I'd prefer Foran myself, probably get him around 400k less.Personally I think we are going all out for DCE and if we get him it will be the biggest coup since the Canterbury 4.
Too easy :lol:
He'll probably be there in 2015 and it will probably be his last. Along with Gallen and Lewis.
. Parramatta are shelling out more than $750,000 this season to players that are no longer at the club, contributing to a salary cap nightmare they admit leaves their hands tied when attracting big-name recruits to Pirtek Stadium.
While coach Brad Arthur has restored confidence following consecutive wooden spoons by piloting the Eels to the fringe of the top eight leading into Friday night's meeting with South Sydney, the situation on the club's books is grim and with no overnight fix.
As a result of bogus recruitment and retention decisions and back-ending of contracts, the Eels have only 21 players in their top-25 NRL roster and have no room to move under the $6.3 million salary cap.
The depth of the problem is outlined by the fact they are paying upwards of $750,000 this season to eight players – Reni Maitua (Canterbury), Jacob Loko (Canterbury) Daniel Harrison (Manly), Jordan Latham (Manly), Cheyse Blair (Manly), Jake Mullaney (Salford), Matt Ryan (Wakefield Trinity) and Brayden Wiliame (Newcastle) – who have left Parramatta.
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The scenario is no brighter for next year, with the Eels already projected to be over the increased $6.55 million top-tier cap, a position which left them unable to re-sign veteran centre Willie Tonga and with no option but to offload Loko, who has been injury ravaged and had off-field issues.
Loko, 21, was to receive a huge pay rise from $130,000 this season to $440,000 in 2015 under his Parramatta contract, and the Eels will continue to contribute a significant portion to his salary at the Bulldogs next year.
A frustrated Parramatta chief executive Scott Seward said the cap dilemma would not be easily fixed.
''It highlights what a great job Brad has actually done with an absolutely compromised list. He doesn't have a top 25 to choose from, he only has a top 21, and that's not of his making,'' Seward said. ''He can't do much more than what he's doing.
''We're not in the position where we can go out and recruit much for next year either. That said, we've got a lot of faith in what wev'e got and what's coming through but we're going to be compromised again because of decisions made in the past.''
Parramatta's troubles extend to the $440,000 second-tier cap, under which they are still paying Blair and Wiliame and which counts registration termination payments for England-based Mullaney and Ryan.
With only 19 fit first-graders to pick from last weekend against the Warriors, who thrashed them 48-0, and NSW Origin fullback Jarryd Hayne rested, they had to ask the NRL for permission to play teenage debutant Tepai Moeroa because of their breach of the second-tier cap.
The Eels' predicament means veterans Fuifui Moimoi and Ben Smith won't be with them next season, and others such as winger Ken Sio will likely be on the way out.
The dire scenario will leave fans searching for culprits, and revisiting the notorious ''cleanout'' announcement by former head coach Ricky Stuart last year.
Seward, however, believes the seeds of Parramatta's botched roster were planted well before Stuart listed 10 unwanted names on an overhead projector 13 months ago, finding it mind-boggling the club was not able to cash in on cap space created by the retirements of legends Nathan Cayless (in 2010) and Nathan Hindmarsh and Luke Burt (in 2012).
''I think from an outside perspective you would have to question how the club could not have recruited players when they lost three high-profile club legends,'' Seward said. ''You take Hindmarsh, Cayless and Burt out of any salary cap list, you would have to presume there was a substantial amount of money that could have been spent on new talent. But there is not. That defies logic for me.
''We're probably still compromised in 2015 and we're only really coming out of it in 2016. That's not to say we're not going to be in the market but there's going to be some hard decisions that have to be made and you won't see the Eels out there having major splashes for marquee players because we just can't fit them in. And that's no one's fault but the club's. We're frustrated we can't take those big steps forward because we've got to fix the issues.''
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Hagan.FMD
who is responsible for that?
Nolan? Stuart? Ken Edwards?
How in the f**k are we anywhere near the cap for next season???? Sounds like BS to me to take the heat of the current management. Loko 440k???? Really???? Dafaq!!
FMD
who is responsible for that?
Nolan? Stuart? Ken Edwards?
Thanks for the explanation darl ;-)Honey, don't know why you don't believe the truth. This started when DA and Ossie were there, backended a number of players. SK and Ken Edwards ( who was responsible for more than most of us think) , exaggerated by doing more of the same. RS then I believe released players he didn't want and took the balance on the cap and backended those he signed
I understand Nolan was not part of all this, and the cap was not adequately supervised and that is why they had to keep Ben Smith as they would have had even less players to choose from.
The current admin are trying to resolve problems they had no control over, you wil see from the last balance sheet Sharp wrote off a massive amount of expenses incurred under the last management
We have to thank BA for making the team competitive, we will need to be patient and let Seward and Arthur work through the problem and get us out the other side, and to a lesser extent appreciate the work down to keep the good juniors as they will be the saving grace
Daly-Cherry Evans heads list of playmakers heading to market
Date
July 17, 2014 - 10:00PM
Adrian Proszenko
Chief Rugby League Reporter
Manly's Daly Cherry-Evans heads a list of more than half a dozen top playmakers who will go on the open market before the end of the season.
Rival clubs will be able to begin negotiations with Cherry-Evans, off contract at the end of next year, from November 1. The Manly No.7 headlines a list of star halves available from 2016 including Canterbury's Trent Hodkinson, South Sydney's Adam Reynolds, Brisbane duo Ben Hunt and Josh Hoffman, Gold Coast pairing Albert Kelly and Aidan Sezer and Parramatta's Chris Sandow.
Cherry-Evans' Sea Eagles halves partner, New Zealand international Kieran Foran, is also permitted to test his value on the open market in three months' time and is unlikely to commit until Cherry-Evans' fate is known. Todd Carney, likely to head to France next year, could also be an option for clubs in 2016 if the NRL is prepared to register him.
''I've not seen the likes of it,'' a leading player agent said. ''There's never been this much halves talent up for grabs at one time.''
Cherry-Evans is the biggest name on the list and despite Parramatta's salary cap problems this season, the Eels have identified him as a marquee recruit who can turn them into genuine contenders.
Parramatta coach Brad Arthur, an assistant coach at Manly last year, has a close relationship with the Queensland and Australian playmaker. That could be a factor in their favour as a host of clubs, most notably Brisbane, vie for the Redcliffe product's services.
While it's understood the Broncos are prepared to table a deal worth $1.1 million per season, the Eels will struggle to compete financially due to salary cap restraints. The wooden-spooners are still paying several players who were punted as part of previous coach Ricky Stuart's cleanout, which could limit their ability to recruit aggressively.
If the Eels get their man, it doesn't necessarily signal the end for Sandow. However, the incumbent halfback, on a deal worth $550,000 per annum, would need to take a drastic pay cut.
The Eels haven't won a premiership since the legendary Peter Sterling was the club's halfback. Officials believe Cherry-Evans is the ideal person to lead the young talent coming through the ranks of the blue and golds.
One factor tipping Cherry-Evans towards leaving Manly is his uneasy relationship with the senior playing group. There has been a much-publicised divide between the 25-year-old and some members of the squad, raising the hopes of potential poachers. While the Sea Eagles are keen to upgrade and extend Cherry-Evans' contract, his manager has indicated he will likely test his value on the open market.
While much has been made of the coaching merry-go-round now Wayne Bennett has announced himself a free agent, the abundance of halves talent on offer will make the player market just as competitive. The Broncos have opened dialogue with Hunt's management as a contingency should they miss out on Cherry-Evans, while Hodkinson's stocks have soared after steering NSW to their first series win in nine years.
Reynolds may be forced to move on after the Rabbitohs signed youngster Cody Walker to a squad already containing Luke Keary and John Sutton, while the Gold Coast will have big recruitment and retention decisions to make after commissioning a review of their operations.
Melbourne's famed spine is in need of an overhaul, with Ben Roberts heading to the Super League and youngster Ben Hampton also likely to move on. The Cowboys are yet to find a long-term partner for Johnathan Thurston, while the Sharks are scrambling for a replacement for Carney.
Halfbacks for hire
On the open market in 2015 (rivals can negotiate from November 1):
Manly: Daly Cherry-Evans and Kieran Foran
South Sydney: Adam Reynolds
Canterbury: Trent Hodkinson
Gold Coast: Albert Kelly and Aidan Sezer
Brisbane: Ben Hunt and Josh Hoffman
Parramatta: Chris Sandow
*Todd Carney is not a registered player after his contract was terminated by Cronulla
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DCE isn't off contract until 2016, how in the hell are we under cap restraints when just about the whole squad if off contract at the end of next year??? As i said in the earlier in the thread sounds like more utter BS.
We mentioned a few weeks back how Anthony Watmough had sounded out Eels coach Brad Arthur, amid his disenchantment with Manly management for failing to re-sign Glenn Stewart.
The latest mail suggests Parramatta is willing to buy-out a large chunk of Watmough’s heavily back-ended deal for next year, which is worth $970,000.
But Manly coach Geoff Toovey is adamant that no players will be released early and has commenced negotiations with Watmough’s management for a two-year extension.