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Round 9 vs Warriors

gitano

Juniors
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Lomax will be put back to the bench this week and for a while I think.
I must admit, I don't see him transitioning to NRL well.
 

hazzbeen

Bench
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Lomax will be put back to the bench this week and for a while I think.
I must admit, I don't see him transitioning to NRL well.
Mate give it a break , Aitken is OK , but not the best option at this time . So if its a toss up on who starts then Lomax has to be there for his goal kicking and don't give me this crap because you played at a high level you are right . I have been there also High level , but there are others on here that know their footy ...
 

gitano

Juniors
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Mate give it a break , Aitken is OK , but not the best option at this time . So if its a toss up on who starts then Lomax has to be there for his goal kicking and don't give me this crap because you played at a high level you are right . I have been there also High level , but there are others on here that know their footy ...
some kids have attributes that make them NRL ready.
Look at Xerri for the Sharks. A physical presence, quick, solid.

Lomax's skills worked against kids, in a bit of hit and giggle, but NRL is different.
He looks slow, not there physically either side of the ball, and predictable.
He needs time playing reserve grade against men. NRL isn't the place to learn this stuff.
 

hazzbeen

Bench
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some kids have attributes that make them NRL ready.
Look at Xerri for the Sharks. A physical presence, quick, solid.

Lomax's skills worked against kids, in a bit of hit and giggle, but NRL is different.
He looks slow, not there physically either side of the ball, and predictable.
He needs time playing reserve grade against men. NRL isn't the place to learn this stuff.
Mate he will learn quicker being in the top grade , because the kid has a footy brain , not like the other guy who has had plenty of chances . Not hating Aitken he can be good at times , strong fast but definitely not footy smart .... Anyway its healthy for the team to have competition in that area it keeps them on their toes . And I do see your point but I for one think Lomax will develop playing top grade .... But who knows what Super coach will do ....
 

possm

Coach
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I'm not in agreeance that he should have gotten a game.

FG is different. You're either a natural like Xerri and take to it immediately or you should have to grind away in reggies. Look at the physicality and build of those 2. Chalk and cheese. 1 is made for it, 1 isn't yet and may not be.

Lomax has got a name due to a step and flick pass. But when your step is unbelievably predictable and the flick pass hasn't looked like creating anything, you can see the hype isn't translating to NRL standard.

Or continue circle jerking about how he carved it up at a school carnival, either way.

Often a performance depends on the coach's instructions or game plan.

For example, it may have been Mary who instructed Aitken to run up and in to cut off play at every opportunity. Not a good plan for Aiten as he finds it difficult to read the defence. Under these circumstances it is understandable that Mary could not drop Aitken mainly because he instructed him to go up and in at every opportunity.

Then there is Lomax who was told by Mary not to do anything fancy and instead run hard and straight and get to a quick play the ball. Lomax who does have a footy brain and who has been using that footy brain right through his junior and lower grade career, obviously finds it hard to supress his urge to excel.

Well there you have it. Simply it's the coach and as soon as he is replace by a good top line coach the better.
 

Old Timer

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Anyone who suggests Lomax should be dropped is really blinkered
Lafai & Aitken had been selected week in week out despite periods of appalling form
Lomax has had 1 average game and all his other performances have been highly commendable
Despite a few errors yesterday he showed potential and that can only be realised by people showing faith in him and Zumba learning in the big stage
Aitken has been in the bug stage for a number of seasons and has shown the same thing week in week out and it was evident again yesterday as soon as he came on and the opposition scored shortly after.
People suggesting 1 game is the criteria for relegation must have missed a hell of a lot of football games because there are plenty ahead of Lomax for relation or in fact dumping from the squad entirely.
 

possm

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seems like frizell might be ok by saturday lets hope so yes 4 forwards needed but the love child will be on the bench ....................mary , mary , mary cant help himself
Well throw him out there in the middle then. Make him earn his spot on the bench and if he does not, drop him to CC next game.
 

This Year?

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Is this Round 9 Warriors v Saints or Lomax v Aitken thread?

Whatever 17 gets trotted out I hope they can make us proud again. We will definitely need 4 forwards on the bench because the Warriors forwards will be chomping at the bit to run over the top of our little blokes.
 

Dragon for life

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Anyone who suggests Lomax should be dropped is really blinkered
Lafai & Aitken had been selected week in week out despite periods of appalling form
Lomax has had 1 average game and all his other performances have been highly commendable
Despite a few errors yesterday he showed potential and that can only be realised by people showing faith in him and Zumba learning in the big stage
Aitken has been in the bug stage for a number of seasons and has shown the same thing week in week out and it was evident again yesterday as soon as he came on and the opposition scored shortly after.
People suggesting 1 game is the criteria for relegation must have missed a hell of a lot of football games because there are plenty ahead of Lomax for relation or in fact dumping from the squad entirely.
Yeah agree. I thought Lomax went alright. Ran some good lines off the playmakers. Made good metres running the ball out.
As mentioned, if making mistakes gets you dropped, the whole backline gets dropped.

We have a great set of forwards when all on the park. It’s the backline and particularly the back three where we struggle. Dufty with his pace needs to be running straight at holes, not running across field then trying to make something happen.. no room left to move. The wingers are not good under the highball or cross field kicks. We need bigger bodies in these areas.

I’m not sure why Aitken struggles defensively because this is where the coach should be able to pass on his experience in this area. Mary was pretty good defensively.
 

Slippery Morris

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Just curious why some think Rava should be dropped? He has improved since round 1 and for his lack of experience has shown good vision in setting up that team try against Parra, and has the ability to switch hands to get an offload away in that same play. Also, he was the one who sent JP away against the Roosters the week before.

I agree Rava offers something in attach but his defence is extremely poor and looks very shaky under the high ball. An easy target for the opposition. Seen then score a few tries on his side and he has looked clueless in defence those times.

Pearson should get a run this weekend especially in Suncorp. I would just like to see what he has to offer as well as Manata before they make a call on who of the 3 should be the permanent winger.
 

hewi

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some kids have attributes that make them NRL ready.
Look at Xerri for the Sharks. A physical presence, quick, solid.

Lomax's skills worked against kids, in a bit of hit and giggle, but NRL is different.
He looks slow, not there physically either side of the ball, and predictable.
He needs time playing reserve grade against men. NRL isn't the place to learn this stuff.

Does that apply to Latrell Mitchell also? He’s 21 and been in first grade against men for two years.
 

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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If web need a definitive answer on the AItken V Lomax debate then take a look at the Sivo 2nd try (71st minute), Aitken rushes up, again, leaves his man unattended the ball is then thrown out to the unmarked man who in turn gives it to Sivo, with Aitken nowhere in sight.

The fact is Aitken is a powerful runner, dangerous with the ball, but lacks the finite skills required to be a centre. His decision making in defense has not improved in the last 4yrs and may have even cost us higher finishing positions.

Is Lomax better? time will tell, but defensively and teamwork he is superior. Add to the fact that with Widdop moving on, he needs all the game time to develop his goal kicking skills at this level.

If someone can post the pic from the 71m 08s that will show everyone what I'm talking about.
 

LINESPEED

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If web need a definitive answer on the AItken V Lomax debate then take a look at the Sivo 2nd try (71st minute), Aitken rushes up, again, leaves his man unattended the ball is then thrown out to the unmarked man who in turn gives it to Sivo, with Aitken nowhere in sight.

The fact is Aitken is a powerful runner, dangerous with the ball, but lacks the finite skills required to be a centre. His decision making in defense has not improved in the last 4yrs and may have even cost us higher finishing positions.

Is Lomax better? time will tell, but defensively and teamwork he is superior. Add to the fact that with Widdop moving on, he needs all the game time to develop his goal kicking skills at this level.

If someone can post the pic from the 71m 08s that will show everyone what I'm talking about.

Agree 100%

I’ve viewed it twice this morning & I don’t need another pic as I’ve got 1000 images in my head of Turnstile in the background looking on nonplussed at his opposing centre crashing over for a try in the foreground

LOL
He’s finished @#3
 
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Redhoopz

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some kids have attributes that make them NRL ready.
Look at Xerri for the Sharks. A physical presence, quick, solid.

Lomax's skills worked against kids, in a bit of hit and giggle, but NRL is different.
He looks slow, not there physically either side of the ball, and predictable.
He needs time playing reserve grade against men. NRL isn't the place to learn this stuff.

Apart from one long range try that Xerri scored, he hasn't done alot else.... Not saying I don't rate the guy but the comparison is a bit far fetched. They're both good young centres who will develop over time.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Aikten on the bench again. I think the plan was for him to play some minutes in the middle, but loosing Norman and Frizzell scrapped that idea.
 

denis preston

First Grade
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Agree 100%

I’ve viewed it twice this morning & I don’t need another pic as I’ve got 1000 images in my head of Turnstile in the background looking on nonplussed at his opposing centre crashing over for a try in the foreground

LOL
He’s finished @#3
I got the impression that the numbers were wrong from the play the ball . Was there 4 on 3 or 5 on 4 ? In that case you could understand but he comes in even when the numbers are even .
 

league

Juniors
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Mate give it a break , Aitken is OK , but not the best option at this time . So if its a toss up on who starts then Lomax has to be there for his goal kicking and don't give me this crap because you played at a high level you are right . I have been there also High level , but there are others on here that know their footy ...
I'm certain gitano is either related or friends with Aitken. He's been hyping him up since before he debuted... Almost every post is about him. Ridiculous.
 

KogarahWarrior

Juniors
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some kids have attributes that make them NRL ready.
Look at Xerri for the Sharks. A physical presence, quick, solid.

Lomax's skills worked against kids, in a bit of hit and giggle, but NRL is different.
He looks slow, not there physically either side of the ball, and predictable.
He needs time playing reserve grade against men. NRL isn't the place to learn this stuff.
Slow? Predictable?? Are you stupid?

Actually, don't answer that...
 

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