Round 14: vs Dogs 🐕 Monday 13th June TEAM LIST

[I'm a loser baby...]

My opinion, now keep in mind my track record is better then anyone on this forum.

What we have is a dedicated, robotic half. He does however have good vision, but poor execution. His lag time is far to slow for NRL and he lacks agility.
His defense is solid and will improve due to size. His kick games average but possible to improve . Well not possible naturally it will improve. Will he be an NRL regular? Hard to tell. He certainly won't be electric but he could be a solid controlling half who has great defense and stick to a game plan. I dont think we will know untill 2024/ 2025 where he will end up. Highly doubt he'd ever reach origin status. Possible he becomes a Chad Townsend level however which is still very good.

He's probably only going to get slower. And he needs to improve markedly in that department but I don't see it happening. Which is probably why he isn't in the club's plans.

 

[Noise]

He's probably only going to get slower. And he needs to improve markedly in that department but I don't see it happening. Which is probably why he isn't in the club's plans.

Agree that he will likely get slower. How do you know he isn't in the clubs plans?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Agree that he will likely get slower. How do you know he isn't in the clubs plans?

Only going off the report that he was offered to another club and I think @emjaycee hinted at it at least.

 

[Noise]

Only going off the report that he was offered to another club and I think @emjaycee hinted at it at least.

He's signed for 2023 so at this stage he is still in our plans for the next 18 months.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

He's signed for 2023 so at this stage he is still in our plans for the next 18 months.

On the books at least. It seems a bit odd that a guy who was brought into the top 30 in an emergency would be given a further two years after that.

 

[yy_cheng]

He's 188cm though, and not explosive. How many halves that height make it? And I don't see him transitioning to the forwards as he isn't much of an athlete.

He could be devastating bombing to himself

 

[IFR33K]

My opinion, now keep in mind my track record is better then anyone on this forum.

What we have is a dedicated, robotic half. He does however have good vision, but poor execution. His lag time is far to slow for NRL and he lacks agility.
His defense is solid and will improve due to size. His kick games average but possible to improve . Well not possible naturally it will improve. Will he be an NRL regular? Hard to tell. He certainly won't be electric but he could be a solid controlling half who has great defense and stick to a game plan. I dont think we will know untill 2024/ 2025 where he will end up. Highly doubt he'd ever reach origin status. Possible he becomes a Chad Townsend level however which is still very good.

not sure what you’ve seen. One average player not sure he’ll have a FG career

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Seems to be. Don't you agree?

I can't see how. There are a number of reasons why halves generally aren't that tall, and one of them could be that taller kids usually end up in other positions.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I can't see how. There are a number of reasons why halves generally aren't that tall, and one of them could be that taller kids usually end up in other positions.

I don't think it's just footy where coordination has an inverse relationship with height.

 

[the phantom menace]

He's 188cm though, and not explosive. How many halves that height make it? And I don't see him transitioning to the forwards as he isn't much of an athlete.

Eventualy centre perhaps, in terms of a long-term FG career?

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Eventualy centre perhaps, in terms of a long-term FG career?

He doesn't move like a centre. If he has an NRL career it's at 7 and he prays like hell he stops growing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't think it's just footy where coordination has an inverse relationship with height.

Well 188cm isn't very tall by NRL standards. Nicho Hynes is as tall as him, while Burton and Wighton are both taller. If anything Arthur's problem is that he is too lean. He needs to get stronger. At almost 20 years of age he is unlikely to get taller, but he needs more muscle to help his running game. Hynes is 8kg heaver while Burton and Wighton are both 14kg heavier (but only 2cm taller).

 

[hineyrulz]

I can't see how. There are a number of reasons why halves generally aren't that tall, and one of them could be that taller kids usually end up in other positions.

Well he doesn’t have too, the coach is his dad.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Well 188cm isn't very tall by NRL standards. Nicho Hynes is as tall as him, while Burton and Wighton are both taller. If anything Arthur's problem is that he is too lean. He needs to get stronger. At almost 20 years of age he is unlikely to get taller, but he needs more muscle to help his running game. Hynes is 8kg heaver while Burton and Wighton are both 14kg heavier (but only 2cm taller).

All three of those guys are in a different class when it comes to movement.

 

[hineyrulz]

All three of those guys are in a different class when it comes to movement.

Maybe he is talking about bowel movements???

 

[TheRam]

How many other clubs have a better backup halfback in reserve grade?

Penrith have at least one.

 

[TheRam]

I would say we have a fair bit more $$$s committed to our two first choice halves (now and planned for the near future) than most of those teams with a decent backup .... how much cash can you commit to those 2 positions? .... not saying im a fan of jake, but he would be on pitance and it probably enables us to throw more at moses and drown

Again Penrith have the two SOO halves and still have a 3rd better one then we do.

Sean O'Sullivan

 

[Gary Gutful]

Than Ma'am?? Really???? Or Madden??? They have actually shown something in first grade. Unlike Jakey who's season highlight was getting appendicitis while sitting on a bench.

Yes Ma’am.

 

[Gary Gutful]

It goes back way longer than that.

I’m more confident in the past 3 years than I have been for a long time.

 

[TheRam]

They are huge Jake fans no denying that. I wasnt there so I can't comment. Jakes last NSW Cup game that I saw was the best Ive seen from him apart from one massive error that led to opposition points. Hes learning and having Rankin at 1 and mostly out of his way will prove his worth. Id like to see him do more however. He leaves heaps to young Gaznier who dosent lose much by comparison. That said Id love to see Perham at 6. Sam L is on the bench this week. They should find a spot for him.

That's it in a nutshell. He is still learning and needs to keep learning before he is an NRL player, which at the moment is way to fast for him.