money to revamp ANZ, but then decide the solution is to build another 40k seater somewhere. No. Sydney has enough stadia. Brisbane has sweet f*ck all given that there is 16 bids who all want to play out of Suncorp. No one has mentioned that Parra Stadium will be upgraded to a 35k all seater.

And the bottom line is this - when you have a home game against Brisbane, people are far more likely to come home from work, scrub the kids up, wolf down some pizza and go to their local ground rather than trapse all he way to f*cking ANZ. For many, that feat would be impossible.

So to all the AFL paranoid types - simply - f*ck off. Your dream of doing whatever AFL does will kill RL, because for 104 seasons we have been doing it better anyway.
 

franklin2323

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I doubt you get around to these places.

I get to every Panthers Sydney game. So I know they can be difficult to get to but if we move the games we need to make sure 80-90% that attend LO, BO etc can get there. There is no guarantee the 13k we get now would make the trip & that defents the purpose. Atm they don't attend away games at these venues now.
 

DC_fan

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Bunniespoof, if you aint counting Balmain and Wests as remaining from pre WWII, dont count your mob who were so stupid they elected Piggins who sucessfully piloted their death a few years ago. The Wests Tigers playing at Leichhardt and Campbelltown and the Dragons playing at Kogarah is more remeniscent of their heritage than Souffs who doont even play anywhere near their district.

I don't believe its about district football anymore, probably hasn't been for sometime. District football is something people who can't let go of the past like to talk about. We are in 2012 not 1972. Time to move on.

You mention George Piggins, well I agree with your comments with what he did to Souths. But George was all about Souths and district football. His thought was that the only people who counted for Souths were those who lived within a stones throw of Redfern Oval.
 

cleary89

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Your comparing Leichardt,Win, Brookvale etc to Emirates, Villa Park or White Hart Lane?

AFL draws big crowds outside of Victoria, lesser sports such as soccer and RU also draw crowds comparable with many NRL teams, AFL is setting the attendance bar, it is up to the NRL to match it. If we do the outcomes will be massive for the sport (even bigger than the TV deal)

What about QPR who play out of an 18k capacity ground? MOVE ALL THEIR GAMES TO WEMBLEY!!!
 

juanfarkall

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Like usual, you're wrong. St George, Balmain and Western Suburbs do not exist. The moment they merged and sadly pissed on their history, they became new clubs, they have a 12 year history.

Until St George erases that hyphen in their name and the word "Illawarra" or until Balmain ditches Wests, we have 3 pre war teams, not 6. Souths, Easts and Canterbury.

If the Bears come back we'll have a fourth.

You can't really claim S(c)uff$ whilst they are owned by a foreigner and trade as Blackheath Sports can you ?
Remember when the club's own members voted in favour of handing it all over to a couple of outsiders ?
At least the 3 clubs you dissed still have legitimate claims to representing their districts and actually play games in their traditional areas.
 

Perth Red

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What about QPR who play out of an 18k capacity ground? MOVE ALL THEIR GAMES TO WEMBLEY!!!

and if you look at how QPR struggle to compete and have been relegated a numbr of times, gone into administration and not come close to winning silverware in the modern era it is a great example of why playing in small outdated suburban grounds is not a good idea when yopur competitors are playing in large capacity, quality corporate facilities modern stadia. Thanks for the example!
 

Perth Red

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Bunniespoof, if you aint counting Balmain and Wests as remaining from pre WWII, dont count your mob who were so stupid they elected Piggins who sucessfully piloted their death a few years ago. The Wests Tigers playing at Leichhardt and Campbelltown and the Dragons playing at Kogarah is more remeniscent of their heritage than Souffs who doont even play anywhere near their district.

There are some stupid morons with stupid ideas. I am baffled as to what AFL has to do with this, apart from, of course, to fuel the paranoia of twats like Perth Red. Suburban footy works in Sydney because, unlike any other Australian city, it is actually a number of sub-cities rolled into one. This is because of topography- 7 harbours and some of the hilliest coastline in the country dominate their transport corridors. Every other city is built on a broad flat plain with a river dwindling through it. Melbourne has a public transport system that Sydney could never have. That's why we should worry about Melbourne and AFL as much as we should worry about the latest warts on Paris Hilton's vulva.

People who are paranoid about AFL have not the mental capacity to comment on what RL should do.

Goddo - the Central Coast Bears hater who demands it written into the constitution that no new NSW teams should never ever exist, wants Manly to play at a ground near a railway station. In other words, play outside their district. Not only is that akin to asking the Israelies to move the Great Synagogue of Jerusalem to an Al Quaeda Jihad camp in Pakistan, but the nearest ground with a railway station nearby is - NORTH SYDNEY OVAL!!!!!!!!! ](*,)

I dunno how many people have said that there isnt the money to revamp ANZ, but then decide the solution is to build another 40k seater somewhere. No. Sydney has enough stadia. Brisbane has sweet f*ck all given that there is 16 bids who all want to play out of Suncorp. No one has mentioned that Parra Stadium will be upgraded to a 35k all seater.

And the bottom line is this - when you have a home game against Brisbane, people are far more likely to come home from work, scrub the kids up, wolf down some pizza and go to their local ground rather than trapse all he way to f*cking ANZ. For many, that feat would be impossible.

So to all the AFL paranoid types - simply - f*ck off. Your dream of doing whatever AFL does will kill RL, because for 104 seasons we have been doing it better anyway.

an appropriate post for heritage round last week!
 

Loudstrat

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It's an appropriate post for any time you paranoid AFL wankers turn up and demand RL as we know it is dismantled because "they dont do it that way at the AFL"

The result of doing it that AFL way is to be confined to the only coastline facing Antarctica, not even having a full f*cking jumper to wear, and having your best players wander into rehab with a kilo of China White shoved up their arse!

Even a sh*thole like Brookvale Oval is better than the entire sport of AFL!!!!!!!

I don't believe its about district football anymore, probably hasn't been for sometime. District football is something people who can't let go of the past like to talk about. We are in 2012 not 1972. Time to move on.
Tell that to one team towns you clown.

You mention George Piggins, well I agree with your comments with what he did to Souths. But George was all about Souths and district football. His thought was that the only people who counted for Souths were those who lived within a stones throw of Redfern Oval.
Umm, George took 'em to the SFS

AFL f*cked up royally when they DUMPED their suburban homes. Geelong has the only ground that can claim to be in it's heartland. In contrast we have only two clubs (Souffs and Canterbury) that DONT play in it's heartland!

Having a you beaut stadium will NOt increase crowds if it is too far from where their crowds are. Only probably SOuths doesnt have a major influence on it's traditional district, but like most Sydney teams their fanbase has spread. That said, the majority of fans live in the district which is represented by their team, or at least grew up there. That, plus transport issues, means timmediately moving all games to ANZ/SFS is a bad move for Manly, Parra, Penrith, Cronulla, Wests and the Dragons. Histpry backs this up. Manly's woeful semi final crowd at the SFS - simply because of the brainless argument that "semi final fooball deserves a better ground" (when the actual playing surface was probably no beter) - was at least 5k worse that it would have been at Brookvale. Saints once called the SFS home and their crowds were abysmal. Even - oddly - Souths SFS crowds were poor, and are far better at ANZ.

The logistics are important. ANZ is central, SFS is not. Easts do well at the SFS because that's their district. Souths didnt - even though it's virtually their district too. The Dogs do better at ANZ because it's close to where they are. Likewise, Wests and Souths have done well there for the same reason. That is because Redfern, Balmain, Belmore and Lidcome are all within a 15m car trip from ANZ!!!!!!!!

Do the trip up from Campbelltown and see how ya get on. I did it (Homebush to Campbelltown) at 2am two Saturday mornings ago. It took me 45mins with no traffic (including a brief Maccas stop at Warwick Farm). Imagine that on Friday night AFTER spending an hour in gridlock to get home first?

Nope. 16k at Parra Stadium on a big Friday Night game is a zillion times better than anything less than 65k at ANZ.
 

KnightsMan90

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The NRL should not be worried about ANZ and if it becomes a white elephant. With possibly 4 NRL teams and an Aleague team there is justification for a AAMI style 35-40K stadium in Sydney's West. Maybe the ARLC should get into bed with a property developer, the developer puts up the $250-300mill to build it and the ARLC guarantee rental for X amount of years for its teams to use to make it a vaible investment for a developer.

Great idea, if you want the 4 RL teams paying higher rental fees then the Titans currently play.
 

adamkungl

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Souths would do so much better at the SFS. Their crowds have improved because of their membership drive and relative on-field success ( :lol: )
 

BunniesMan

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Souths would do so much better at the SFS. Their crowds have improved because of their membership drive and relative on-field success ( :lol: )
The thing is what the SFS offers isn't even in the same ballpark as ANZ. The SFS needs to get it's head in the game, it's so far from it's rival it's not funny.

Hopefully when our contract is up with ANZ the SFS can put in a sane offer that we could consider.
 

CC_Roosters

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liking todays story about the match of the round at sfs/anz. Would be a great to see games marketed properly for once
 

_Johnsy

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Not sure if the article I am about to oct has already been referred to in this thread. if it has apologies. great article posted on the r2k site.

http://www.r2k.info/05042012.htm

This is our house!
5 April 2012

When will the rugby league Administrators ever learn?

At a time when we should be enjoying an exciting new era under the governance of the independent commission, rugby league fans have been dragged back into the doldrums by the conceited agenda of South Sydney chief executive Shane Richardson.

The NRL tell us that “This is Our House”, but our great suburban homes such as Kogarah Jubilee, Leichhardt, Parramatta, Penrith, Wollongong and Brookvale are no longer good enough for Richardson’s vision of the game.

It’s totally incongruous for South Sydney to criticise other Sydney Clubs for holding true to their traditions. Souths are the Club that rightfully bemoaned their axing from the NRL at the end of 1999 after failing to meet the NRL’s selection criteria.

Supporters from rival teams including St.George, North Sydney, Canterbury, Wests, and Newtown marched against the injustice that the NRL inflicted upon the Rabbitohs.

However, the Rabbitohs, who no longer play home games in South Sydney, are jealous that St.George-Illawarra has the best boutique sporting facility in NSW at Kogarah Jubilee.

Unfortunately for South Sydney supporters, the Rabbitohs didn’t have the tenacity and vision to transform Redfern Oval into a first-class NRL sporting facility. The Rabbitohs yielded when Clover Moore MP expressed her opposition and now George Piggins isn’t considered worthy to be immortalised by a statue at the site.

Fans welcomed the formation of the independent commission and were sold on the idea that it would heal the wounds left by the Super League war and News Limited’s control of the game.

However, the push to kill off the suburban homes is as divisive as anything that happened at the height of the Super League war.

Fans love their traditional surburban grounds. They are symbolic of the game’s glorious past and they need to be a significant component of the NRL’s future.

St.George fans love Kogarah Jubilee, just as Manly fans love Brookvale and Tigers’ fans love Leichhardt.

They provide our clubs with a distinct home ground advantage and create community spirit in the districts that the clubs represent.

Sending Manly and Cronulla home games to Homebush or Moore Park would be unsuccessful, just as St.George’s seven seasons away from Kogarah since 1985 have been unsuccessful.

As David Gallop previously said, the NRL needs to “fish where the fish are.”

The NRL doesn’t need bitterness at a time when it is facing extra competition from the AFL in Sydney and from Soccer’s A-League.

This is our house, and self-important individuals such as Shane Richardson need to stay out of it.

Administrators like St.George-Illawarra CEO Peter Doust need to stand up for beloved suburban home grounds and not endorse an agenda that will ultimately weaken rugby league.
 

Glen

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He's sick of trying to find a new McDonalds near every different ground around Sydney. For himself and his star fullback
 

BunniesMan

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Literally the worst article I've ever read.

Blows smoke up Kogarah, St George and Doust. DOUST AGREED WITH RICHO IN THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE FFS.

Where was the outcry for not weakening rugby league when foundation clubs likes Norths, Wests and Balmain were in talks to merge. Where is the outcry on behalf of history when we run out in terrible jerseys when some of the most iconic jerseys in Australian sport collect dust in a corner of some basement.

The hypocrisy astounds me.
 

adamkungl

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The thing is what the SFS offers isn't even in the same ballpark as ANZ. The SFS needs to get it's head in the game, it's so far from it's rival it's not funny.

Hopefully when our contract is up with ANZ the SFS can put in a sane offer that we could consider.

Lol the SFS doesn't need to do shit.
 
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