Rumours and Stuff

[Matty Bhoy]

From Clarkey’s NRL column on Facebook... so take with a grain of salt:

https://www.facebook.com/clarkeys.nrl.column/


New Zealand Warriors CEO Cameron George has confirmed the club has made a verbal agreement that Isaac Luke will remain a Warrior in 2019. The announcement was made pre-game at the Warriors ISP sides trial against Western Suburbs.

Crazy rumour but I've been told the Parramatta Eels were never interested in Isaac Luke. They were playing games with the Warriors forcing them to use more cap space. The 2 clubs are currently engaged in a feud that began when the Warriors reportedly approached rookie Dylan Brown who is under contract at the Eels.

 

[strider]

we are playing games driving up the price of every hooker in the nrl

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Commentator on the Warriors vs Magpies ISP game just mentioned that Luke has come to an agreement with the Warriors as well.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Do you honestly think that is the issue???

I know you don't, so don't use a Pou style argument.

It’s actually a logical conclusion to this. To avoid all risk players would have to avoid sexual contact with women.

The fact is, players take risks every time they approach a woman, no different from any other man. If they’re willing to take that risk (and approaching women for sex isn’t against any code of conduct that we know of) then they find themselves on a risk continuum, with “Hi I’m JDB” at one end and either rape or post-gangbang regret at the other end. Most players will never run foul of the new rule, and De Belin himself might not have either if he’d picked a different chick to f**k that night.

Risk is an inherent part of life, as are miscalculations, bad luck, and accusations of non-consensual sex. If you want to avoid all risk (as nitwit footy fans seem to think is desirable) then don’t even try to have sex. It’s simple.

But I suspect 100% of NRL players will see the JDB case as an avoidable edge case, and continue with maybe a bit more caution than before.

 

[Noise]

we are playing games driving up the price of every hooker in the nrl

And will still at times end up with Will Smith playing dummy half.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Doesn't it depend on what the code of conduct is?!?

I dont happen to have a copy. But the players and NRL do!
They don't need to even do anything illegal to break a code of conduct. It is just to do things they have been told they cannot do. if they get stood down for that, all good. If getting charged (or putting oneself in a position to get charged) is a no go, then they should get stood down, right?

Didn't the Chooks have a 'no booze' policy during last season? It would be fair of them to stand someone down for having just one shandy at a backyard bbq.
If a code of conduct says you need to maintain an upright public profile,then yes,.by nature of being charged (guilty or not) you could be stood down

The Chooks may have had a no booze policy at some point but so what? I don't believe the Dragons do and I'm sure the NRL doesn't as a whole. So I don't know what code of conduct you think he has broken.

 

[T.S Quint]

Blake Ferguson did.

Give him time.
He’s just become an Eels player. Of course he will slip up again soon.

 

[Eelogical]

It’s actually a logical conclusion to this. To avoid all risk players would have to avoid sexual contact with women.

The fact is, players take risks every time they approach a woman, no different from any other man. If they’re willing to take that risk (and approaching women for sex isn’t against any code of conduct that we know of) then they find themselves on a risk continuum, with “Hi I’m JDB” at one end and either rape or post-gangbang regret at the other end. Most players will never run foul of the new rule, and De Belin himself might not have either if he’d picked a different chick to f**k that night.

Risk is an inherent part of life, as are miscalculations, bad luck, and accusations of non-consensual sex. If you want to avoid all risk (as nitwit footy fans seem to think is desirable) then don’t even try to have sex. It’s simple.

But I suspect 100% of NRL players will see the JDB case as an avoidable edge case, and continue with maybe a bit more caution than before.

Ahh...........the praying mantis syndrome. They could learn a lot from the male mantis's sex life.

 

[strider]

The Chooks may have had a no booze policy at some point but so what? I don't believe the Dragons do and I'm sure the NRL doesn't as a whole. So I don't know what code of conduct you think he has broken.

Dont have a rough gang bang unless people are into it ... allegedly

Regardless of any trial results that make some determination one way or the other whether it was consentual (and lets be honest only 3 people will ever really know - if they remember), its still very risky behaviour if you want to protect your half a million+ a year income

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Dont have a rough gang bang unless people are into it ... allegedly

Regardless of any trial results that make some determination one way or the other whether it was consentual (and lets be honest only 3 people will ever really know - if they remember), its still very risky behaviour if you want to protect your half a million+ a year income

But it's yet to be determined if he did. So people are saying it's OK to punish people who might have done something wrong. But anyone and everyone might have done something wrong.

 

[Happy MEel]

It’s actually a logical conclusion to this. To avoid all risk players would have to avoid sexual contact with women.

The fact is, players take risks every time they approach a woman, no different from any other man. If they’re willing to take that risk (and approaching women for sex isn’t against any code of conduct that we know of) then they find themselves on a risk continuum, with “Hi I’m JDB” at one end and either rape or post-gangbang regret at the other end. Most players will never run foul of the new rule, and De Belin himself might not have either if he’d picked a different chick to f**k that night.

Risk is an inherent part of life, as are miscalculations, bad luck, and accusations of non-consensual sex. If you want to avoid all risk (as nitwit footy fans seem to think is desirable) then don’t even try to have sex. It’s simple.

But I suspect 100% of NRL players will see the JDB case as an avoidable edge case, and continue with maybe a bit more caution than before.

Spot on Pou.

 

[Happy MEel]

But it's yet to be determined if he did. So people are saying it's OK to punish people who might have done something wrong. But anyone and everyone might have done something wrong.

But not everyone has been charged with sexual assault. That is the threshold.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

But not everyone has been charged with sexual assault. That is the threshold.

And a few days ago the threshold was being convicted of a crime, which made a lot more sense because it only punishes the guilty.

 

[Noise]

But not everyone has been charged with sexual assault. That is the threshold.

Either was Dylan Walker

 

[Noise]

Amazing that when Semi was charged every merkin here was banging on about innocent until proven guilty. Everyone here was happy for him to continue playing.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

And a few days ago the threshold was being convicted of a crime, which made a lot more sense because it only punishes the guilty.

It's not about punishing the guilty though is it? That's for the courts (in the case of criminal acts) and the NRL judiciary (for the case of rule breaches). This whole thing is about brand protection. The NRL and everyone involved in it want to make more money, and players even being accused of crimes is very bad for business.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Amazing that when Semi was charged every merkin here was banging on about innocent until proven guilty. Everyone here was happy for him to continue playing.

Is it really amazing? There are reasons for and against the player being stood down prior to a verdict. It's not cut and dried. Fans of the player would be focusing on the reasons he should be allowed to play while everyone else would focus on the reasons against.

No different to how fans of a shit club will focus on the positives of the club's fortunes while rival fans and death riders will focus on the negatives.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

It's not about punishing the guilty though is it? That's for the courts (in the case of criminal acts) and the NRL judiciary (for the case of rule breaches). This whole thing is about brand protection. The NRL and everyone involved in it want to make more money, and players even being accused of crimes is very bad for business.

I agree that it's not about punishing the guilty but it's not just about brand protection. It also provides a bit of good PR but that is momentary. And I don't think it's an effective strategy to protect the brand. Anyone who commits the alleged crime in this case will lose their job anyway, and spend time in prison. That's the real deterrent. Being stood down before your trial is nothing next to that.

 

[Noise]

Is it really amazing? There are reasons for and against the player being stood down prior to a verdict. It's not cut and dried. Fans of the player would be focusing on the reasons he should be allowed to play while everyone else would focus on the reasons against.

No different to how fans of a shit club will focus on the positives of the club's fortunes while rival fans and death riders will focus on the negatives.

‘Amazing’ was sarcastic. It’s obvious that when semi was charged everyone here jumped to his defense and wanted him to play because he played for Parra. But when a dragon or manly player is charged those same people change their tune and want them out and no longer care about innocent until proven guilty - the same thing they all cried out a few years ago. Hypocrisy

 

[Gazzamatta]

Amazing that when Semi was charged every merkin here was banging on about innocent until proven guilty. Everyone here was happy for him to continue playing.

Semi copped it very badly in the media. Todd even took his Aussie Jumper off him. The footy show chick blasted Semis reputation from the roof tops. Much of this contributed to Semi being lost to our game. I believe Semi was innocent.