Round 9 vs the Sharks

[herbert henry1908]

Then patience will see it happen.

All I am saying importance for re-signing goes Crichton, Martin then him

Now Jed has gone Burton has one less to jump

Martin over Burton?! are you having a lend???

Back rowers are a dime a dozen.

 

[Panther Pete]

Sterlo said the same thing earlier in the year.

I seem to recall Joey Johns saying the same thing as well.

 

[betcats]

I seem to recall Joey Johns saying the same thing as well.

Yeah but what do these guys know? They will talk up any mug for a bit of media attention!

 

[Pomoz]

No it was a team effort under Gus' leadership.

See attached. Gus got Cameron in due to the good work he did at Parra with young players.

It was Matt Cameron that was the idea behind the academy. So why would the new boss allow the pathways he setup fall over?

That is a very poor, political answer. You can't blame Gus for all the failures and then say it is a "team effort" for the good things that happened when he was there.

Gus made some terrible decisions and there is no trying to blame others. Corey Payne, his role in bringing Warren Wilson to the club are two examples and Im sure there are plenty more. I used to think bringing Hook in as coach was a bad decision but after last years debacle, I think Hook was a useful coach to have for a limited period and the results justify the decision. I know many people don't agree about Hook, but he never delivered the sh*t on a stick Ivan delivered as coach last year.

 

[betcats]

That is a very poor, political answer. You can't blame Gus for all the failures and then say it is a "team effort" for the good things that happened when he was there.

Gus made some terrible decisions and there is no trying to blame others. Corey Payne, his role in bringing Warren Wilson to the club are two examples and Im sure there are plenty more. I used to think bringing Hook in as coach was a bad decision but after last years debacle, I think Hook was a useful coach to have for a limited period and the results justify the decision. I know many people don't agree about Hook, but he never delivered the sh*t on a stick Ivan delivered as coach last year.

Hook also never delivered a genuine top four team like Ivan has this year.

 

[martielang]

Hook also never delivered a genuine top four team like Ivan has this year.

Mate we were legit in the same exact position 2 years ago after we'd dismantled the then top of the table Dragons.

Lets not blow our load too early just to try an discredit a coaching god.

 

[betcats]

Mate we were legit in the same exact position 2 years ago after we'd dismantled the then top of the table Dragons.

Lets not blow our load too early.

Dragons were pretenders that year same as us, they finished 7th btw. Ivan has delivered a much better team this year with what many would consider a worse squad. Plenty of bottom four predictions for 2020 coming in this forum before the season.

 

[martielang]

Dragons were pretenders that year same as us, they finished 7th btw. Ivan has delivered a much better team this year with what many would consider a worse squad. Plenty of bottom four predictions for 2020 coming in this forum before the season.

The predictions were because of how the team performance last year... under Ivan. Literally a year before that Hook was apparently underachieving with a very similar squad by being circa top 4.

Double standards? Nah of course not.

 

[betcats]

The predictions were because of how the team performance last year... under Ivan. Literally a year before that Hook was apparently underachieving with a very similar squad by being circa top 4.

Double standards? Nah of course not.

We were fifth when he got sacked having conceded 50 points in recent weeks It was pretty obvious last year there were off field issues causing dramas in the squad, like blindingly obvious.

We are playing better footy now than we ever did under Hook IMO. We still have plenty left to prove but I think there is a lot more fight in this team, without comparing the stats we seem to better defensively and more disciplined.

 

[franklin2323]

Martin over Burton?! are you having a lend???

Back rowers are a dime a dozen.

Martin is going to be star. where does Burton play?

Martin is getting settled on the edge and is part of our 17. Why would you not re-sign him over a rookie that is yet to find his position

 

[franklin2323]

That is a very poor, political answer. You can't blame Gus for all the failures and then say it is a "team effort" for the good things that happened when he was there.

Gus made some terrible decisions and there is no trying to blame others. Corey Payne, his role in bringing Warren Wilson to the club are two examples and Im sure there are plenty more. I used to think bringing Hook in as coach was a bad decision but after last years debacle, I think Hook was a useful coach to have for a limited period and the results justify the decision. I know many people don't agree about Hook, but he never delivered the sh*t on a stick Ivan delivered as coach last year.

Gus was the one that was fighting with the head coach.

Gus was the one that fired Ivan and wanted another coach...

There is no way Gus would of worked well with Ivan.. that is why Gus had to go

 

[franklin2323]

Dragons were pretenders that year same as us, they finished 7th btw. Ivan has delivered a much better team this year with what many would consider a worse squad. Plenty of bottom four predictions for 2020 coming in this forum before the season.

Working well because everyone on the same page now. Would we be if Gus was here? I have my doubts

 

[betcats]

Martin is going to be star. where does Burton play?

Martin is getting settled on the edge and is part of our 17. Why would you not re-sign him over a rookie that is yet to find his position

I still think Burton will end up the halves or maybe fullback. Just because Jerome is preferred now doesnt mean it will stay that way. Cleary actually said something along those line prior to round 1 when asked by a reported about Luai/Burton.

The talk about Burton bulking up and playing in the forwards was very speculative, it certainly could happen but I think his talent and composure will see him end up in the halves, elsewhere if not at Penrith.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Leniu to play for Tetevano

 

[Westernised Panther]

I hope Leniu unleashes!!

 

[betcats]

Lets hope Spence kills it and gives us something else to argue over.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Martin is going to be star. where does Burton play?

Martin is getting settled on the edge and is part of our 17. Why would you not re-sign him over a rookie that is yet to find his position

He is? I haven’t seen anything that suggests he’ll be a star. Pretty good prospect, but it’s the backrow. Those type of players are very common. We’d be able to replace most of Martin’s output quite easily. Where as high quality spine prospects are rare.

I can’t believe it’s even a discussion. Spine players are what make the difference between good and great teams.



Even if I thought Martin was going to be a star, I’d still take Burton. Because I think Burton is going to be a star. How often do you see hand skills like that on someone who is 6’3? Hardly ever. And a star in the spine trumps a star backrower any day.

 

[WestyLife]

Leniu to play for Tetevano

Not bad at all. Will be good to get the kid a run.

 

[roofromoz]

Someone has strong mail in one of the Panthers FB groups that Charlie Staines will debut tomorrow.

 

[betcats]

Someone has strong mail in one of the Panthers FB groups that Charlie Staines will debut tomorrow.

Interesting.