Round 14: vs Dogs 🐕 Monday 13th June TEAM LIST

[Poupou Escobar]

Yeah when they had a super dooper squad hey?? FFS!!

Maybe coaching isn’t the silver bullet after all?

 

[hineyrulz]

Maybe coaching isn’t the silver bullet after all?

Maybe it took him a year to get rid of the shit hey?? Or put his stamp on the side??

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

But in the same class when it comes to height, which was your criticism of him.

Those players are runners though. They make up for any lack of coordination with athleticism. I don't think Arthur will be able to do that.

 

[TheRam]

He must know that because of all his experience at other clubs ffs. This is just Smith still trying to justify why they deserved to win those illegal premierships. Stop amplifying that merkin’s comments. The top teams have better players than the weaker teams, end of story. If that wasn’t the case they wouldn’t be looking for ways to pay merkins outside the cap. f**king “train harder than everyone else”. If it’s that simple then train harder with a squad as weak as everyone else ffs and see how many grand finals you make, f**kwit.

You miss the point as usual mate.

Yes the top teams still have better players and if two very well trained teams, one with elite players and the other with lesser quality players, played to their full potential, then sure the elite calibre team should almost always win.

But the point that Smith was making was that if the lesser teams trained much harder and to the level of the elite teams, then all those errors and mistakes that they make under fatigue in the non talent parts of the game would all but disappear and be of the standard of the better teams.

That then would mean dwindling energy levels and fadeouts would be at a minimum and the high energy levels needed to compete with for the entire game by the lesser/average teams could be sustained right to the end of the game, just like the top teams. Which would mean that we would see a lot less blowouts by the top teams putting the bunsen burner onto the lesser teams and waiting for the fatigue and errors to go their way and then they can take full advantage and take the game out.

If both teams could go set to set till the end then it would truly take the star players to make the difference to break the game and win it for them. So the best teams would always need to be switched on or the lesser team could easily jump to a commanding lead and then hold on and not fatigue or make errors and actually win games that now they have Buckley's of winning. We have seen many great leads by the lesser teams evaporate due to this fatigue that then manifests itself as errors, self doubt, panic and lack of confidence.

Look at the Cowboys this season ffs. Almost the same team as last season, but Todd Payten flogged them within an inch of their lives and put them through endless defensive drills to the point of beyond game conditions exhaustion and failure. He is famous for the quote that he wanted his players to be 'comfortable in feeling uncomfortable'. That now is evident in their game. They can absorb physically and mentally anything a team can throw at them. The only way a team can beat them now is through matching them and then some extra brilliance at the back of it. Remember most pundits had this team running with the spooners this season. But that extra fitness and endless repetition drills has transformed them into contenders.

Also how many times have we seen and heard the quote 'a champion team beat a team of champions'? This then would totally be applicable if the slacker teams picked up their game and train like the best teams. But as it stands there are to many Gen Z lazy slugs that need a rocket up them in the NRL. But then the tears and bitching would follow which is almost as bad as all your excuses. Are you sure you aren't a Gen Z'er pou? Cos you sure sound like one.

 

[TheRam]

Yep, you only have to look at the Cowboys, from all reports Payten flogged them all off season and when he was done he flogged them some more. Brutal was the wording, you only have to look at them in the backend of games when they barely give up a point.

Coaches make no difference though……..

It's so bleeding obvious I can't believe we have to point it out, let alone convince some dead sh*t merkin in the first place.

I wish we could get Dean Young to Parra. He is their defensive coach, but then again if we still had BA here he would tell the boys, 'Yeah defense is good and we have no issues there, as long as we keep chasing the collision. So Dean no need to stress the boys out to much mate we need them fresh for the collision'.

 

[Gary Gutful]

So Smith’s a cheating muppet, unless he says something I agree with and then he’s a champion.

How would he even know about the training that clubs other Melbourne do? It wouldn’t be through first hand experience.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I’m more confident in the past 3 years than I have been for a long time.

It must be the spiffy new hair.

 

[TheRam]

Maybe he should’ve flogged them the previous year when they finished 15th ffs

Since Manah has retired he has let slip a few times in his interview show and on TV that at Parra we had average and lower then required off seasons training protocols that contributed to less then stellar performances during the following seasons. Again it showed and some of us here kept pointing it out, but others like you just made and keep making excused for our clubs mediocrity at so many levels that should be easy fixes and yet we find almost impossible to overcome.

To our credit we have tried and have addressed many failings, but we were so poor to start with and there is still a ways to go. I think fitness and repetitive, both in defense and attack, is one area that we could do much better in.

 

[TheRam]

These players who don’t train as hard aren’t as good and therefore would be more likely to be at weaker clubs. It’s not about coaching, it’s about player quality and value. The top clubs have more of it while the weaker clubs have less.

If all the clubs did it, they these lazier players would have to roll their sleaves up or be weeded out of the game. There would be no room for them. They would be seen as a liability and let go for players that can do the necessary work that is needed to compete for an entire NRL game under fatigue. Talent can only get you so far.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Since Manah has retired he has let slip a few times in his interview show and on TV that at Parra we had average and lower then required off seasons training protocols that contributed to less then stellar performances during the following seasons. Again it showed and some of us here kept pointing it out, but others like you just made and keep making excused for our clubs mediocrity at so many levels that should be easy fixes and yet we find almost impossible to overcome.

To our credit we have tried and have addressed many failings, but we were so poor to start with and there is still a ways to go. I think fitness and repetitive, both in defense and attack, is one area that we could do much better in.

*AFL Merkin. Who did hire that bloke? It was before MON Im sure. He must have interviewed well.
*Running Mechanics.

 

[hineyrulz]

Cronk says all the time that Melbourne and the Roosters train harder than the rest, I’m not sure how he knows it but the proof is in the pudding.

I read recently that Jordan in an interview said he trained harder than he played. And he was never nervous because he knew he had put in the work and when it was time for a game he knew it wouldn’t be as tough as what a game was going to be.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Cronk says all the time that Melbourne and the Roosters train harder than the rest, I’m not sure how he knows it but the proof is in the pudding.

I read recently that Jordan in an interview said he trained harder than he played. And he was never nervous because he knew he had put in the work and when it was time for a game he knew it wouldn’t be as tough as what a game was going to be.

Are you talking about Michael Jordan? The supremely gifted and talented Michael Jordan? The one that famously drank 10 beers and played 36 holes of golf before a game and bet the guy he lost to that he would score 40 points that night?

According to Jeremy Roenick, Michael Jordan once dropped 52 after slamming 10 beers and playing 36 holes

This Jeremy Roenick story about golfing with Michael Jordan—and more importantly, about what MJ did after—is the stuff of legend.

www.golfdigest.com

 

[hineyrulz]

Are you talking about Michael Jordan? The supremely gifted and talented Michael Jordan? The one that famously drank 10 beers and played 36 holes of golf before a game and bet the guy he lost to that he would score 40 points that night?

According to Jeremy Roenick, Michael Jordan once dropped 52 after slamming 10 beers and playing 36 holes

This Jeremy Roenick story about golfing with Michael Jordan—and more importantly, about what MJ did after—is the stuff of legend.

www.golfdigest.com

Yeah but he was bald FFS!!

 

[Eelementary]

Are you talking about Michael Jordan? The supremely gifted and talented Michael Jordan? The one that famously drank 10 beers and played 36 holes of golf before a game and bet the guy he lost to that he would score 40 points that night?

According to Jeremy Roenick, Michael Jordan once dropped 52 after slamming 10 beers and playing 36 holes

This Jeremy Roenick story about golfing with Michael Jordan—and more importantly, about what MJ did after—is the stuff of legend.

www.golfdigest.com

He's no Kareem.

 

[yy_cheng]

Cronk says all the time that Melbourne and the Roosters train harder than the rest, I’m not sure how he knows it but the proof is in the pudding.

I read recently that Jordan in an interview said he trained harder than he played. And he was never nervous because he knew he had put in the work and when it was time for a game he knew it wouldn’t be as tough as what a game was going to be.

Panfers must train the hardest.

The things they do and maintain for the whole game has to come from that

 

[Gazzamatta]

Panfers must train the hardest.

The things they do and maintain for the whole game has to come from that

Cows and Broncs are heading in the right direction. Maybe we need the AFL Merkin back?

 

[Twizzle]

our defence has got worse since Kidwell left

 

[Noise]

In terms of people asking 'how would Smith and Cronk know if other teams didn't train as hard?' I reckon they would have some idea. Plenty of players from other clubs would have gone to the Storm and Roosters and commented on how their previous teams trained compared to the Storm / Roosters.

 

[hindy111]

our defence has got worse since Kidwell left

I feel like Mahoney and Junior in the middle make our defense weak. Lane is also sloppy

 

[Gazzamatta]

In terms of people asking 'how would Smith and Cronk know if other teams didn't train as hard?' I reckon they would have some idea. Plenty of players from other clubs would have gone to the Storm and Roosters and commented on how their previous teams trained compared to the Storm / Roosters.

Also through State and Internationals.