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Was Frisky Lad as fast as Repco Lad or Gay Akubra?

Only with a pink lure.

But I spent many hours buffing the hubcaps on Kolkys dog trailer.

The contraption featured air conditioning, paw operated drinks cabinet and a film projector that would feature Lassie and Cujo re-runs on long trips.

Cleaning the ashtrays was always a nasty business.
 
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Poupou Escobar

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It’s like we sat back and said look here’s a player on a minimal contract. Let’s sit back and do nothing instead of trying to tie him up before we have to pay a premium when he establishes himself as one of the elite forwards of the game. Compare that to the Roosters who put Sam Walker under lock and key back in May instead of “waiting to see if he proves himself” or whatever other mental gymnastics the “we’ll easily find another Papali’i” crowd wants to say.
Like we did with Penisini? Papali'i had obviously proved nothing back when you experts were calling for him to be upgraded. Actually, no you weren't. Because you had only just stopped criticising the signing.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I half expected that to be interpreted as acceptance of being behind them ongoing, but it's not. It's acceptance that that is the current status quo, and there's simply no denying it.

We can't expect to be in the same position as the likes of the Roosters now, because we are not, we can expect only that we will improve our processes and position to the point where we equal them, and perhaps in doing so they drop down a peg or two, in which case then we might well get ahead of them.

Hence my use of the phrase "at this point in history". Let's not kid ourselves, these things take time, we were a f**king basket case not so long ago, and there have been times when the Roosters have been as well. They didn't become the organisation they are overnight, and if we are ever to become that strong it will also take time.

I think it's pretty clear we are getting there as a club, and as fans I think we should accept that regardless of the process, getting there will take time.
We are definitely getting there, but you are 100% correct that it takes time. It certainly won't hinge on a single knee-jerk retention decision. I'm still not convinced any of these players we've lost will play to the same standard at their new clubs in 2023.
 

emjaycee

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I like Papali'i and would have liked us to keep him however as a club we haven't really made too many wrong recruitment or retention decisions in the last 2-3 years IMO.

Club stalwarts like Moeroa and Alvaro were let go and we replaced them and improved our squad. The year before we signed Papali'i we finished top 4. With him we finished 6th. In both years we didn't progress past week 2 of the finals.

Not sure he is the messiah.
One player doesn't determine the results of 25 rounds of football. Not slitting wrist just yet.

And Merry Xmas merkins.
 

lucablight

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Like we did with Penisini? Papali'i had obviously proved nothing back when you experts were calling for him to be upgraded. Actually, no you weren't. Because you had only just stopped criticising the signing.
Penisini wasn’t carving up as part of the first grade squad like Papali’i or Sam Walker were at the time he was re-signed. I don’t understand your position either. Are you saying we should re-sign players early or not? If we should wait until they’ve proven they didn’t fluke half a season then the “experts” at the Eels shouldn’t have re-signed Penisini and the Roosters shouldn’t have re-signed Sam Walker and should have waited until they’d proven themselves at the end of their second season.
 

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I, too, like Papali'i - but I just don't think he's irreplaceable.

I think our starting props are more important to how we play.

I'm more disappointed that we lost Mahoney; however, signing Hodgson to mentor Hands, and Yates, was a smart move.

I'm also disappointed to hear that we won't be offering Matterson a new deal.
 
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I, too, like Papali'i - but I just don't think he's irreplaceable.

I think our starting props are more important to how we play.

I'm more disappointed that we lost Mahoney; however, signing Hodgson to mentor Hands, and Yates, was a smart move.

I'm also disappointed to hear that we won't be offering Matterson a new deal.

Ryan “ don’t you know who I am” Matterson. He had a garbage season by his own standards, did himself no favours.

Bea is a tough bastard. He was meant to reach optimum and become a man.

Go hard or go home Matts.

He’s not fit to wear the jersey, lazy creep.
 
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hindy111

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Like we did with Penisini? Papali'i had obviously proved nothing back when you experts were calling for him to be upgraded. Actually, no you weren't. Because you had only just stopped criticising the signing.

Hindy111 called it the best debut he has ever seen and to lock him up long term.
f**king rabbit
 

Poupou Escobar

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I like Papali'i and would have liked us to keep him however as a club we haven't really made too many wrong recruitment or retention decisions in the last 2-3 years IMO.

Club stalwarts like Moeroa and Alvaro were let go and we replaced them and improved our squad. The year before we signed Papali'i we finished top 4. With him we finished 6th. In both years we didn't progress past week 2 of the finals.

Not sure he is the messiah.
One player doesn't determine the results of 25 rounds of football. Not slitting wrist just yet.

And Merry Xmas merkins.
He has good power and footwork, so if he's in your team you have to use him, but he also benefited from being in our team. Most of his runs were against retreating/isolated defenders, especially when he played out wide. But there's a reason he moved back to the middle, and that reason is his poor edge defence.
 

Noise

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He has good power and footwork, so if he's in your team you have to use him, but he also benefited from being in our team. Most of his runs were against retreating/isolated defenders, especially when he played out wide. But there's a reason he moved back to the middle, and that reason is his poor edge defence.
Was his defence poor on the edge? I seem to recall our left edge defence being quite good. We certainly won a lot of games when he was on the edge.
 

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