Rumours and Stuff

[84 Baby]

He might, if he gets in to some of the shit Mark O'Neill has been smoking!!

So no then

 

[Gronk]

How did the Raiders (an entity in another constituency) get $4 million out of NSW Government then?

Because they have to share it with other sports and every other punter who walks past.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/th...of-excellence-in-braddon-20180602-p4zj2u.html

“Providing a state-of-the-art HQ for one of Canberra’s elite sporting teams, combined with new community facilities, in the heart of the city will enhance the area and provide new opportunities for Canberrans of all ages and abilities to get involved with the sport.

"In addition to this facility supporting rugby league programs in the ACT, it will also support the surrounding NSW region.

 

[Gronk]

Huh?

So because Newcastle were preparing to offer 300K+ a year for him a few months ago, we have to match that?? But it's OK for the Warriors to keep him on the books for 150K if he attracts no other offers??

Are you seriously suggesting our offer to him has been dictated by what the Knights offered?? Who told you this?? And if that is true, then we're even more stupid for bending over and making such allowances...

NRL: Knights coach Nathan Brown is keen to sign Issac Luke despite the Kiwi Test hooker facing shoulder surgery next week

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/...-despite-the-kiwi-test-hooker-facing-surgery/

 

[Eelogical]

He might, if he gets in to some of the shit Mark O'Neill has been smoking!!

I think Luke is another Whatmong. I also think we are going to cop quite a few beatings this year. I'd rather go with our current crop then be more patient and astute with our purchases when other options come on to the market.

 

[Incorrect]

NRL: Knights coach Nathan Brown is keen to sign Issac Luke despite the Kiwi Test hooker facing shoulder surgery next week

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/...-despite-the-kiwi-test-hooker-facing-surgery/

Thanks for the link....

But it sheds Zero light on what I was asking in response to your other post. All it illustrates is that the Knights were interested but decided not to pursue.

It doesn't suggest that the offer the Knights were considering putting forward will have to be matched by any other club thereafter if they are considering signing him. Nor does it suggest that the Knights have established his value at 300-350K a year.

I'm still none the wiser as to why we are offering him a 200K pay increase (550K when you consider no deal for 2020) for 2019 and you think its good/reasonable business.

 

[Eelogical]

The leaks still keep on coming out of Parra, eh? I thought they sorted that. If I were Mahoney, I'd be devastated to hear about how the club is looking elsewhere at this time of year for another hooker. My loyalty and commitment would be instantly compromised.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'd rather go for a stellar fullback, preferably one who can kick goals as well, and move Gutho back to the centres. It can't be helping Mahoney's confidence when the club is shopping his spot around a few weeks before the season opener.

His confidence? A few weeks ago he wasn't even on an NRL contract. He's not yet 21. He should be happy to share the hooking role with a 250 game veteran for a couple of years. It's not like he'd be playing first grade anywhere else.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Huh?

So because Newcastle were preparing to offer 300K+ a year for him a few months ago, we have to match that?? But it's OK for the Warriors to keep him on the books for 150K if he attracts no other offers??

Are you seriously suggesting our offer to him has been dictated by what the Knights offered?? Who told you this?? And if that is true, then we're even more stupid for bending over and making such allowances...

$300k+ is his value. If he signed for cheaper with the Warriors it was because he was already in NZ with his family (kids at school and shit), they already had a couple of dummy half options, and he was injured.

It's also worth noting that none of the figures reported are necessarily true, though they seem plausible to me. If he's recovered well from surgery then he's worth more than when he was injured with surgery pending.

 

[Gronk]

The leaks still keep on coming out of Parra, eh? I thought they sorted that. If I were Mahoney, I'd be devastated to hear about how the club is looking elsewhere at this time of year for another hooker. My loyalty and commitment would be instantly compromised.

Luke signed for the Warriors for 2019, after his 3 year deal expired. He signed in October when he went under the knife.

Apparently his recovery was much sooner than first thought, hence our interest.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/10/03/issac-luke-signs-2019-contract-with-warriors/

Mahoney has played what 6 or 7 games ? I reckon that Reed would be chuffed to share the rake roll in the 17 with Luke.

 

[Happy MEel]

Thanks for the link....

But it sheds Zero light on what I was asking in response to your other post. All it illustrates is that the Knights were interested but decided not to pursue.

It doesn't suggest that the offer the Knights were considering putting forward will have to be matched by any other club thereafter if they are considering signing him. Nor does it suggest that the Knights have established his value at 300-350K a year.

I'm still none the wiser as to why we are offering him a 200K pay increase (550K when you consider no deal for 2020) for 2019 and you think its good/reasonable business.

Hey mate, im merely speculating here, but perhaps there’s a threshold within the get-out clause requiring offers to be of a certain amount. If I’m the Warriors I would want some certainty that Luke doesn’t have the ability to leave if another club are offering the same or similar money.

 

[Incorrect]

$300k+ is his value. If he signed for cheaper with the Warriors it was because he was already in NZ with his family (kids at school and shit), they already had a couple of dummy half options, and he was injured.

It's also worth noting that none of the figures reported are necessarily true, though they seem plausible to me. If he's recovered well from surgery then he's worth more than when he was injured with surgery pending.

Yeah righto...

 

[Incorrect]

Hey mate, im merely speculating here, but perhaps there’s a threshold within the get-out clause requiring offers to be of a certain amount. If I’m the Warriors I would want some certainty that Luke doesn’t have the ability to leave if another club are offering the same or similar money.

Perhaps.

That's a plausible explanation and something more realistic than the "it's a great deal deathriders, just STFU and accept the fact we've made another masterstroke signing" some people would present to us...

 

[Eelogical]

His confidence? A few weeks ago he wasn't even on an NRL contract. He's not yet 21. He should be happy to share the hooking role with a 250 game veteran for a couple of years. It's not like he'd be playing first grade anywhere else.

He should be saying "I'm more than good enough and why are you idiots looking at a 31 yo half broken Kiwi over me?".

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Perhaps.

That's a plausible explanation and something more realistic than the "it's a great deal deathriders, just STFU and accept the fact we've made another masterstroke signing" some people would present to us...

For what it's worth, I suspect we'd have to pay more than he's worth to get him. But bringing him in for slight overs is a better use of our cap than not signing anyone for 2019. We'll win more games with him than without him.

 

[Eelogical]

For what it's worth, I suspect we'd have to pay more than he's worth to get him. But bringing him in for slight overs is a better use of our cap than not signing anyone for 2019. We'll win more games with him than without him.

How many games you reckon?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

He should be saying "I'm more than good enough and why are you idiots looking at a 31 yo half broken Kiwi over me?".

But he's not more than good enough. This is only his first season ineligible for Flegg, and he has won four NRL games in his life. He has got hundreds of shit decisions in front of him before he could be called a first grader.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

How many games you reckon?

An extra 25% I reckon.

 

[Eelogical]

But he's not more than good enough. This is only his first season ineligible for Flegg, and he has won four NRL games in his life. He has got hundreds of shit decisions in front of him before he could be called a first grader.

That's all well and good. I don't see us making the 8, so why throw your granny's poker machine money away on a beat up 'has been'? It's about time we started thinking a whole lot smarter if we want to go places in the NRL.

 

[Bazal]

Perhaps.

That's a plausible explanation and something more realistic than the "it's a great deal deathriders, just STFU and accept the fact we've made another masterstroke signing" some people would present to us...

Lol. Literally no one has said that, have they?

Anyway the fact that the Warriors managed to sign a bloke for well under his value doesn't mean that he'll uproot his family and head to another country for an extra 20k...

Luke is worth around 300k odd for sure. Given hooker is our weakest position it's stands to reason we'd be more desperate than some others and willing to pay a bit more.

 

[hineyrulz]

An extra 25% I reckon.

It will be very exciting!!