Rumoured and Confirmed signings - Part 4

[franklin2323]

Calling him a gun based on form 3 years ago in lower grades is ridiculous.

Of course we’re going to sign at least another prop, but they’re going to be fillers. You can’t get anyone decent below 300k.

And as if to prove my point, Caleb Aekins was fullback in that 2018 team. Lower grades means almost nothing.

That team is based on 3-2-1 across the year. So heavily backs those that play a whole year it is good to look at those young guys. Several in that side has kicked on so can't totally ignore it.

We only really need fillers though. The top 17 picks itself

 

[franklin2323]

Oh, you're one of "those" people... Carry on then dipshit.

Happy to call Burton a huge loss at centre. Despite playing very limited time there in fact very limited FG fullstop

Happy to heap praise on Leinu as a future star despite not starting a FG game

Yet when someone else does it... All wrong

 

[betcats]

They can’t always been on the field. The problem is when they’re subbed off, particularly JFH. And unlike last year, we’re only a single injury from the rotation being much weaker.

How sure are you that Leota/tetavano this year was better than a potential bench pairing of Leniu/Eisenhuth? Becuase I would not be shocked at all if it turns out better with Leniu/Eisenhuth.

The depth was always going to take a hit with guys like Yeo, Luai, Staines, Martin, Critta and Leniu all getting re-signed, we only had that crazy depth cause we had so many young guys playing such good footy, our depth will come from player development. Im not happy about it but Leniu and Critta are top notch talents, if we can hold onto them by letting Tetavano go I am ok with it. Eisenhuth has never played in a pack as stong as ours and I liked what I saw from him last year I am happy for him to take Tetavano's bench role. If Lindsay Smith can live up to his potential than I am sure this time next year we will be trying to get him on the bench for 2022 after blooding him late 2021.

 

[betcats]

We also have Kikau and Martin who could easily shift in and be replaced by Capewell or Burns.

 

[hindy111]

Liam Martin is a far better middle then on the edge

Lindsay Smith is also a middle. Throw in a cast away or 2 and there can still be a decent pack

Capewell is to good a player to be on the bench.

So perhaps you so with Martin or Kikau in the middle.

A pack like this

JFH
Korisau
Leota
Capewell
Kikau
Yeo

Its all rep quality. And let's be honest bar Leota they can all pump put close to 80mins. So going to the bench would be not always needed.
But you would bring on

Spencer
Martin
May
Tetavano/ Einsuth

I personally think you would be foolish to let anyone go early. Including Burton.
A club like Penrith will have in 2021 and 2022 about 5 or 6 more kids debut.
2021 is a chance to win title. That gives the next batch an extra 12mths to develop before Laurie or Burton are free. It also draws a line in the sand for guys in future who sign elsewhere. As a club we wont release. It may work in favour with negotiations and guys resigning knowing they won't be going anywhere next season anyhows.

 

[betcats]

Capewell is to good a player to be on the bench.

So perhaps you so with Martin or Kikau in the middle.

A pack like this

JFH
Korisau
Leota
Capewell
Kikau
Yeo

Its all rep quality. And let's be honest bar Leota they can all pump put close to 80mins. So going to the bench would be not always needed.
But you would bring on

Spencer
Martin
May
Tetavano/ Einsuth

I personally think you would be foolish to let anyone go early. Including Burton.
A club like Penrith will have in 2021 and 2022 about 5 or 6 more kids debut.
2021 is a chance to win title. That gives the next batch an extra 12mths to develop before Laurie or Burton are free. It also draws a line in the sand for guys in future who sign elsewhere. As a club we wont release. It may work in favour with negotiations and guys resigning knowing they won't be going anywhere next season anyhows.

If we get Cini releasing Laurie makes sense to me. Laurie is a gun and id like to have him as our backup FB but we have other young guns who can do that role. A young centre is something we need.

I wouldnt release Burton unless he was really pushing for it and we can get Wakeham or Averillo in return plus some extra cash. Would like to get another young middle forward so if you could grab one of those halves plus a young middle with potential id let Burton go for that also.

 

[herbert henry1908]

That team is based on 3-2-1 across the year. So heavily backs those that play a whole year it is good to look at those young guys. Several in that side has kicked on so can't totally ignore it.

We only really need fillers though. The top 17 picks itself

I’m not doubting he played well, but it was RESERVE GRADE. You can’t call someone a *gun* based on 3 year old reserve grade form.

If Eisenhuth is to be our 4th prop, then the rotation is much weaker than last year. So we don’t just need fillers.

 

[Jane Murray]

I’m not doubting he played well, but it was RESERVE GRADE. You can’t call someone a *gun* based on 3 year old reserve grade form.

If Eisenhuth is to be our 4th prop, then the rotation is much weaker than last year. So we don’t just need fillers.

Wow, are you always this positive?

 

[herbert henry1908]

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How sure are you that Leota/tetavano this year was better than a potential bench pairing of Leniu/Eisenhuth? Becuase I would not be shocked at all if it turns out better with Leniu/Eisenhuth.

The depth was always going to take a hit with guys like Yeo, Luai, Staines, Martin, Critta and Leniu all getting re-signed, we only had that crazy depth cause we had so many young guys playing such good footy, our depth will come from player development. Im not happy about it but Leniu and Critta are top notch talents, if we can hold onto them by letting Tetavano go I am ok with it. Eisenhuth has never played in a pack as stong as ours and I liked what I saw from him last year I am happy for him to take Tetavano's bench role. If Lindsay Smith can live up to his potential than I am sure this time next year we will be trying to get him on the bench for 2022 after blooding him late 2021.

Well, to start with, we played most of the year with 3 props on the bench. So Leniu was already a big factor in our rotation. (He played 12 games)

I’m very confident that Leniu/Leota/Tetevano is a better bench than Leniu/Eisenhuth/Capewell with presumably someone else like Yeo or Martin playing minutes at prop. But it’s not just the bench, our starting props are weaker with Leota out there instead of Tamou.


If a club like the Tigers don’t keep Eisenhuth, then I think it says a fair bit. When we signed him I thought he’d be a decent 5th prop option, but as a 4th prop I’m disappointed.

of course I understand the depth would take a hit, but we’re looking at losing 50% of our top 6 props.

There’s no doubt Crichton is a huge talent, but well run clubs don’t pay through the nose for centres. You’ve never seen Bellamy or the Roosters break the bank for a centre, it’ll severely constrain our options in more important positions. The roosters let go Jennings when he asked for too much, they let go Mitchell when he asked for too much, since Bellamy lost Inglis he’s always used middle of the road centres. That’s the smart option for cap management.

 

[franklin2323]

I’m not doubting he played well, but it was RESERVE GRADE. You can’t call someone a *gun* based on 3 year old reserve grade form.

If Eisenhuth is to be our 4th prop, then the rotation is much weaker than last year. So we don’t just need fillers.

Ahh yes so lets ignore all the years of junior footy and only count the last 18 months... He got his start off the back of good form as a middle

Eisenhuth was pretty good under Ivan at the Tigers. He is the sort of guy that seems to go well under Ivan.

Who makes the GF and their side gets stronger the year after? If guys like Leinu, Fish etc continue to improve then the bench only needs fillers

 

[herbert henry1908]

Happy to call Burton a huge loss at centre. Despite playing very limited time there in fact very limited FG fullstop

Happy to heap praise on Leinu as a future star despite not starting a FG game

Yet when someone else does it... All wrong

I never called Burton a huge loss *at centre*, I called him a loss in general. I think he could make a good centre, but I never called him a gun centre. Big difference.

I said Leniu has a lot of potential, and sometimes you need to pay a bit more for potential. But I never called him a future star.


You’re talking out of your arse, as usual.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Ahh yes so lets ignore all the years of junior footy and only count the last 18 months... He got his start off the back of good form as a middle

Eisenhuth was pretty good under Ivan at the Tigers. He is the sort of guy that seems to go well under Ivan.

Who makes the GF and their side gets stronger the year after? If guys like Leinu, Fish etc continue to improve then the bench only needs fillers

Don’t ignore it, but don’t call him a gun based on 3 year old reserve grade form.

Yes, he has the potential to play in the middle. But that’s not the same as being a gun.

 

[herbert henry1908]

We also have Kikau and Martin who could easily shift in and be replaced by Capewell or Burns.

Move the best second rower in the comp for Billy Burns, yeah, great plan...

FMD there’s some nonsense in here.

Some of you guys are in utter denial about how much weaker our prop rotation is going to be, you’re grasping at straws talking about moving two second rowers who had their best years ever on the edge.

 

[betcats]

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Well, to start with, we played most of the year with 3 props on the bench. So Leniu was already a big factor in our rotation. (He played 12 games)

I’m very confident that Leniu/Leota/Tetevano is a better bench than Leniu/Eisenhuth/Capewell with presumably someone else like Yeo or Martin playing minutes at prop. But it’s not just the bench, our starting props are weaker with Leota out there instead of Tamou.


If a club like the Tigers don’t keep Eisenhuth, then I think it says a fair bit. When we signed him I thought he’d be a decent 5th prop option, but as a 4th prop I’m disappointed.

of course I understand the depth would take a hit, but we’re looking at losing 50% of our top 6 props.

There’s no doubt Crichton is a huge talent, but well run clubs don’t pay through the nose for centres. You’ve never seen Bellamy or the Roosters break the bank for a centre, it’ll severely constrain our options in more important positions. The roosters let go Jennings when he asked for too much, they let go Mitchell when he asked for too much, since Bellamy lost Inglis he’s always used middle of the road centres. That’s the smart option for cap management.

The tigers not keeping Eisenhuth means f**k all IMO, journeymen like that move around all the time. If you cant judge him based on his actual performances then you are clutching at straws. You've admitted you dont know much about Eisenhuth so ive got no idea how you could be so confident he cant replicate Tetevano's form.

We played with three props because Capewell was out injured so comparing two props v three props on the bench is silly, we arent going to play three props on the bench outside of injury.

I am not against letting Crichton walk but I am also not taking this 750k figure thrown out by the media as reliable.

 

[betcats]

Move the best second rower in the comp for Billy Burns, yeah, great plan...

FMD there’s some nonsense in here.

Some of you guys are in utter denial about how much weaker our prop rotation is going to be, you’re grasping at straws talking about moving two second rowers who had their best years ever on the edge.

Oh f**k off you idiot. I will back my opinions on RL over yours every day of the week. The bloke who was so confident we were going backwards last year now is again so confident we are going backwards this year lol ffs. Players develop and get better, Burns may well do that.

 

[Whino]

I was hoping for some good news this week. Looks like it won't be.

 

[herbert henry1908]

The tigers not keeping Eisenhuth means f**k all IMO, journeymen like that move around all the time. If you cant judge him based on his actual performances then you are clutching at straws. You've admitted you dont know much about Eisenhuth so ive got no idea how you could be so confident he cant replicate Tetevano's form.

We played with three props because Capewell was out injured so comparing two props v three props on the bench is silly, we arent going to play three props on the bench outside of injury.

I am not against letting Crichton walk but I am also not taking this 750k figure thrown out by the media as reliable.

You said it, he’s a journeyman. There’s a reason those guys move around, they’re not very good.

And I never admitted I don’t know much about Eisenhuth, I’ve seen him play several times and I didn’t think all that much of him other than being a stock standard bench prop. I just said the fact the tigers let him go speaks volumes.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Oh f**k off you idiot. I will back my opinions on RL over yours every day of the week. The bloke who was so confident we were going backwards last year now is again so confident we are going backwards this year lol ffs. Players develop and get better, Burns may well do that.

Show me where I said we were going backwards last year. You constantly try and put words in my mouth.

And if you’re talking about moving the best second rower in the comp, then that opinion is utter rubbish. The mere thought of it is moronic, especially for Billy Burns

 

[betcats]

You said it, he’s a journeyman. There’s a reason those guys move around, they’re not very good.

And I never admitted I don’t know much about Eisenhuth, I’ve seen him play several times and I didn’t think all that much of him other than being a stock standard bench prop. I just said the fact the tigers let him go speaks volumes.

Tetevano is a journeymen ffs. What are you going on about. If you want to slit your wrist over some media speculation and extended negotiations then go for it. I am not ready to declare that our still undecided prop rotation has got worse, I can see many paths to it improving.

 

[herbert henry1908]

Tetevano is a journeymen ffs. What are you going on about. If you want to slit your wrist over some media speculation and extended negotiations then go for it. I am not ready to declare that our still undecided prop rotation has got worse, I can see many paths to it improving.

Tetevano is only a journeyman because he was in legal trouble, he’s easily starting standard.