Rumoured and Confirmed Signings - XXV

[Poupou Escobar]

Cherry Evans is a good organising half who can also run. Foran is the same.
So you ignore all the other team combinations I listed and focus on pretty much. the only exception?
........ Yeah ok.

That's because Manly are one of the few teams to be able to keep two rep class halves together, and as we've seen, that combo was eventually broken up by the salary cap.

We are in a similarly rare position next year, with Norman coming into rep quality as a player. We will struggle to keep him IMO, and if he leaves then you will see Foran become the primary playmaker at our club, just like most other clubs.

 

[Parra47]

That's because the best halves combinations have a single dominant half. Therefore he is the primary playmaker. But combinations without a dominant half share the role. An example is Manly since 2011, and probably us next year.



If he's the better playmaker (and I agree he is) why should he run less? He's a good playmaker because of his running game.

Where did I say he should run less? I in fact said good halves can play both roles.
What I also said is most successful teams have a dominant play maker. Foran being the better play maker out of him and Norman, I'd have him as our 7.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Okay Stags the NYC season is over. Who is it?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Where did I say he should run less? I in fact said good halves can play both roles.

What roles are they? The role where you get the ball whenever you want it and the role where you have to defer to the other half? Or the role where you run the ball versus the role where you just catch and pass?

What I also said is most successful teams have a dominant play maker. Foran being the better play maker out of him and Norman, I'd have him as our 7.

THAT'S BECAUSE MOST TEAMS HAVE ONLY ONE DOMINANT HALF!!! So of course he will get most of the ball.

 

[hineyrulz]

Both the Manly centres looks pretty gash, no surprises we are chasing one of them.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

One of them is only 18, and the other is a back rower. Of course we have plenty of those.

 

[Parra47]

What roles are they? The role where you get the ball whenever you want it and the role where you have to defer to the other half? Or the role where you run the ball versus the role where you just catch and pass?



THAT'S BECAUSE MOST TEAMS HAVE ONLY ONE DOMINANT HALF!!! So of course he will get most of the ball.

Read the posts poo. Your repeating basically what I already said. You appear to be arguing in a circle against nothing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

No I'm arguing that we don't need a primary playmaker next year because we don't have a dominant half. We certainly don't need to stop either of our halves from running the ball.

 

[oldmancraigy]

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[bartman]

It's Junior.

http://www.parraeels.com.au/news/2015/10/04/statement_regarding_.html

Another f**king idiot/trouble magnet... just great :?.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The hooker for Ipswich is pretty handy, good pickup for Manly.

 

[Parra47]

No I'm arguing that we don't need a primary playmaker next year because we don't have a dominant half. We certainly don't need to stop either of our halves from running the ball.

Why would you think either has to stop running the ball? When Foran has played 7 for Manly he's been terrific.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Why would you think either has to stop running the ball? When Foran has played 7 for Manly he's been terrific.

You said that Norman would be the running 5/8 though, why can't Foran be the running 5/8 and Norman be the main play-maker?

 

[Parra47]

You said that Norman would be the running 5/8 though, why can't Foran be the running 5/8 and Norman be the main play-maker?

Read previous posts. I said both halves can play both roles. However the sussesfull teams have a dominant play maker. Foran is a much better play maker in my opinion so should be our dominant play maker.

 

[Avenger]

Read previous posts. I said both halves can play both roles. However the sussesfull teams have a dominant play maker. Foran is a much better play maker in my opinion so should be our dominant play maker.

Depends who plays on the left. Semi is on that side. We will mostly attack from that side.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Why would you think either has to stop running the ball? When Foran has played 7 for Manly he's been terrific.

What did he do differently than when he 'plays 6'?

Here's his list of games, including the jersey he wore and the position he was named in at kickoff: http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/Custom/MTQtLTQtLS0tLS0xMzkxMi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0=

 

[Parra47]

What did he do differently than when he 'plays 6'?

Here's his list of games, including the jersey he wore and the position he was named in at kickoff: http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/matches/Custom/MTQtLTQtLS0tLS0xMzkxMi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0=

Not a lot, but he was their main go to man with Cherry Evans not playing and showed he is a very good organising half on top of his running game. Much better than Norman which is my original point that you agreed with.

Not really sure what you are trying to point out from your attachment?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Not a lot, but he was their main go to man with Cherry Evans not playing and showed he is a very good organising half on top of his running game. Much better than Norman which is my original point that you agreed with.

No I agreed Foran is a better playmaker. I also stated that I thought this was the case due to his superior running game, making it easy for him to commit defenders.

If anyone is a better 'organiser', Norman is described as a great talker on the field, whereas Foran is described as quiet in general.

 

[Parra47]

No I agreed Foran is a better playmaker. I also stated that I thought this was the case due to his superior running game, making it easy for him to commit defenders.

If anyone is a better 'organiser', Norman is described as a great talker on the field, whereas Foran is described as quiet in general.

Ok Poo your using a play on words, playmaker = organiser, (ie, organising the plays), in my books. If you see the two words as meaning different things thats fine.

As I've already said I see Foran as the better player in this role. My opinion.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Read previous posts. I said both halves can play both roles. However the sussesfull teams have a dominant play maker. Foran is a much better play maker in my opinion so should be our dominant play maker.

Originally you said that Norman must be the "running 5/8" so that would mean that in your wording that Norman would run more than Foran. Why couldn't Norman and Foran play what's in front of them and then decide who to pass to or whether to run? Why didn't you just call them "halves"?