Rumoured & Confirmed Signings - Part 5

[GongPanther]

Actually you are right Alice. If Cleary was to look at 2027 in being his last season, and Ciraldo waited until then, he would take over in November/December in getting prepared for the 2028 season.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

It’s not the point. It’s not the argument. It’s not about whether Gould had to go or not.

This notion promoted by Lamback that everyone at our club was fully aware about all deliberations, negotiations, transparency around Ivan being brought back to the club is farcical.

Never let the truth get in the way of a good story as you seem to think.

The ends justify the means so all good there, but Dave O’Neill was outed for a reason and you don’t have to be a genius to work out why.

For hecks sake. Why the handwringing about this. Does it seriously matter ?

Gus's work at Penrith was fast coming to an end. He was at the stage that he was fiddling rather than doing anything major. Gus was already looking for another major project.

Personally I'm far happier with Ivan being back, rather than Bennett. (for reasons I've highlighted earlier....I'm not fond of Bennett)



Looking back for Penrith it has worked out beautifully.

Dave O'Neil was voted out in the recently held board elections.

These elections were voted by Penrith Panthers members.
O'Neil got the least amount of votes in these elections. Therefore he lost his place on the board.

John Faragher stood in this election and was voted onto the board by the members.

 

[Kilkenny]

The process was changed to make the board to vote on such things

It wasn't possible for Gus or Dave to make such decisions

It was changed after Going through Justin Pascoe and Corey Payne as CEO's in 12 months.

Gus stated in one of his many pressers that the board told him to fire hook.

We’re not talking about who gave permission to fire Hook.

Were talking about how Ivan Cleary suddenly re-emerged as our head coach.

There was no process, Gus was supposedly the man, in charge of all things football. At least he thought so.

For hecks sake. Why the handwringing about this. Does it seriously matter ?

Gus's work at Penrith was fast coming to an end. He was at the stage that he was fiddling rather than doing anything major. Gus was already looking for another major project.

Personally I'm far happier with Ivan being back, rather than Bennett. (for reasons I've highlighted earlier....I'm not fond of Bennett)



Looking back for Penrith it has worked out beautifully.

Dave O'Neil was voted out in the recently held board elections. What caused this, I have no idea. Possibly the fact he was opposed by John Faragher (a penrith legend)

I have far more important stresses in my life, rather than this.

it’s about truth. It’s an important attribute in life.

 

[BossleyPanther]

Are you referring to Lamback here, Kilkenny or both ?


I believe that everyone feeds the narrative that sits the best with their inner being. It's human nature to do that.

I love the Lamback post

 

[Iamback]

It was the board that signed Ivan Cleary.

As it was the Board that fired hook

The new processes doesn't allow for any hiring and firing without their say so. Process is to stop the club bleeding money through redundancy's

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

We’re not talking about who gave permission to fire Hook.

Were talking about how Ivan Cleary suddenly re-emerged as our head coach.

There was no process, Gus was supposedly the man, in charge of all things football. At least he thought so.

it’s about truth. It’s an important attribute in life.

Are you seriously carrying on about whether Gould had absolute power at that time or not.

Gould did answer at all times to the group CEO Fletcher. I can remember Gould himself mentioning that fact quite early in his time at Penrith.

 

[Iamback]

We’re not talking about who gave permission to fire Hook.

Were talking about how Ivan Cleary suddenly re-emerged as our head coach.

There was no process, Gus was supposedly the man, in charge of all things football. At least he thought so.

it’s about truth. It’s an important attribute in life.

Dave O'Neill told the board that Ivan would come back if it was possible.

Barrett/John Cartwright

Wayne Bennett

Ciraldo

Holbrook and few others also expressed interest.

The Board then met to decide the best option moving forward.

Maybe so but it should be one person it allows emotions to make decisions for you

 

[BxTom]

It was the board that signed Ivan Cleary.

So in effect you are saying the board got rid of O'Neill for doing what they wanted? I think not.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

So in effect you are saying the board got rid of O'Neill for doing what they wanted? I think not.

No that's not what I'm saying.

The board had nothing to do with O'Neil being voted off the board. This happened via board elections, voted on by Penrith Panthers members.

 

[Aliceinwonderland]

So in effect you are saying the board got rid of O'Neill for doing what they wanted? I think not.

I've gone back and edited my comment. To make it less confusing.

 

[ColdWetPanther]

Is this the Panthers rugby league forum, or did I wander onto the Succession fan site?

 

[CCJohnC]

Watch Soni Luke playing in NSW Cup at 3 PM Saturday televised by Fox live.

 

[Original Name]

Is this the Panthers rugby league forum, or did I wander onto the Succession fan site?

Please Blade or Panther Daz, come back and give us the inside word so this place can be about interesting Penrith footy things and get good again.

 

[The_Frog]

Luai isn't leaving and he has a strong bond with these guys too. Between Nathan and Jarome we have the majority of the side with reason to stay.

52 games under Hook for 31 forced outs, 27 try assists

64 games under Ivan for 73 forced drop outs and 47 try assists. His stats boosted majorly despite a lean 2019 season

But the stats don't show the insane variety Nathan has in his bag of tricks now either. He has by far the best kicking game in the competition and can control games and field position entirely with his boot.

He never did that under Hook. Not even once. There's no way he's the best most complete half in the competition under Hook.

Ivan's achieved what Hook was never going to. But even on Grand Final morning last year, most of us feared Ivan couldn't achieve it either.

 

[Kilkenny]

Please Blade or Panther Daz, come back and give us the inside word so this place can be about interesting Penrith footy things and get good again.

I think Panther Daz May have moved on.

 

[Crashtest]

Ivan's achieved what Hook was never going to. But even on Grand Final morning last year, most of us feared Ivan couldn't achieve it either.

It wasn’t most of us that thought that though. It was just that the few who did were very vocal about it.

 

[Smug Panther]

It wasn’t most of that thought that though. It was just that the few who did were very vocal about it.

He did completely shit the bed the year before with the Naden/ Plod Bro May thing

 

[GongPanther]

It’s accepted fact. Acknowledged by everyone directly and indirectly involved (media). It’s what happened, no one denies it, except you apparently.

It's what I've always known, and I don't stick my oar in these to and fros.

 

[Iamback]

Please Blade or Panther Daz, come back and give us the inside word so this place can be about interesting Penrith footy things and get good again.

Honestly it wouldn't matter.

There are links to comments from those there and isn't good enough.

People believe what they want too

 

[Iamback]

He did completely shit the bed the year before with the Naden/ Plod Bro May thing

To be fair the right is still an issue