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Rumoured Targets 3

Yosh

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Will be keeping a keen eye on Madden this week. Hopefully he might turn out as our answer.
 
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Ive watched Madden a few times this year and dont see all that much in him that makes me think hes better than Clune right now

I might be missing something i dont know. Hes certainly younger and a bit bigger so theres that i guess
 

ryan.a87

Juniors
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My understanding is he played 2nd fiddle to Crossland through his teenage teams and reserves…..not really a highlight on the resume
 

Bdubs

Juniors
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My understanding is he played 2nd fiddle to Crossland through his teenage teams and reserves…..not really a highlight on the resume
i don't think that really matters when you compare what both have offered in first grade thus far. Madden has provided more in my opinion, so i think his game has developed futher to this point and is likely to keep improving more than Crossland, he seems to have reached his ceiling

Madden would be a target that we would actually be able to get
 

Bdubs

Juniors
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Drinkwater as the main playmaker with Pryce running riot wider on one side of the ruck and KP the other with Hastings at lock would be…….. Please just make it happen. So any option and combos to try until it works. Even Madden could play 14.
Drinkwater would be a good buy for the right price but i don't see how we fit him into our side

Ponga has said he doen't want to play in the halves, so he'll stay at fullback.
Pryce will be in the 6 in 2024, hopefully 2023
Drinkwater is a fullback, he isn't a halfback or 5/8 and his defence isn't great defending in the front line.

Even if we moved Ponga to 5/8, where does that leave Pryce?
 

PhilGould

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Toohey's News

- Toohey goes to bat for AOB amid reports he’s not popular with the players, saying if he’s guilty of anything it’s being too loyal to the players who are letting him down. He also admits that the depth options are almost non-existent so not sure exactly what point he’s trying to make. The options he mentions are Oryn Keeley & Max Bradbury, both SG Ball players who would’ve done little if any training with first grade so far, and Ben Talty from NSW Cup.
- In a silver lining from the past week, the Klemmer situation may “cost us” Luke Brooks. Both are unofficially managed by the deregistered Isaac Moses who is apparently “ropable” at the club’s treatment of Klemmer. (Not mentioned here but he also manages AOB).
- Not only will Michael Dobson be an assistant coach with the NRL squad and head coach of the NSW Cup team, he’s also the man replacing Garth Brennan as Head of Pathways. He’s currently pathways boss and coaching the Colts team for Wynnum Manly. Toohey adds that given the importance of the role there are people who believe it should be a stand-alone position.
- Brodie Jones has played 75 minutes total in his last 3 games and touched the ball 3 times.
 

Knight Tales

Bench
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if the players are guilty of not trying for AOB then the question becomes how has lack of depth taken three years to address! Reminds me of when Stone was coach. Cut and paste despite the results.
 

Woosh

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There's an old saying about insanity and doing the same things over and over and expecting a different result.

In the case of Knights coach Adam O'Brien, the analogy can be applied to some of his team selections this season. Stick with the same non-performing, complacent, disinterested players who don't fear being axed week after week and expect them to eventually drag you out of the mire.
Ironically, the scuttlebutt from those who want to see the back of O'Brien after a forgettable season is that he has lost the dressingroom. That his playing group is talking behind his back and has stopped playing for him. It's an easy dart to throw without proper evidence when the team's season has spectacularly gone down the gurgler.

The fact is if O'Brien is guilty of anything, it's of being too loyal to the players who have let him and their teammates down and of being too conservative at the selection table.

He hasn't been willing often enough to make a tough call and send a strong message about the standards of performance required.
Privately, the coach will argue he doesn't have the depth of talent in the lower grades to regularly wield the axe and he's right - depth is a big issue.
He has said: "I'm not going to devalue the jersey by picking someone who hasn't earned the right to play NRL." But what about those players in the top grade who devalue the jersey by simply going through the motions without fear of reprisal?

Why not hand a young kid like Oryn Keeley or Max Bradbury a debut off the bench and throw them out there for 10 or 15 minutes? How will that burn them out?

Or what about rewarding a local guy like Ben Talty from reserve grade with a bench spot. I'm willing to bet he would give his absolute all for the jersey and the town if given the chance. The likes of Jacob Kiraz and Zac Hosking were let go by the club because they weren't regarded as future NRL players.

As they have shown, players can surprise you with the level they can handle when actually given a crack.
Will the farce surrounding the David Klemmer saga this week potentially cost the Knights the signature of Wests Tigers halfback Luke Brooks if he actually becomes available?

Both players are looked after by de-registered agent Isaac Moses, who was said to be ropable about the club's treatment of Klemmer.

The Knights deservedly copped plenty of flak from just about everyone involved in rugby league for the way the controversy blew up publicly.

There is no question the Knights prop was at fault but he has actually come out of it with his approval rating enhanced after his much-publicised run-in with trainer Hayden Knowles.

Not surprisingly, any future similar incidents involving players will be handled directly by new director of football Peter Parr and dealt with before potentially being brought to the attention of CEO Phil Gardner or the club's HR department.
We told you weeks ago former Knights halfback Michael Dobson would be a new face in the Knights football department next season.

It now seems he will be one of the club's busiest employees as well.

We're hearing Dobson will not only coach the Knights' NSW Cup side and act as a transition coach in 2023, he will also fill the role of Head of Pathways. He'll replace Garth Brennan, who controversially parted ways with the club in June after just nine months. Dobson is currently the Colts coach and pathways boss of Queensland Cup club Wynnum Manly and would have been first grade coach next season had he not taken the Knights job.

Just how he juggles his workload remains to be seen. Given the importance of the pathways, there are those who believe it should be a stand-alone position.

Just where this all leaves current Cup coach Mark O'Meley remains to be seen.
No player has epitomised the Knights' ailing fortunes this season more than forward Brodie Jones.

Jones proved his utility value last season when he featured 22 times in the top grade and twice played a match-winning role to earn himself a new two-year-deal. But like a few of his teammates, his form has fallen off a cliff in 2022. So much so, he has only played 8 NRL games. In his past three, he has played 75 minutes all up but only touched the ball three times. He had one carry in 24 minutes against the Bulldogs last Sunday and in 28 minutes the previous week against the Roosters, didn't touch the footy at all.
 
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if the players are guilty of not trying for AOB then the question becomes how has lack of depth taken three years to address! Reminds me of when Stone was coach. Cut and paste despite the results.
Has that been O'Brien though?
I get the impression it's not his role to build a squad or depth.
 

PhilGould

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Didn’t hear the report but I’ll take their word for it.

Unreal try scoring record this season on the wing for Wigan, 25 odd tries in 15 games including 7 in 1 game. Still think he’ll have the same problems he faced in the NRL last time. Too small for the wing, not enough playmaking for fullback.
 

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