Round 14: vs Dogs 🐕 Monday 13th June TEAM LIST

[strider]

Again Penrith have the two SOO halves and still have a 3rd better one then we do.

Sean O'Sullivan

Yep he is possibly best backup half in the nrl .... and off to the dolphins next year - cos penrith cant keep him on a cheap salary

 

[TheRam]

Likewise. I'm unsure we will steam roll them.....

We need to win by 14 to get back at 4th place, but I wouldn't be all that surprised, but extremely disappointed if we lose all together.

We are the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hide team of the comp and have been for so long now.

On another note.

Just heard Cameron Smith, Brandy and I think Johns(not sure caught it on the run), discussing and comparing teams that were mentally strong on the radio(SEN 1170) just now and Smith mentioned the obvious suspects like Penrith and the Storm and now even the Broncos get a look in. Parra though are never mentioned in those terms ever other then to point out that we need to find that side of our game. Says it all really.

Also curious thing that Smith also mentioned that about half the teams in the NRL don't train as hard as the top teams and that is why they have so many fades during games. He sees it in the way they play and respond to things when under pressure and fatigue. It is bleeding obvious and easy to fix because it is the non-talent side of the game. Something I have been harping on about forever, but anyway, lets move on shall we. They also said that if these less fit teams were to train like the better trained teams, that the coach would have a rebellion on his hands by all the whinging players that don't like it and don't have that type of fortitude and don't like feeling that uncomfortable.

Brandy was stunned that players can have such a negative influence on the coaching practices and kept saying that it should be an easy fix, but it somehow isn't.

So much for Pou's constant rhetoric that all teams train just as hard as the next team and that they are all more or less equal now a days. It is obvious that they are not if you get your head out of the stats world and only use them for a guide and actually watch the game and trust what you see.

Also pays to have common sense though, so I guess that is why Pou has to rely so much on stats instead.

 

[TheRam]

Yep he is possibly best backup half in the nrl .... and off to the dolphins next year - cos penrith cant keep him on a cheap salary

But they still have him in their ranks now which is what matters to them. The reason the Dolphins have signed him is because they desperately need a play maker or two and he is probably the pick of the lower grades ones that are NRL ready.

Point though is there are quite a few better lower grade halves that at this very point in time are better options then Jake.

Which is what the question was about. We went into season 2022 with a very weak backup half, who is under prepared or ready for NRL at this point, to cover our NRL halves if the unspeakable happens.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Point though is there are quite a few better lower grade halves that at this very point in time are better options then Jake.

Can you name them?

 

[hineyrulz]

Yes Ma’am.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

All three of those guys are in a different class when it comes to movement.

But in the same class when it comes to height, which was your criticism of him.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yep he is possibly best backup half in the nrl .... and off to the dolphins next year - cos penrith cant keep him on a cheap salary

That’s why he’s not the perfect backup half.

 

[hineyrulz]

That’s why he’s not the perfect backup half.

So the perfect back up half is shit that nobody wants??? Gotcha!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Also curious thing that Smith also mentioned that about half the teams in the NRL don't train as hard as the top teams and that is why they have so many fades during games.

He must know that because of all his experience at other clubs ffs. This is just Smith still trying to justify why they deserved to win those illegal premierships. Stop amplifying that merkin’s comments. The top teams have better players than the weaker teams, end of story. If that wasn’t the case they wouldn’t be looking for ways to pay merkins outside the cap. f**king “train harder than everyone else”. If it’s that simple then train harder with a squad as weak as everyone else ffs and see how many grand finals you make, f**kwit.

 

[hineyrulz]

We need to win by 14 to get back at 4th place, but I wouldn't be all that surprised, but extremely disappointed if we lose all together.

We are the Dr Jekyll and Mr Hide team of the comp and have been for so long now.

On another note.

Just heard Cameron Smith, Brandy and I think Johns(not sure caught it on the run), discussing and comparing teams that were mentally strong on the radio(SEN 1170) just now and Smith mentioned the obvious suspects like Penrith and the Storm and now even the Broncos get a look in. Parra though are never mentioned in those terms ever other then to point out that we need to find that side of our game. Says it all really.

Also curious thing that Smith also mentioned that about half the teams in the NRL don't train as hard as the top teams and that is why they have so many fades during games. He sees it in the way they play and respond to things when under pressure and fatigue. It is bleeding obvious and easy to fix because it is the non-talent side of the game. Something I have been harping on about forever, but anyway, lets move on shall we. They also said that if these less fit teams were to train like the better trained teams, that the coach would have a rebellion on his hands by all the whinging players that don't like it and don't have that type of fortitude and don't like feeling that uncomfortable.

Brandy was stunned that players can have such a negative influence on the coaching practices and kept saying that it should be an easy fix, but it somehow isn't.

So much for Pou's constant rhetoric that all teams train just as hard as the next team and that they are all more or less equal now a days. It is obvious that they are not if you get your head out of the stats world and only use them for a guide and actually watch the game and trust what you see.

Also pays to have common sense though, so I guess that is why Pou has to rely so much on stats instead.

Yep, you only have to look at the Cowboys, from all reports Payten flogged them all off season and when he was done he flogged them some more. Brutal was the wording, you only have to look at them in the backend of games when they barely give up a point.

Coaches make no difference though……..

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So the perfect back up half is shit that nobody wants??? Gotcha!

A 19 year old carving up in reserve grade would be in demand at most clubs.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Yep, you only have to look at the Cowboys, from all reports Payten flogged them all off season and when he was done he flogged them some more. Brutal was the wording, you only have to look at them in the backend of games when they barely give up a point.

Coaches make no difference though……..

Maybe he should’ve flogged them the previous year when they finished 15th ffs

 

[Eelementary]

Seven years ago, people criticised Drew Hutchison for being crap...now he's a better player than Arthur.

Hutchison is 27, and Arthur is 19...

 

[Poupou Escobar]

They also said that if these less fit teams were to train like the better trained teams, that the coach would have a rebellion on his hands by all the whinging players that don't like it and don't have that type of fortitude and don't like feeling that uncomfortable.

These players who don’t train as hard aren’t as good and therefore would be more likely to be at weaker clubs. It’s not about coaching, it’s about player quality and value. The top clubs have more of it while the weaker clubs have less.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yep, you only have to look at the Cowboys, from all reports Payten flogged them all off season and when he was done he flogged them some more. Brutal was the wording, you only have to look at them in the backend of games when they barely give up a point.

Coaches make no difference though……..

Titans firing under Hollbrook as well.

 

[TheRam]

Can you name them?

Go back and read mate, most have been named. Don't waste my time. I charge $2K an hour. I don't think you can afford me.

Peasant!

 

[King-Gutho94]

Father/Son combinations generally struggle in professional sport.

Unless the coaches son is a superstar like Nathan cleary and he was already established when Ivan returned to Penrith it's so hard to pull off.

Especially when the son plays in such a important position in the team.

For Martin and John Lang it was easier as Martin was a no nonsense front rower who just did his job every week. It wasn't a spine position and less expectation to perform.

There are too many external pressures as we have seen already.

And perception weather it's fair or not is that JA has been giving a rails run into the first grade team through association with his father.

I was at a Ron Massey cup game yesterday talking to a few people involved with Junior Rugby League in Parramatta. One of them mentioned to me how the 4 players in the BA coached junior team at Rouse Hill Rhinos (Penisini,Russell, J Arthur, Loizou) have all been put into the FG system while no one else in that age group coming through the Parramatta JRL area has got a proper look in atm.

Penisini is the only proven First grader in that group of 4 at this stage. Hopefully the other three come along as well.

But the vibe was there is a bit of stench of favourtism and frustration from those in the District that BA weilds too much influence on Junior Rep teams and the club is looking at one place.

 

[hineyrulz]

Maybe he should’ve flogged them the previous year when they finished 15th ffs

Yeah when they had a super dooper squad hey?? FFS!!

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Go back and read mate, most have been named. Don't waste my time. I charge $2K an hour. I don't think you can afford me.

Peasant!

Just as I thought, you know less than nothing about the game and to make yourself think you're knowledgeable you write these long winded paragraphs that say nothing and go nowhere.

Go back to arguing about race quotas within teams, that's all you're good for.

 

[hineyrulz]

A 19 year old carving up in reserve grade would be in demand at most clubs.

Hasn’t he already been offered up at another clubs???

Titans firing under Hollbrook as well.

He’s already losing his hair, he’s a bust.