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Round 5 Vs Titans

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Tbh thought momentum changed when we took Katoa off. Lost our shape & structure.

To Ivan’s credit he tried to right his wrong by bringing Katoa back quickly but it was too late.

One thing I liked about Hook is that he didn’t sub for the sake of subbing which I think happened last night at Hooker. The players were fit enough to handle it too.

Ideally you need a hooker that can play 80 mins, allows for four forwards on the bench.

Luia isn’t a hooker, him being on the bench is just a wasted spot. Better for someone like Cartwright who can play in the centres or backrow.
 

Panfa

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If maloney misses a tackle.from dummy half that doesn't guarantee a try we have a fullback and wingers who can cover.But when he misses one from 5/8 its try time the guy is slowing up and holding luai back besides ivan will not de value his own son by moving him to halfback.It worked with wallace it will work with jimmy.
 

Panfa

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Lets hope ivan will be watching reserve grade tomorrow hopefully a few boys have a big game malakai watene zelezniak kaide ellis jed Cartwright and co.
 

Das Hassler

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If maloney misses a tackle.from dummy half that doesn't guarantee a try we have a fullback and wingers who can cover.But when he misses one from 5/8 its try time the guy is slowing up and holding luai back besides ivan will not de value his own son by moving him to halfback.It worked with wallace it will work with jimmy.


Wouldn't be so much about him missing tackles in the middle as having every opposition coach driving dump trucks over him one after the other....he wouldn't last a couple of games before he'd be gone longterm.
 

franklin2323

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Our brand of football is near unwatchable. I thought last year was bad to watch...this is much worse.

We haven't been a good team for years. Hook just got most players to atleast hold their own until the individuals took over
 

franklin2323

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Jimmy missed 13 tackles on his own. To go with his 3 errors and a penalty.

I thought JFH was by far our best last night. Ran hard. Hit hard. Nice passes developing in his game. Scored a good try. Although he sadly missed 8 tackles aswell.

RCG, Sele and Luai our only guys to make 90%+ of their tackles. Luai played like 2 minutes and RCG kept fresh by doing nothing whennwe had the ball.

Maloney did kick almost 400m. Score and get a drop out.
 

franklin2323

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You're right.

We can offset losing rep players like Peachey, Merrin, CHN, etc..by simply having a few extra games thrown onto the tally of fringe first graders.

Who from our top 17 was missing last night?

Depth is stuffed but the top 13 is horrible atm
 

martielang

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I think Hetherington is in our top 17, definitely needs to kick on though.

We have gone ‘all in’ on 5 or 6 players & atm only Kikau is consistently delivering. Cleary is improving, Blake, RCG, Maloney are offering very little.

I’m worried about Blake tbh, he’s looking very one dimensional. Right foot step.
 

Kilkenny

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I think Hetherington is in our top 17, definitely needs to kick on though.

We have gone ‘all in’ on 5 or 6 players & atm only Kikau is consistently delivering. Cleary is improving, Blake, RCG, Maloney are offering very little.

I’m worried about Blake tbh, he’s looking very one dimensional. Right foot step.

In a better performing side Blake would be talked about as a potential origin player.

I’m saying our poor form is all about the engine room and frankly our highest paid player in that department is a no show.
 

Panfa

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If yeo is out next week sele needs to start at lock fisher to 2nd row.Sharks have lost 2 in a row now they wont wanna make it 3 and they always lift against us theres some hatred there.Would be nice to pump them at home.
 

mxlegend99

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Sharks are arguably in worse form then us. Been belted by Eels snd Roostersthepast 2 weeks. They're a bogey side for us though.

Really any team with a few ex players seems to be fired up to beat us. Just lucky Moyza is out... he destroyed us in the finals.
 

franklin2323

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Sharks are arguably in worse form then us. Been belted by Eels snd Roostersthepast 2 weeks. They're a bogey side for us though.

Really any team with a few ex players seems to be fired up to beat us. Just lucky Moyza is out... he destroyed us in the finals.

They have injuries... We have no excuse
 

franklin2323

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In a better performing side Blake would be talked about as a potential origin player.

I’m saying our poor form is all about the engine room and frankly our highest paid player in that department is a no show.

Put him outside Kikau and he gets the space he should get
 

franklin2323

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I think Hetherington is in our top 17, definitely needs to kick on though.

We have gone ‘all in’ on 5 or 6 players & atm only Kikau is consistently delivering. Cleary is improving, Blake, RCG, Maloney are offering very little.

I’m worried about Blake tbh, he’s looking very one dimensional. Right foot step.

Maloney is what he has always been.

The thing with Blake say we let him go. Other coaches would use him properly and would be close to the best centre in the comp.

Our roster isn't good enough for being full. We need to blow it up and start again
 
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Despite not being at their best, I can only see Cronulla bouncing back hard at this rate. They love playing us and I can't see it being close given they are like Melbourne in being great at frustrating teams into defeat with their defence.

Potential good news in Fifita picking up an injury which may sideline him next week. Would be massive because he has great games against us, his offloads always trouble.
 
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mxlegend99

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Put him outside Kikau and he gets the space he should get
I think the idea is to try adding strike to both sides of the field.

But Blake and Kikau together are a combination that give right edges nightmares.

We need to try:

LW - MWZ
LC - Blake
LSR - Kikau

I would look at trying Jed Cartwright at right centre. I was hyped for Whare returning to form this year. But he's clearly never going to be the same player again. Age + serious injuries years ago mean it's likely all downhill from here for him.

Im not convinced Jed would be any better. Just another example of how bad our depth is. But maybe his size and offload would give us something Whare cannot. Jed is worth a shot atleast.
 

Pomoz

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I think Hetherington is in our top 17, definitely needs to kick on though.

We have gone ‘all in’ on 5 or 6 players & atm only Kikau is consistently delivering. Cleary is improving, Blake, RCG, Maloney are offering very little.

I’m worried about Blake tbh, he’s looking very one dimensional. Right foot step.
And slow and unfit.
 

franklin2323

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I think the idea is to try adding strike to both sides of the field.

But Blake and Kikau together are a combination that give right edges nightmares.

We need to try:

LW - MWZ
LC - Blake
LSR - Kikau

I would look at trying Jed Cartwright at right centre. I was hyped for Whare returning to form this year. But he's clearly never going to be the same player again. Age + serious injuries years ago mean it's likely all downhill from here for him.

Im not convinced Jed would be any better. Just another example of how bad our depth is. But maybe his size and offload would give us something Whare cannot. Jed is worth a shot atleast.

Wayne Bennett when he 1st got to Souths said 'They were top 4 side last year. So I won't change much just add too it'

Compare that to Ivan's approach. The left was great so why wreck it? Make changes to get the right better
 

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