Rumoured & Confirmed Signings - Part 5

[Copperhead]

A rib cartliage is a pain injury so it's indefinite. There's no way to recover a rib cartliage in the short term. He can't get back to 100% until next year that's the problem. The club has to judge when he's at the level where he can't get any better this year then let him play. Which is hard.

I thought he had a hamstring injury, and Garner had the rib problem.

 

[Original Name]

Ivan does love plodders

Hosking runs aggressive as? Martin uses his own body like it's a bludgeon a fair portion of the time. Like when Martin comes on the fence he's like top backrowers 5 when it comes to pure physicality in his runs. It feels the word plodder starts to lose meaning when you you say it like that. Garner, Eisenhuth, Lindsay Smith are the only real plodders at the club. Which doesn't make you a bad player or anything in of itself.

I thought he had a hamstring injury, and Garner had the rib problem.

Oh I thought you guys were talking about the club being vague about Garner not Martin. Anyway Martin has a big season ahead with Origin up coming. I'm sure the club is being a bit cautious with how much extra running he's going to be doing in Origin. When you're under fatigue that's when you can re injure hamstrings.

 

[Iamback]

Hosking runs aggressive as? Martin uses his own body like it's a bludgeon a fair portion of the time. Like when Martin comes on the fence he's like top backrowers 5 when it comes to pure physicality in his runs. It feels the word plodder starts to lose meaning when you you say it like that. Garner, Eisenhuth, Lindsay Smith are the only real plodders at the club. Which doesn't make you a bad player or anything in of itself.

Well Wilton won't come IF Martin re-signs.

Hosking was signed on the cheap
Sorensen signed on the cheap
Garner - admitted to taking a pay cut to come here
Capewell again signed on the cheap.

That is what Ivan does get cheap backrowers that have a limited skillset

 

[Murraymob1]

I have watched Wilton in his last few games.if we don’t have better already coming through the grades deadset we are in trouble.

 

[Chins get the wins]

I have watched Wilton in his last few games.if we don’t have better already coming through the grades deadset we are in trouble.

Moylan had a shocker v the Warriors but Wilton was just as much at fault. He was terrible

 

[Luke Bowden]

I prefer Hosking over Wilton.

 

[Iamback]

I have watched Wilton in his last few games.if we don’t have better already coming through the grades deadset we are in trouble.

Hence my plodder comment.
Hassett will be far better just involves taking a risk and fast tracking him

 

[Girds89]

Hence my plodder comment.
Hassett will be far better just involves taking a risk and fast tracking him

Not something Ivan generally does

 

[Chins get the wins]

Not something Ivan generally does

Not often but he did with Yeo

 

[Iamback]

Not something Ivan generally does

Losing Kiks and Martin
Replacing them with Hosking and Wilton is more his go

 

[Crashtest]

Not something Ivan generally does

He has given 20 players their first grade debut over the last 4 seasons though. And even last time he was here, he would of debut 12 or more.

 

[jane the pain]

Not often but he did with Yeo

And Tago

 

[Crashtest]

Hosking was signed on the cheap
Sorensen signed on the cheap
Garner - admitted to taking a pay cut to come here
Capewell again signed on the cheap.

That is what Ivan does get cheap backrowers that have a limited skillset

I don’t see it that he signs players with limited skill sets. Rather that he signs players with low value that he believes he can develop into better players.

And it’s hard to argue at his recent success at doing that. Of the players you mentioned, Capewell is now a state of origin player, Sorensen a Kiwi international. Hoskins value has already risen after just 2 first grade games here. The jury might still be out on Garner just yet, but even he improved majorly between his first game and second game.

 

[Murraymob1]

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I don’t see it that he signs players with limited skill sets. Rather that he signs players with low value that he believes he can develop into better players.

And it’s hard to argue at his recent success at doing that. Of the players you mentioned, Capewell is now a state of origin player, Sorensen a Kiwi international. Hoskins value has already risen after just 2 first grade games here. The jury might still be out on Garner just yet, but even he improved majorly between his first game and second game.

hey also come into a highly talented squad that helps them standout as well

 

[BxTom]

Well Wilton won't come IF Martin re-signs.

Hosking was signed on the cheap
Sorensen signed on the cheap
Garner - admitted to taking a pay cut to come here
Capewell again signed on the cheap.

That is what Ivan does get cheap backrowers that have a limited skillset

And gets premierships... That's why he picks the players and not you.

 

[Crashtest]

Hence my plodder comment.

I still don’t get all the “Ivan loves plodders” comments.

With the salary cap, no club can have a whole team full of star players. You need some that are solid and reliable and can do a role.

All coaches do this, even the Bellamy, Robinson and Bennett.

 

[Iamback]

And gets premierships... That's why he picks the players and not you.

We have 2 of the 3 best players in the comp, If a player can't do the job here that is on them

 

[Iamback]

I still don’t get all the “Ivan loves plodders” comments.

With the salary cap, no club can have a whole team full of star players. You need some that are solid and reliable and can do a role.

All coaches do this, even the Bellamy, Robinson and Bennett.

I presume this signing is for IF Martin doesn't re-sign

In which case we have lost 3 top backrowers and replaced with above average guys

Roosters needed a 9 went and bought Brandon Smith have added Spencer to replace JWH. Dom Young to replace Tupou.

When is the last established guy we have brought here in Ivan's time?

 

[BxTom]

We have 2 of the 3 best players in the comp, If a player can't do the job here that is on them

Changing the topic yet again...

 

[Crashtest]

I presume this signing is for IF Martin doesn't re-sign

In which case we have lost 3 top backrowers and replaced with above average guys

Roosters needed a 9 went and bought Brandon Smith have added Spencer to replace JWH. Dom Young to replace Tupou.

When is the last established guy we have brought here in Ivan's time?

The Wilton signing is a just a rumour though. Wilton is off contract in 2023, Martin in 2024, so Wilton won’t be signed to replace Martin. So I’m not sure how you can use a rumour about Wilton as an argument that Ivan loves plodders when it’s not even fact.

The Panthers and Roosters are two totally different clubs with two totally different 5 year plans. The Panthers are a development club, so have to plan for not just the current first grade players, but ensure a pathway for next ones coming through. So their plan will never be to go to market for stars, they look to develop their own. Then compliment that with signings needed to fill the gaps. The Roosters don’t have a junior nursery and so go to market. So the Roosters comparison doesn’t assist your argument that Ivan loves plodders.

The last star player we bought under Ivan was Api. Even though we had two Panther junior hookers in our first grade team at the time, Ivan onviously thought we needed a player better than what we had and went and bought one. He will no doubt do the same again when he sees a gap between what we need and what we have coming through.