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Round 14 V Dogs

Gareth67

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Gareth.
I would say bulldogs lifted as they always do against the dragons.
We didn't play as well as we can we were clunky.
Widdop and hunt and the origin boys only trained together for the captain's run.
I would say sould be be a lot better next week

Fully appreciate what you are saying Sammy , more so when each of your points are just that . However there were some very tired SOO players on the field more so towards the end of the each half . Felt that they should had been replaced with the splinter - magnets that sit on the bench . I realise that the players themselves made quite a few fundamental errors , made one think if they were top graders or from the Holden cup . However , we got the 2 competition points which was what we were after ( needed after our loss to Penrith ) and improvement will follow for our next game against the Sea Eagles .
 

jeffdragon

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Thought we were comfortable at ht.
Then surprised in the second half.
Hunt said he felt fresh early,then origin caught up with him
We made a few errors in the 1st half and did well to hang on
The second dogs try was as a result of Nene rushing off his wing.
Manns hands let him down .
Just get the 2points and move on.
Souths and Penrith won cause the teams they played are rubbish.
Dogs have been close lately.
 

The Damo

Juniors
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I agree Johnno, the top 6 teams will be laughing at us.
Widdop, Hunt and a few others need to pull their million dollar socks up.
We beat the storm by 20, hahahahaha
We beat the roosters by 16, hahahahahaha
We’re 1 and 1 with Souths - and the team we beat by 46 they beat by 2. Hahahahaha
We just beat the team that beat the panthers - slight chuckle at least.
 

hazzbeen

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Nene can score a try but his rushing in provided the opportunity for the Dogs second try and then, he rushed in when Lafai had his centre covered allowing a free run by Montaya. Thank good the Dogs' winger took the wrong option.
Yep this ......
 

Auntie.Gerald

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Yep on one level it feels like last year but on another it’s not so far

We have won 10games and we are no1 onthe table after 14 rounds

13 wins ie 3 more gets us in the top8

I think we can get 4 wins but any more would be above my expectations

We have a very challenging schedule next few weeks with a lot of players missing
 

Coffs dragon

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Because he wanted his best 15 players on the field as for as long as possible. Do you think that Host would have done a better job than Sims or Frizell? I think Mary did the right thing. I would have done the same thing if I was coach. Tell me what you think Mary should have done instead?
He should have had both Host & Lawrie on the bench instead of Nightingale and friggin used them both. Fritz, Vaughan and JDB all played well, but certainly deserved a helping hand in a team effort shared by all 17 players.
 

Frank Facer

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Fully appreciate what you are saying Sammy , more so when each of your points are just that . However there were some very tired SOO players on the field more so towards the end of the each half . Felt that they should had been replaced with the splinter - magnets that sit on the bench . I realise that the players themselves made quite a few fundamental errors , made one think if they were top graders or from the Holden cup . However , we got the 2 competition points which was what we were after ( needed after our loss to Penrith ) and improvement will follow for our next game against the Sea Eagles .
Remember when clubs used to play Wednesday night in the mid week Cup and then the whole team would back up and play again on the weekend?
 

blacksafake

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He should have had both Host & Lawrie on the bench instead of Nightingale and friggin used them both. Fritz, Vaughan and JDB all played well, but certainly deserved a helping hand in a team effort shared by all 17 players.
Bingo CD
If he’s thinking of using nighty off the bench it would be a waste of interchange, would be better to go with Host,Lawrie or Sele
 

hewi

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We won and got two points , so that’s a huge plus. I feel that we are in the low point hopefully of our season with origin , fatigue and injuries all playing there part in some lacklustre performances. I feel that playing the full 80 minutes at the moment is getting very difficult. Two small lapses the Dogs get two tries. Hopefully we will climb out of this trough and peak for the finals.
 

getsmarty

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Dufty's try saving tackle

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NRL 2018: St George Illawarra become first team to cop new deliberate pass penalty
  • 2 hours ago
  • by John Dean
  • Source: FOX SPORTS


ST GEORGE Illawarra have become the first NRL team to be penalised for deliberately passing a ball into a defender in the ruck.

But did the referees get it right in this instance?

In May, the NRL announced a crackdown on dummy halves passing into opposition players around the ruck after Anthony Milford and Will Smith milked penalties in Round 11.

In the Dragons’ 18-16 win over Canterbury on Monday, hooker Cameron McInnes was pinged after a pass he threw from dummy half hit Bulldogs forward Josh Jackson who was kneeling next to the ruck on the open side.

Referee Matt Cecchin blew the whistle and awarded a penalty to the Bulldogs.


“Cameron McInnes was trying to pass the ball in that direction,” Fox League commentator Greg Alexander said.

“I think they got it wrong. I don’t mind the idea of the referees penalising someone who is standing behind the ruck and the dummy half just throws it into him — that’s not the angle or who is was trying to find.

“I think he picked his wrong mark, Matt Cecchin.

“I wouldn’t have given a penalty there.

“ … Ben Hunt was standing there, he was waiting to kick the ball, and (Jackson) was directly in line with Hunt.

“Cameron McInnes was going to pass it there anyway.

“That was Jackon’s fault that he was in the road.

“It was a toughie on the Dragons and the Dogs nearly scored off the back of it.”

Dufty’s try saving tackle

Co-commentator Brett Finch was bewildered with the ball.

The former NRL playmaker believed it simply should’ve been play on.

“I don’t under why we’re putting pressure on the referees by creating new rules and new ways for penalties,” Finch said.

“It’s like if you’re running the footy and you’re trying to milk a penalty in the play-the-ball, the ref just says get up and play it so you lose that advantage by wasting a few seconds on the ground.

“If you deliberately do it, rule play on and then you’ll cop the effects of that.

“ … I don’t think we need to make a rule where the refs have to determine has he passed it deliberately or not, it’s just play on.”

Dragons coach Paul McGregor was asked about the call post-game and delivered a blunt reply.

“Well if you’re kneeling or standing in the ruck and the ball hits you on the way to a person who needs to kick the ball, it’s a penalty to us,” he said.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...y/news-story/791da63dec73bbce8f28f0a65d8f241e
 

giboz71

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Why do we keep diverting the issue at hand?

I am proud as punch to be on top of the ladder but today we played a team that offered nothing. Zero.

That's the worst Dogs side I have seen fielded in years. We started on fire and looked the goods.

We won by the skin of our arse. I want to see more. If we are real contenders, we need to put a big score on second rate sides like the Dogs.

The Dogs are woeful, but that’s the best game they have played in a long time.

Klemmer was a monster, Jackson was not a plodder like usual and Morris and Mbye were both great.

They have lost plenty of games this year but no one has put a score on them. And they do always lift against us, especially at ANZ where we rarely win.

Just glad to get the 2 points and get the hell out of there.
 

getsmarty

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NRL 2018: Dragons coach Paul McGregor explains why he benched Jason Nightingale
  • an hour ago
  • by John Dean
  • Source: FOX SPORTS


ST GEORGE Illawarra coach Paul McGregor has explained the reasoning behind the shock benching of club stalwart Jason Nightingale against Canterbury on Monday.

After maintaining the same starting 13 through their opening 12 games of the season, the Dragons revealed one hour before kick-off that Nightingale had been benched in favour of utility Kurt Mann.

It was the first time Nightingale, who is off-contract, had come off the bench since 2009 when Wayne Bennett was in his first year as coach.

Mann had a mixed game making 141 metres to go with two errors, one of which led to a try to Bulldogs winger Brett Morris.

Nightingale was interchanged for prop James Graham in 73rd minute.

Dragons cop new penalty

“We’ve been working on a part of Jason’s game for a number weeks,” McGregor said.

“We’d been talking player to coach quite often.

“We thought Kurt Mann deserved an opportunity to start and that’s how it worked out.”


https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...e/news-story/2b95c33e1ecd121e5d93c2ee320b60c8
 

getsmarty

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Tariq Sims has pressed his Origin claims with his massive performance lifting the Dragons to top spot on the ladder
  • an hour ago
  • by Joe McDonough
  • Source: FOX SPORTS


THE Dragons have reclaimed top spot on the ladder with a nervy 18-16 win over the Bulldogs this afternoon.

And while their four rep stars backed up brilliantly, it was a fringe Origin player that really stood up in the Red V – Tariq Sims.

Selected for the Blues extended squad, Sims was overlooked for a bench spot, and while it’ll be difficult to crack into the side that won so well in Game One, he couldn’t have done any more today to remind Brad Fittler of his worth.

The left-edge backrower was a constant threat in attack, and he scored the second try of the match running a good line off Gareth Widdop’s hip.

But as Fox Sports commentator Braith Anasta noted at half-time, it’s his aggressive defence that really lifts his teammates.

“He’s a great player… Nine runs 94 metres, three tackle busts. But it’s his defence, look at him putting shots on Klemmer,” Anasta said.

“He’s an enforcer for the Dragons, he turns up every week, he’s been one of their best in 2018, and he comes up with a try also. He’s had an enormous first half for the Dragons.”

He finished with 148 metres from 15 runs, 5 tackle busts, and 27 tackles.

As mentioned the Origin quartet showed the character Paul McGregor was looking for.

Both Vaughan and Frizell ran for over 140 metres (Vaughan amassed 168 from 14 carries) and made 30 tackles, and de Belin was everywhere in defence and made 100 metres with the ball.

Bent Hunt was strong in his 200th game. He organised the Dragons attack alongside Gareth Widdop and set up the first try to Euan Aitken.

Dragons finally get the win

Josh Jackson may have been one of the incumbent Blues overlooked for this year’s Origin series but like Sims he made a statement today.

His Bulldogs were blown off the park early but rallied to find some momentum of their own in the second half. And Jackson was instrumental in that charge.

He set up Will Hopoate’s try with a grubber his halves would’ve been proud of, and made several strong charges to lift his team.

The Dragons held on to hand the Bulldogs their sixth loss by eight or less points in their last seven games. They also ended a string of six straight losses to the Bulldogs.

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Cameron McInnes asked serious questions of the Bulldogs defence in the first two minutes. The livewire hooker put on a big right foot step to beat Michael Lichaa and pierce through. He then produced another sharp right foot step to beat Moses Mbye, before offloading to Paul Vaughan who was caught just short of the line.

Two penalties later they broke the deadlock through Euan Aitken.

The Dragons’ rep quartet was asked by coach Paul McGregor to lead by example today and they immediately answered the call.

Paul Vaughan moved the ball wide to Jack de Belin, who found Ben Hunt even wider. The Maroons halfback then made it look all too easy, straightening and hitting his centre short, who strolled in untouched.

Dufty’s try saving tackle

Moses Mbye six minutes in had a kick for touch to put his side on the attack but he miscued it badly, gifting the Dragons the ball back.

It proved to be a costly mistake with the Dragons working their way downfield before a short ball this time from Gareth Widdop to Tariq Sims extended the Dragons’ lead.

The left-edge backrower was isolated with Will Hopoate close to the line and was too strong despite a gallant attempt from the Bulldogs centre to hold him up.

Kurt Mann, who was a late replacement for Jason Nightingale on the right wing, did brilliantly to gather in a grubber and make it back into the field of play. But an error from Aitken allowed the Dogs another attacking set and they made no mistake.

Adam Elliott was thrown the ball in the middle of the park with nothing on, he threw a half dummy and just powered through the attempted tackles of Frizell and Hunt to close the deficit to just two points.

Widdop had a golden opporutnity to extend the Dragons lead on the cusp of half-time. He ran onto a well-weighted grubber from his halves partner but inches from the line he was pulled down in a desperate lunging try-saver from Jeremy Marshall-King.

It didn’t matter because from their next attacking set, a slick backline movement finished with Nene MacDonald taking the aerial route to score in the corner after a quality ball under pressure from Matt Dufty.

MacDonald looked like he was going to bag a quick double when Dufty released him out wide again. But the Bulldogs did well to scramble and shut down the play.

The Bulldogs needed to score first in the second half to have any chance, and a break from the veteran speedster Brett Morris set it up.

With the Dragons defence at sixes and sevens, the Dogs shovelled it out wide to the right. Dave Klemmer, who ran for almost 100 metres in the first half alone after coming on at the 15th minute, passed to Josh Jackson who showed great touch to toe ahead for try-scorer Hopoate.

The Josh Jackson and Brett Morris show continued minutes later. Jackson made a great bust up the middle to give his side momentum, and then his fellow former Blue scored when a sweet Matt Frawley cross-field kick was fumbled by Mann and dropped in his path in goal.

At 16-14 to the Bulldogs it was anyone’s game.

De Belin then stepped up to hit Jackson in a crunching tackle that forced a mistake deep in Bulldogs territory.

Awarded a penalty, Widdop didn’t hesitate to level the scores with just a quarter of the match remaining.

In what could have been a pivotal moment in the match, McInnes was penalised for passing into Jackson who was sitting in the ruck. Replays showed he wasn’t even looking at Jackson and only hit the outside of his arm trying to go behind him.

‘McInnes did it on purpose’

Brett Finch told Fox Sports it should’ve just been play on as the ball bounced back to a Dragons player anyway. Nonetheless, the Bulldogs couldn’t capitalise.

Strong runs from Sims and Frizell saw the Dragons march into the attacking zone. On last tackle, James Graham was hit late by Aaron Woods after passing to Hunt.

As a result the Dragons reclaimed the lead through a Widdop penalty goal.

The Dogs refused to yield but they just couldn’t crack the resolute defence that the Dragons.

Their best chance late came when Marcelo Montoya charged down the sideline and tried to beat Dufty on the outside but the diminutive custodian made an all or nothing tackle to take him into touch.

Jackson produced another pinpoint grubber in the last minute to force a drop out and give the Bulldogs one last attacking set. They forced a mistake on last tackle with a banana kick and had one play from the scrum to break Dragons hearts.

But a last gasp kick towards Morris was taken well by Mann to bring a see-sawing affair to a close.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...g/news-story/92b69bf16188672558ca829b70407cb2
 

Frank Facer

First Grade
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Bingo CD
If he’s thinking of using nighty off the bench it would be a waste of interchange, would be better to go with Host,Lawrie or Sele
having Nightingale on the bench gives Mary, means that if a back gets injured, he can bring Nighty on and move Mann if needed to cover the injured back. If Mary goes in with 4 forwards on the bench, and a back gets injured, then we have to have a forward playing in the backs. It is probably a good idea to have a back on the bench, even if they don't get on the field.
 

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