Rumoured & Confirmed Signings - Part 5

[Iamback]

So we're bringing juniors home tgat failed elsewhere now?

I don't see the point. Chris Smith I can live with. But Christian Chrichton was just terrible. Not worth a top 30 spot.

He hasn't got a Top 30 spot though. He needs to train well to get it if not a kid will get.

 

[betcats]

I don’t mind bringing older critta back, he’s very close with his brother and they are heavily involved in the community they are always together on insta with a bunch of young people playing touch and basketball and assuming it will be a minimum wage deal. Keep the Mt druitt gang together all the young future stars will keep staying with the riff.

 

[mxlegend99]

Broncos still identify good talent they just can’t keep it tbf. D Fifita, Sam walker, Reece walsh, big tino were all on their books not to long ago.

Aside from David Fifita they didn't make an effort to keep those guys. The real stars slip through the cracks. The one they identified they got into a bidding war with Titans and hes now the most overpaid player in the competition.

 

[Iamback]

I don’t mind bringing older critta back, he’s very close with his brother and they are heavily involved in the community they are always together on insta with a bunch of young people playing touch and basketball and assuming it will be a minimum wage deal. Keep the Mt druitt gang together all the young future stars will keep staying with the riff.

Not even minimum wage. Train and trial deal he had his moments with us

 

[betcats]

Aside from David Fifita they didn't make an effort to keep those guys. The real stars slip through the cracks. The one they identified they got into a bidding war with Titans and hes now the most overpaid player in the competition.

Yeah but that is a retention issue not recruitment, they seem to be a bit arrogant in assuming these young guys will stay even though the nrl side has been struggling massively. They’ve got the roosters and storm picking the eyes out of their junior teams. Storm have tried it on us with Spencer and Geyer the last two years but we’ve managed to keep them cause they can see a path to playing first grade in a successful team and we’ve gone big on creating that culture that players want to be a part of.

Edit: keeping talented young guys at the club involves a lot of forward planning in terms of salary cap management and making sure there are opportunities for the best kids to get a chance at first grade, that’s where the donkeys get it wrong imo.

 

[DinkyDi]

Interesting?

 

[The Teach]

Stephen Crichton has posted it as well

 

[mxlegend99]

He hasn't got a Top 30 spot though. He needs to train well to get it if not a kid will get.

Firstly... Where does it say he's on a train and trial contract?

Secondly... Training ability and playing ability are two incredibly different things. He's not an NRL player. No matter how well he trains that won't change.

He was poor for us in his time here. He was poor for Bulldogs in his time with them. Not through a lack of effort or training form. The guy was built like a tank. I don't doubt he will train the house down. I also don't doubt he will be a liability for us when called upon.

If we're going to target guys who couldn't cement themselves into first grade we need to target players who only failed to do so because of the incredible talent in their position at the club.

Ie. Capewell came from a stacked forward pack. Meanwhile C.Chrichton couldn't cement himself in a terrible backline.

Starting to accumulate a fair few of the same type of player. Rather just promote from within and hope the next guy is a star than run with proven duds just because of experience.

 

[Black Diamond]

Geez, they are going hard at bringing back ex players. O'Sullivan, Smith and now C Critta

 

[Iamback]

Firstly... Where does it say he's on a train and trial contract?

Secondly... Training ability and playing ability are two incredibly different things. He's not an NRL player. No matter how well he trains that won't change.

He was poor for us in his time here. He was poor for Bulldogs in his time with them. Not through a lack of effort or training form. The guy was built like a tank. I don't doubt he will train the house down. I also don't doubt he will be a liability for us when called upon.

If we're going to target guys who couldn't cement themselves into first grade we need to target players who only failed to do so because of the incredible talent in their position at the club.

Ie. Capewell came from a stacked forward pack. Meanwhile C.Chrichton couldn't cement himself in a terrible backline.

Starting to accumulate a fair few of the same type of player. Rather just promote from within and hope the next guy is a star than run with proven duds just because of experience.

The Sports management company that posted the original put it up. Listed Trial and train contract

Which is why wing probably isn't he position. Ivan usually goes well with the plodders but he likely is going to be 4th or 5th in line. When you get to player 29 or 30 on the squad anyway they are usually ordinary

You can't compare the Signings of a few years ago to now. We had more cap space then and also we have internal options. You are chasing guys to put pressure on those young guys you don't want to block the pathway for the young guys either.

Someone established won't come for minimum wage or in this case $1000 a week for 8 weeks or whatever it is

 

[betcats]

Firstly... Where does it say he's on a train and trial contract?

Secondly... Training ability and playing ability are two incredibly different things. He's not an NRL player. No matter how well he trains that won't change.

He was poor for us in his time here. He was poor for Bulldogs in his time with them. Not through a lack of effort or training form. The guy was built like a tank. I don't doubt he will train the house down. I also don't doubt he will be a liability for us when called upon.

If we're going to target guys who couldn't cement themselves into first grade we need to target players who only failed to do so because of the incredible talent in their position at the club.

Ie. Capewell came from a stacked forward pack. Meanwhile C.Chrichton couldn't cement himself in a terrible backline.

Starting to accumulate a fair few of the same type of player. Rather just promote from within and hope the next guy is a star than run with proven duds just because of experience.

The sharks forward pack wasn’t very stacked in 2019 tbh. Capewell was kept out of the starting side by a rookie nikora. They Gallen, graham and Fifita but it was gals last year and Fifita wasn’t at his best. Capewell was 26 and not seen as much more then depth/utility type player when we signed him. He certainly didn’t look like he had the potential to become one of the best backrower in the comp or close to it.

 

[Hooked]

I could see CC back @ Penrith. Maybe a 2nd tier contract.

Posted on the 2nd of October. Page 374.


Just call me the spawn of Blade

 

[Hooked]

Geez, they are going hard at bringing back ex players. O'Sullivan, Smith and now C Critta

Katoa next

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

According to the Mole Penrith have beaten both Broncos and Titians for this player Carsil Vailkai. 20 years old. Will start in flegg. Hoping he progresses to NRL squad fairly quickly.
Ball playing 2nd rower, that can play lock.

 

[Black Diamond]

Katoa next

Or Moylan

 

[Westernised Panther]

Or Moylan

Or Bryce

 

[mxlegend99]

If we wanted to be smart about cheap pickups. Why not offer atop 30 spot to Ash Taylor who is only on a train and trial deal?

Rather than waste spots on guys who could never cement themselves. Go for guys who had the talent to do so and failed for other reasons. Honestly dont know how he's on a train and trial contract. Townsend and Brooks on $800k contracts yet there's a bloke with more talent than both just rotting away hoping to get a top 30 spot at a bottom 8 side.

 

[betcats]

If we wanted to be smart about cheap pickups. Why not offer atop 30 spot to Ash Taylor who is only on a train and trial deal?

Rather than waste spots on guys who could never cement themselves. Go for guys who had the talent to do so and failed for other reasons. Honestly dont know how he's on a train and trial contract. Townsend and Brooks on $800k contracts yet there's a bloke with more talent than both just rotting away hoping to get a top 30 spot at a bottom 8 side.

Cause he has to ticker. He got dropped by the titans last year before the season ended. He had 5 years at the titans doing absolutely f**k all. He looked overweight last year imo. The fact he could only get a train and trial means there’s probably a lot more to his story than just bad form for five years.

 

[martielang]

Look more holistically MX. Likely a bit to do with team harmony/culture as well.

 

[mxlegend99]

Cause he has to ticker. He got dropped by the titans last year before the season ended. He had 5 years at the titans doing absolutely f**k all. He looked overweight last year imo. The fact he could only get a train and trial means there’s probably a lot more to his story than just bad form for five years.

Its poor coaching. Titans have consistently overpaid players and turned them to shit. Attitude issues right through that club club and it infects the players.

In an upside to Taylor. Luke Brooks has been shit his entire career. Aside from when Ivan was coaching him. Which is why IMO Ash Taylor is well worth the gamble. Any decent coach could get him to perform half decently atleast. Ivan is as good as any coach at getting the best out of his halves.

Couldn't possibly do worse than May did at 7 for us at the very least and would be worthwhile just to cover Nathan during Origin and if he is injured again.

I see a bargain for the first club to offer him a top 30 spot. Not often talent like that doesnt have clubs lined up for a bargain either.