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Keyser Kint

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Guys, in terms of our top 30 squad the hooking options seem to be Kaysa and Mahoney and maybe Will Smith. Surely we need another option for next year?
 

T.S Quint

Coach
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Guys, in terms of our top 30 squad the hooking options seem to be Kaysa and Mahoney and maybe Will Smith. Surely we need another option for next year?

Why?
We’ve got three already. Just because they’re not great options doesn’t mean we don’t have any options.
 

El Diablo

Post Whore
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Eels hold out hope for Hayne amid plans for $4m war chest from 2020

Adrian Proszenko
8 November 2018 — 8:00pm

Jarryd Hayne may have given up on signing with Parramatta, but the club hasn’t given up signing him just yet.

The Eels are in a salary cap bind that has left them with just $200,000 to offer Hayne. However, that pain will be short lived, with the club in the process of overhauling its roster management to ensure it doesn’t squander the $4 million war chest it has to spend on players from 2020.

The Eels currently have no room to pay Hayne his market value because most of their cap is invested in big names Mitchell Moses, Corey Norman, Michael Jennings, Bevan French, Brad Takairangi and Clint Gutherson. All of those players are off contract and - with the exception of captain Gutherson - are unlikely to be offered new deals.

The blue and golds have only a dozen players contracted for 2020, giving them the cash and flexibility required to overhaul a squad that finished the 2018 season with the wooden spoon.

However, that is of little solace to Hayne, who has always indicated his desire to stay put but can’t do so until at least one contracted player moves on.

The two-time Dally M medallist has publicly stated he is resigned to not playing for Parramatta again, although Eels CEO Bernie Gurr hasn’t given up hope of squeezing him into the 2019 squad.

"We would revisit that, yes," Gurr told Fairfax Media. "It’s pretty common knowledge we are at the same place we’ve been for a couple of weeks.

"We need to free up some salary cap space to be anywhere near what Jarryd would want. That’s not happening at the moment. Nothing has really changed over the last month."

Asked how late the Eels would be prepared to wait to welcome Hayne back - the players began pre-season training last week - Gurr said: "That will be part of a broader decision.

"We have a couple of spots left on our roster at the lower end of the dollar value in the salary cap, so we may need to make some decisions in the new year about how we utilise those spots.

"That would have a direct bearing on whether there would be a spot and any dollars left for another player, someone such as Jarryd."

While a raft of big, back-ended deals has bent the club's cap out of shape, Eels officials have vowed not to repeat the mistakes of the past. New general manager of football Mark O’Neill is tasked with implementing the recommendations of an independent club review and putting together a new list-management strategy.

"We’re going to put a lot of thought into what our roster composition will be and how it dove-tails into a salary cap," Gurr said. "That’s about where we dedicate our money by position and by players. We’re looking at 2020 because we’ve got a number of players coming off contract at the end of 2019.

"We’re going to have some salary cap space and the ability to go to market from a roster point of view.

"We’re going to take a very reasoned and clinical approach about how we go about our roster strategy. The salary cap is about getting value for money and that’s what we’re going to try to do.

"Salary cap management and the roster management around it, you have to get that right. If you don’t, you’re going to struggle."
 
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The best up and coming hooker that I can see is...
Brandon Smith

But the Storm have signed him up for 5 years I believe to be Cameron's long term replacement. They know talent when they see it.

Not denying Brandon Smith is a great player. But have you watched him play closely.?
He is very tough in both attach and defence. But he lacks allot of class in that position.
Brandon is a runner of the ball. His tough and very hard to tackle. Prob best suited to a lock more so than a hooker.
His service is not the greatest. He doesn't kick at all.
Just my opinion.
Classy tough player but a classy hooker i don't see.
 

ash411

Bench
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Eels hold out hope for Hayne amid plans for $4m war chest from 2020

Adrian Proszenko
8 November 2018 — 8:00pm

Jarryd Hayne may have given up on signing with Parramatta, but the club hasn’t given up signing him just yet.

The Eels are in a salary cap bind that has left them with just $200,000 to offer Hayne. However, that pain will be short lived, with the club in the process of overhauling its roster management to ensure it doesn’t squander the $4 million war chest it has to spend on players from 2020.

The Eels currently have no room to pay Hayne his market value because most of their cap is invested in big names Mitchell Moses, Corey Norman, Michael Jennings, Bevan French, Brad Takairangi and Clint Gutherson. All of those players are off contract and - with the exception of captain Gutherson - are unlikely to be offered new deals.

The blue and golds have only a dozen players contracted for 2020, giving them the cash and flexibility required to overhaul a squad that finished the 2018 season with the wooden spoon.

However, that is of little solace to Hayne, who has always indicated his desire to stay put but can’t do so until at least one contracted player moves on.

The two-time Dally M medallist has publicly stated he is resigned to not playing for Parramatta again, although Eels CEO Bernie Gurr hasn’t given up hope of squeezing him into the 2019 squad.

"We would revisit that, yes," Gurr told Fairfax Media. "It’s pretty common knowledge we are at the same place we’ve been for a couple of weeks.

"We need to free up some salary cap space to be anywhere near what Jarryd would want. That’s not happening at the moment. Nothing has really changed over the last month."

Asked how late the Eels would be prepared to wait to welcome Hayne back - the players began pre-season training last week - Gurr said: "That will be part of a broader decision.

"We have a couple of spots left on our roster at the lower end of the dollar value in the salary cap, so we may need to make some decisions in the new year about how we utilise those spots.

"That would have a direct bearing on whether there would be a spot and any dollars left for another player, someone such as Jarryd."

While a raft of big, back-ended deals has bent the club's cap out of shape, Eels officials have vowed not to repeat the mistakes of the past. New general manager of football Mark O’Neill is tasked with implementing the recommendations of an independent club review and putting together a new list-management strategy.

"We’re going to put a lot of thought into what our roster composition will be and how it dove-tails into a salary cap," Gurr said. "That’s about where we dedicate our money by position and by players. We’re looking at 2020 because we’ve got a number of players coming off contract at the end of 2019.

"We’re going to have some salary cap space and the ability to go to market from a roster point of view.

"We’re going to take a very reasoned and clinical approach about how we go about our roster strategy. The salary cap is about getting value for money and that’s what we’re going to try to do.

"Salary cap management and the roster management around it, you have to get that right. If you don’t, you’re going to struggle."
Adrian should be at the meeting sitting under fitzy's feet tonight shouldn't he? waiting to get his article to submit?
 

hindy111

Post Whore
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Not denying Brandon Smith is a great player. But have you watched him play closely.?
He is very tough in both attach and defence. But he lacks allot of class in that position.
Brandon is a runner of the ball. His tough and very hard to tackle. Prob best suited to a lock more so than a hooker.
His service is not the greatest. He doesn't kick at all.
Just my opinion.
Classy tough player but a classy hooker i don't see.


Agree, looks like a fat little stump. Unsure where he will be at his best. Most his good runs where from close to the line. Lets see him once pther team are awake of his strengths.
 

TheRam

Coach
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Not denying Brandon Smith is a great player. But have you watched him play closely.?
He is very tough in both attach and defence. But he lacks allot of class in that position.
Brandon is a runner of the ball. His tough and very hard to tackle. Prob best suited to a lock more so than a hooker.
His service is not the greatest. He doesn't kick at all.
Just my opinion.
Classy tough player but a classy hooker i don't see.

You are right about the kicking, he has none, but his service is very good to great at times, especially for a guy like you said is more suited to the backrow.

Over time I think he will be even better with his passing game, you can see it in him and how much he has improved. Kicking though he does not do.
 

84 Baby

Referee
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29,435
You are right about the kicking, he has none, but his service is very good to great at times, especially for a guy like you said is more suited to the backrow.

Over time I think he will be even better with his passing game, you can see it in him and how much he has improved. Kicking though he does not do.
Do you need glasses? His service is mediocre at best. Granted that’s better than Kaysa but he’s just Issac Luke 2.0 with even less kicking. He’ll go ok as long as he is behind Bromwiches, Kaufusi and NAS.
 

Twizzle

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Staff member
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Eels hold out hope for Hayne amid plans for $4m war chest from 2020

Adrian Proszenko
8 November 2018 — 8:00pm

Jarryd Hayne may have given up on signing with Parramatta, but the club hasn’t given up signing him just yet.

The Eels are in a salary cap bind that has left them with just $200,000 to offer Hayne. However, that pain will be short lived, with the club in the process of overhauling its roster management to ensure it doesn’t squander the $4 million war chest it has to spend on players from 2020.

The Eels currently have no room to pay Hayne his market value because most of their cap is invested in big names Mitchell Moses, Corey Norman, Michael Jennings, Bevan French, Brad Takairangi and Clint Gutherson. All of those players are off contract and - with the exception of captain Gutherson - are unlikely to be offered new deals.

The blue and golds have only a dozen players contracted for 2020, giving them the cash and flexibility required to overhaul a squad that finished the 2018 season with the wooden spoon.

However, that is of little solace to Hayne, who has always indicated his desire to stay put but can’t do so until at least one contracted player moves on.

The two-time Dally M medallist has publicly stated he is resigned to not playing for Parramatta again, although Eels CEO Bernie Gurr hasn’t given up hope of squeezing him into the 2019 squad.

"We would revisit that, yes," Gurr told Fairfax Media. "It’s pretty common knowledge we are at the same place we’ve been for a couple of weeks.

"We need to free up some salary cap space to be anywhere near what Jarryd would want. That’s not happening at the moment. Nothing has really changed over the last month."

Asked how late the Eels would be prepared to wait to welcome Hayne back - the players began pre-season training last week - Gurr said: "That will be part of a broader decision.

"We have a couple of spots left on our roster at the lower end of the dollar value in the salary cap, so we may need to make some decisions in the new year about how we utilise those spots.

"That would have a direct bearing on whether there would be a spot and any dollars left for another player, someone such as Jarryd."

While a raft of big, back-ended deals has bent the club's cap out of shape, Eels officials have vowed not to repeat the mistakes of the past. New general manager of football Mark O’Neill is tasked with implementing the recommendations of an independent club review and putting together a new list-management strategy.

"We’re going to put a lot of thought into what our roster composition will be and how it dove-tails into a salary cap," Gurr said. "That’s about where we dedicate our money by position and by players. We’re looking at 2020 because we’ve got a number of players coming off contract at the end of 2019.

"We’re going to have some salary cap space and the ability to go to market from a roster point of view.

"We’re going to take a very reasoned and clinical approach about how we go about our roster strategy. The salary cap is about getting value for money and that’s what we’re going to try to do.

"Salary cap management and the roster management around it, you have to get that right. If you don’t, you’re going to struggle."

so we are going to war in 2020 ?

Hayne's experience will be invaluable if he is still with us as he is used to dodging bullets
 

strider

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I dont believe we only have 200k left .... its not even 2 minimum salary spots ... dunno if proshenko has done some rounding there

Look, we just need to sign him and go over a bit .... call it a technical breach - teams do that every year .... "oh my goodness, how did that happen? Just a rounding problem. Its ok, our budget will include a calculator for 2020"
 

Twizzle

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I dont believe we only have 200k left .... its not even 2 minimum salary spots ... dunno if proshenko has done some rounding there

Look, we just need to sign him and go over a bit .... call it a technical breach - teams do that every year .... "oh my goodness, how did that happen? Just a rounding problem. Its ok, our budget will include a calculator for 2020"

I agree with you Strides but the problem is with the NRL scrutiny over our salary cap, I dont think they would approve an "oops"
 

84 Baby

Referee
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Can’t we just hire Hayne’s kid to do some club marketing? I’m sure that’d generate some goodwill with Jarryd
 

hineyrulz

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Eels hold out hope for Hayne amid plans for $4m war chest from 2020

Adrian Proszenko
8 November 2018 — 8:00pm

Jarryd Hayne may have given up on signing with Parramatta, but the club hasn’t given up signing him just yet.

The Eels are in a salary cap bind that has left them with just $200,000 to offer Hayne. However, that pain will be short lived, with the club in the process of overhauling its roster management to ensure it doesn’t squander the $4 million war chest it has to spend on players from 2020.

The Eels currently have no room to pay Hayne his market value because most of their cap is invested in big names Mitchell Moses, Corey Norman, Michael Jennings, Bevan French, Brad Takairangi and Clint Gutherson. All of those players are off contract and - with the exception of captain Gutherson - are unlikely to be offered new deals.

The blue and golds have only a dozen players contracted for 2020, giving them the cash and flexibility required to overhaul a squad that finished the 2018 season with the wooden spoon.

However, that is of little solace to Hayne, who has always indicated his desire to stay put but can’t do so until at least one contracted player moves on.

The two-time Dally M medallist has publicly stated he is resigned to not playing for Parramatta again, although Eels CEO Bernie Gurr hasn’t given up hope of squeezing him into the 2019 squad.

"We would revisit that, yes," Gurr told Fairfax Media. "It’s pretty common knowledge we are at the same place we’ve been for a couple of weeks.

"We need to free up some salary cap space to be anywhere near what Jarryd would want. That’s not happening at the moment. Nothing has really changed over the last month."

Asked how late the Eels would be prepared to wait to welcome Hayne back - the players began pre-season training last week - Gurr said: "That will be part of a broader decision.

"We have a couple of spots left on our roster at the lower end of the dollar value in the salary cap, so we may need to make some decisions in the new year about how we utilise those spots.

"That would have a direct bearing on whether there would be a spot and any dollars left for another player, someone such as Jarryd."

While a raft of big, back-ended deals has bent the club's cap out of shape, Eels officials have vowed not to repeat the mistakes of the past. New general manager of football Mark O’Neill is tasked with implementing the recommendations of an independent club review and putting together a new list-management strategy.

"We’re going to put a lot of thought into what our roster composition will be and how it dove-tails into a salary cap," Gurr said. "That’s about where we dedicate our money by position and by players. We’re looking at 2020 because we’ve got a number of players coming off contract at the end of 2019.

"We’re going to have some salary cap space and the ability to go to market from a roster point of view.

"We’re going to take a very reasoned and clinical approach about how we go about our roster strategy. The salary cap is about getting value for money and that’s what we’re going to try to do.

"Salary cap management and the roster management around it, you have to get that right. If you don’t, you’re going to struggle."
Just another wasted season. But don’t worry 2020 will be the season we promise.
 

hineyrulz

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Can’t we just hire Hayne’s kid to do some club marketing? I’m sure that’d generate some goodwill with Jarryd
Has Hayne got a relo who plays a bit of Park footy and we can squeeze him in the top 30??? Cough cough Mitchell’s fat brother cough cough.
 
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