Round 13 v Tigers

[since77]

Well that's different, I was expecting "because it's a mess!"

It's Millward's fault

 

[MilanDragon]

Mary has made the stupid statement - Dugan to be fullback while ever he is coach. This will block the testing of Dufty/Field/Mann at fullback. And even when Dugan is not available, Mary selects Nightingale at fullback.

However, Millward wants Field at fullback for 2018, what if he is not up to it? Do we just lose games in 2018 while testing prospective fullbacks. Maybe even losing Mann because we did not test and find him suitable for selection at fullback. It's a mess.

Do we just lose games in 2017 when we are sitting top 8 to trial a prospective FB for 2018?

Both sides of the argument are fair but that is the reality.. what gives? 2017 or 2018?

 

[The Damo]

Milne is a centre not a winger.
He should have been given a go at centre when Aitken was playing poorly and that would constitute Mary giving Milne a go.
When Nighty went to FB a winger should have been promoted to replace him and that would be giving them a go.
The whole notion of Milne is about playing centre not playing wing and Mary's selection of him on the wing was not in essence giving him a go, it was clueless and showed exactly were he lacks skill as a coach and why many in this place still question his ability.

The argument that selecting a player to start in first grade is not "in essence" giving them a go is a bit of a strange one. The point was that choices are made regarding who to give a go to. Milne WAS given a go. If someone else was, then they are and he isn't. It's the flip side of your argument elsewhere that bringing in a first grader from elsewhere means dropping one of ours.
Let's say he selected someone else (FFL?)on the wing. Aitken goes down, probably Mann goes to centre and field to 5/8. Next week aitken still injured, FFL comes into wing and Milne goes to centre. Exactly where we ended up.
Last year Mary was clueless. This year it's hard to deny he's found a few clues at least.

 

[Gareth67]

Have a bit of a feeling that this will be an ' on ' weekend for the Tigers , more so now that Leloula (?) is on the scene . They seem to have one off and then one with all guns blazing , just hope that the Dragons do not take them too lightly .

Now that the big name poacher Cleary , has finally finished his shopping , he also will have a point to prove as far as his coaching skills are concerned . Still , we have our team playing with so much enthusiasm at the moment , that it would take a very special effort by the Tigers to win . Dragons by 8

 

[Slippery Morris]

The way Dugan is slamming the club I really don't think his head is in the right place. I would rest him even if he is fit.

Just heard Will Chambers re-signed with Storm for 2.1mil over 3 years. 700k a season. Less than what Duges was offered. Less injury prone, 15 origins to date, GF winner, etc yet Duges thinks he is worth more than him.

If I had a choice of centre out of the 2 I would take Chambers. Just saying.

Saints should have offered Duges a 4 Year deal 900k 1st year then decrease 800k 2nd year and 700k for the 3rd and 4 years when he probably will be centre.

 

[This Year?]

Why are we playing our home game at ANZ ? Makes no sense at all. Regardless of the bullshit reason we'd get a bigger crowd at Kogarah or Wollongong imo so it's just stupid giving away a home game advantage and a home game experience for fans. This bullshit needs to stop.

I'm surprised it wasn't scheduled until heritage round and put it at the SCG. Kogarah would have been awesome. The Tigers have a poor record there.

 

[possm]

OTimer...mary called the right shot.

Many fans said put mann in the centre when aitken got injured.

Other fans say someone else, and others say another player.

Thankfully we have a coach calling the shots.

He is 3rd. Yeaahhhhhh!

We have a dumb and stubborn coach who never learns from his errors. I've not seen one call from Mary that I could say was a good call. He even had to get the leadership group to design a playing style and 'power plan'. God give me strength!

 

[possm]

Do we just lose games in 2017 when we are sitting top 8 to trial a prospective FB for 2018?

Both sides of the argument are fair but that is the reality.. what gives? 2017 or 2018?

Nothing will 'give' if Mann/Field/Dufty are up to the task. What we would have is Dugan at right centre plugging up the defensive holes and smashing the oppositions right edge.

 

[mickeylane]

Have a bit of a feeling that this will be an ' on ' weekend for the Tigers , more so now that Loholue (?) is on the scene . They seem to have one off and then one with all guns blazing , just hope that the Dragons do not take them too lightly .

Now that the big name poacher Cleary , has finally finished his shopping , he also will have a point to prove as far as his coaching skills are concerned . Still , we have our team playing with so much enthusiasm at the moment , that it would take a very special effort by the Tigers to win . Dragons by 8

Tigers will cop 40 trust me !!

 

[saintsarealive1]

Nothing will 'give' if Mann/Field/Dufty are up to the task. What we would have is Dugan at right centre pugging up the defensive holes and smashing the oppositions right edge.

Time to let go.
I am sure people will discuss who was more correct come late Sept. Mary or his critics.

My money is on mary.
Roll on September!

 

[Hills Dragon]

I'd like to see this team -

1. Field/Dufty
2. Macdonald
3. Dugan
4. Lafai
5. Nightingale
6. Mann
7. Widdop
8. Packer
9. McInnes
10. Vaughan
11. Frizell
12. Thompson
13. De Belin

14. Sims
15. Ah Mau
17. Sele
19. Leilua/Field/McCrone

I could handle this team being picked, but we all know McGregor just isn't that creative.

 

[possm]

I could handle this team being picked, but we all know McGregor just isn't that creative.

Could have been our team for 2018, we had the money and Dugan wanted to stay. What a mess.

 

[Old Timer]

The argument that selecting a player to start in first grade is not "in essence" giving them a go is a bit of a strange one. The point was that choices are made regarding who to give a go to. Milne WAS given a go. If someone else was, then they are and he isn't. It's the flip side of your argument elsewhere that bringing in a first grader from elsewhere means dropping one of ours.
Let's say he selected someone else (FFL?)on the wing. Aitken goes down, probably Mann goes to centre and field to 5/8. Next week aitken still injured, FFL comes into wing and Milne goes to centre. Exactly where we ended up.
Last year Mary was clueless. This year it's hard to deny he's found a few clues at least.

My sentiment is always about the right man for the job.
I never consider that a 1st grade winger should be replaced by a guy playing reserve grade centre.
Replace the winger with a winger it's that simple for me.
Therefore replace the centre with a centre
My contention is that if you play a centre as the winger and he goes badly and he gets dropped back to reggies it is entirely possible his progress has been hampered by playing out of position ala what happened to Mann last year.
We brought a centre, played him as FB, dropped him to play wing, brought back as a wing, then played him at 5/8. His progress is then determined as "utility" and is therefore master of no position and liable to be let go if you hold strength in specific positions. In amongst all of that the guy we brought as a centre from a high profile club never plays centre for us who were well below the standard of the club he came from.
IMO Milne does not have the requisite skills to play wing and we do him a great disservice by selecting him there.
He is having enough trouble making the transition from reggies centre to 1st grade centre why complicate it even further asking him to perform at 1st grade standard in a position he never plays?
The skill level for a winger is entirely different to that from a centre and in fact looking at the skill set of the wingers in 1st grade it is truly a specialist position in its own right
At the same time we have young wingers coming through plus the depth player KFFL who we choose to ignore for selection in their preferred position.

 

[getsmarty]

NRL Team: Round 13 v Wests Tigers
Tue 30th May, 04:01PM
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St George Illawarra coach Paul McGregor has named a 22-man squad for the Dragons' Round 13 clash against the Wests Tigers at ANZ Stadium, Olympic Park on Saturday, June 3.

Four players – Josh Dugan, Tyson Frizell, Jai Field and Blake Lawrie – will potentially back up from their respective State of Origin fixtures on Wednesday night, which has allowed McGregor to name 22 players rather than the usual 21.

Tariq Sims has been named in the back row, with Jacob Host listed in the 17, for Frizell who sits in the reserves.

Skipper Gareth Widdop and Dugan may also make their long-awaited NRL returns from knee and cheekbone injuries respectively after also being named in the reserves.

NRL Squad for Round 13 v Wests Tigers:

1. Jason Nightingale
2. Nene Macdonald
3. Taane Milne
4. Tim Lafai
5. Kalifa Faifai Loa
6. Kurt Mann
7. Josh McCrone
8. Russell Packer
9. Cameron McInnes
10. Paul Vaughan
11. Tariq Sims
12. Joel Thompson
13. Jack de Belin
Interchange:
14. Jacob Host
15. Leeson Ah Mau
16. Hame Sele
17. Jai Field
18. Tyrone McCarthy
19. Josh Dugan
20. Tyson Frizell
21. Gareth Widdop
22. Blake Lawrie

Players unavailable:

Euan Aitken (hamstring) – indefinite

Will Matthews (hip) – indefinite

Drew Hutchison (knee) – indefinite

Siliva Havili (pectoral) – indefinite

Kiti Glymin (shoulder) – indefinite

Levi Dodd (knee) – season

http://www.dragons.com.au/news/2017/05/30/nrl_team_round_13_v_.html

 

[getsmarty]

ISP Team: Round 13 v Wests Tigers
Tue 30th May, 04:00PM
A A

Illawarra coach Mat Head has named his team to play in Round 13 of the Intrust Super Premiership against the Wests Tigers.

The game is set to commence at 7:30pm on Friday, June 2 at WIN Stadium, Wollongong.

Illawarra were last start victors over the Newtown Jets, and currently sit at fourth on the Intrust Super Premiership ladder.

ISP Team for Round 13 v Wests Tigers

1. Matthew Dufty
2. Rob Basueru
3. John Tohi
4. Patrick Herbert
5. Izaac Thompson
6. Adam Clune
7. Shaun Nona
8. Josh Kerr
9. Jake Marketo
10. Blake Lawrie
11. Chris Lewis
12. Luciano Leilua
13. Tyrone McCarthy
Interchange:
14. Ryan Fletcher
15. Jay Gallagher
16. Jacob Hind
17. Rhys Kennedy
19. Mose Masoe

http://www.dragons.com.au/news/2017/05/30/isp_team_round_13_v_.html

 

[getsmarty]

NYC Team: Round 13 v Wests Tigers
Tue 30th May, 04:00PM
A A

St George Illawarra Dragons Under-20s coach Wayne Collins has named his mandatory 23-man squad for the team's Round 13 clash against the Wests Tigers at ANZ Stadium, Olympic Park on Saturday, June 3.

The Under-20s will kick-off at 12:40pm and will be the curtain-raiser for the NRL fixture scheduled for 3pm.

The young Dragons were able to pip the Warriors at the post in their last game a fortnight ago, having enjoyed their first bye of the season last weekend.

NYC Squad for Round 13 v Wests Tigers:

1. Steven Marsters
2. Matheson Johns
3. Reuben Garrick
4. Zac Lomax
5. Jason Gillard
6. Tristan Sailor
7. Jackson Willis
8. Stuart Mason
9. Reece Robson
10. TJ Uele
11. Jackson Ford
12. Jayden Morgan
13. Joe Lovodua
Interchange:
14. Matt Sheppard
15. Bailey Dickenson
16. Dylan Morris
17. Tom Angel
18. Trent Peoples
19. Brayden Gallagher
20. Max Bailey
21. Cooper Purcell
22. Dane Francis
23. Elijah Hunt

http://www.dragons.com.au/news/2017/05/30/nyc_team_round_13_v_.html

 

[Gareth67]

Tigers will cop 40 trust me !!

That is what my youg bloke said to me many years ago when he borrowed my pride and joy , the ole FJ Holden . The begger brought it back to me in half a dozen pieces !

 

[Old Timer]

The most concerning thing I can see in any of the sections is big Jake getting into the 2nd grade hooking spot.
That is a worry IMO.

 

[Belta]

"Tigers will cop 40..." I hope you are right, I'll go for half that and say; Dragons by 20 and I hope we are not putting the mocker on them

 

[mickeylane]

That is what my youg bloke said to me many years ago when he borrowed my pride and joy , the ole FJ Holden . The begger brought it back to me in half a dozen pieces !

I'm happy to put a friendly bet on we will score 40+ against a heartless team led by a heartless forward In Woods