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hindy111

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So when the Bulldogs improve after sacking their coach it’s purely because they’re playing poor defensive sides but when we lose against teams at the bottom of the ladder it’s because we’re just not that good.
?????

They've had a very soft run. Under Barrett they beat the Roosters and Cowboys. Lost to Brisbane by 4 and Manly by 1.
They actusaly where competitive in most games bar one against the Storm.
Even the 2nd time Brisbane smashed them it was more 3 tries late by Broncos.
 

IFR33K

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So going into last night's game Brisbane were not considered premiership material despite running 5th at the time? Ok then.

And you need to lighten up a bit. I wasnt defending 9 years of failure mate, simply having a dig at those posters on here who hang their every comment for every loss onto the coach and don't recognise the fact that lots of things go into winning a game of football. And yes, whilst the buck stops with the coach (as it should), there are also things outside of his control that can result in a loss or in the players not turning up and performing how we would expect and want.

Does that need to change? Yes.
Does it mean BA has to go? Probably.

Everyone on here knows some posters dont want BA here, we get it, we got it in round 2 FFS. The histrionics, the single-focus and the repetativeness of some posters is simply getting to be a bit over the top. And it isn't actually funny anymore but I guess it makes them feel good about themselves.


probably = give him a 9 year extension
 

Legal Eel

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How we left it to the final hour to sign a player from a club that still has finals aspirations is beyond me. There are so many players that we could have looked at for a loan only situation from clubs that have no chance of making the 8 and made a deal with that club if need be. A kind of quid pro quo situation that you lend us your quality player now and in the future lend you one of our quality players if we are out of finals contention and you have a shot or even a Harry Grant/Tigers type of scenario.

I kind of hinted at it a few months back when I suggested we look at signing Semi for a cameo just before the Aug 1 deadline but Gronk swooped in on me like the rabies infected bat that he is and wrongly shut me down telling me that August 1 was a one off due to covid and won't be happening again. But as usual the bonehead had no idea.

It may sound crazy, but I hear that this August 1 late signing deadline is here to stay, so you watch how all the smart clubs are going to start work out ways going forward to get at least one or two top flight players into their roster and really bump up their chances.

We should have been way more pro active on this, I have been waiting and watching this space for a couple of months hoping we would somehow be smarter then they other clubs for once and announce a star signing right at the death of the deadline and stun our opponents. But all we have done is taken a half arsed shot at a sort of good signing in Tapau who is playing for a club that would be stupid to let him go considering their position.

If the Storm somehow swoop in under our noses and nab him then we are an absolute useless joke of a club. I mean these overtures should have been in the works for at least a month or two. We should have made a short list of our preferred targets and what we can afford, I'm presuming we have around up to $200K free to spend and therefore a player who is normally valued at around $700-800K in August 1 would be affordable and our $200K would be enough to secure him for the rest of the season.

I mean look at the endless options of forwards we could have made a play at -

Adin Fonua-Blake
Bunty Afoa
Tohu Harris
Jarrod Wallace
Tino Fa'asuamaleaui
Klema Tuilagi
Raymond Faitala-Mariner
Tavita Pangai Junior
Daniel Saifiti
Jacob Saifiti
David Klemmer
Mat Croker
Mitchell Barnett
Tyson Frizell

I went with mostly experienced players so as they are proven and would not be over oared in the big games and will relish having a chance to play finals again where it was only a dream prior to our offer. Also I am focussing on forwards because I think that we are getting out muscled to often when we aren't primed for a big game and keep losing the ruck to often. Obviously my wet dream preference out of that lot would be Tino, who is brilliant on or off the ball, but anyone of them would give us a massive injection of quality and bolster our bench significantly.

But instead of our clubs brains trust turning no stone unturned, what do they do? Have a shot at a player that his current club will want to keep for obvious reasons. We should have been working on possible loan style players and whispering sweet lovelies into their ears ages ago. One at least would have jumped at the idea of playing with a formidable pack and a genuine shot at a title opportunity out of the blue when all was lost for his regular club weeks ago.

Oh well what else can I say. The apologists will no doubt make the typical and predictable excuses as to why we didn't or that no club would be willing to release a quality player on loan to us, but that is just nonsense. There is an upside to both parties(salary cap relief for them) and then if the player becomes upset with his current club for denying him the opportunity, especially if he misses out and sees another player get that same opportunity and wins a GF, it may cause major discontent and disharmony for those two parties down the tract. It would actually be in the targeted players current club's best interest to loan the player out and we could exploit this situation if we were smart enough, but obviously we are not.

As for who I would have in for Moses injury? 1 Russell, 6 Gutho and 7 Brown as I have mentioned in more detail in my previous post.

Just my thoughts.
Have to say that my preferred option is also Russell at the back, with Gutho and Dylan in the halves.

I think most people with football nous would think similarly.

I realize the kicking game will be a bit short - but having watched the lower grades i don’t think Jake offers much more in the kicking department…and certainly not enough more to overdone the weaknesses on other areas and ponderous play
 

lucablight

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Well to judge that we would need to compare the assumptions made for each hypothesis. Unless, like most f**ken idiots, you think Occam's Razor is whatever supports your argument?
You didn’t answer the question. What does Occam’s razor tell you?
I don’t think we should sack the coach this season if that’s what you’re getting at regarding what “supports my argument”. Does the example demonstrate my belief that the coach has a tangible effect on how the team plays? I think it does.
 

lucablight

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They've had a very soft run. Under Barrett they beat the Roosters and Cowboys. Lost to Brisbane by 4 and Manly by 1.
They actusaly where competitive in most games bar one against the Storm.
Even the 2nd time Brisbane smashed them it was more 3 tries late by Broncos.
You can only play what’s in front of you no?
 

hindy111

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You can only play what’s in front of you no?

Well as I said under Barrett they lost many game by 10 points. Not blown out.
As season went on they also probably gelled a little. But also got to play the 3 weakest sides in comp. The Sharks in Extremely wet conditions. Souths without Cook or Murray.

Yes they flogged us. But they beat better sides earlier in the year.
 

lucablight

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Well as I said under Barrett they lost many game by 10 points. Not blown out.
As season went on they also probably gelled a little. But also got to play the 3 weakest sides in comp. The Sharks in Extremely wet conditions. Souths without Cook or Murray.

Yes they flogged us. But they beat better sides earlier in the year.
You could be right. Regardless of them beating weaker sides now they’re scoring more points which they weren’t doing against even lower ranked opposition before.
 

IFR33K

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I am a Caseworker in the disability field, and this morning I attended a match of one of my clients at memorial Ave, where our team trains, a couple of my clients spoke to Reed Mahoney and asked if they could possibly sign a couple of autographs and even watch them play for a couple of minutes, Mahoney promised both, the to my disappointment no one bothered to do either, and to make thing worse as soon as the Wenty game was over (try time competition) I noticed the Parra boys scurrying back inside….these boys idiolise this mob and attend most of their matches, I was actually quite disappointed they didn’t have 5 minutes, one of the parents made a complaint to Joey Grima, pretty low brow shit if u ask me, says plenty about our coach and leadership


not good. Maybe there wasn’t cameras around to show they’re supporting.
 

hineyrulz

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It has been pretty obvious since Potter took over from Barrett that the Dogs attack has completely changed. They were playing a very conservative style under Barrett, trying to grind a victory which was never going to work.

If nothing else I think the Dogs improvement shows that new ideas and a fresh voice can turn things around. There's obviously a question mark on whether it's sustainable long term but for now they look like they're enjoying a bit of freedom and change of tack...
Coaching doesn’t make a difference at all.
 

IFR33K

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Pou I would suggest watching Arthur off the ball defensively.

You'll see how poor he is in terms of making a read and decision. It doesn't count as a missed tackle when he is in completely the wrong place.
I think his defence is better than his kicking game though... it is poor.

I'd prefer Gutho at half back to fill in and play Russell or Perham at FB the next month- good chance to give Russell some FB experience, for mine he is the best wing option in the club right now, and possibly a decent FB option in the future


you don’t post often, ol mate. But you’re all quality
 

hindy111

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Coaching doesn’t make a difference at all.


Im just a stating the Dogs season. They had some good wins also under Barrett. Two of three of their best wins of the season come under him. They had ben competitive in most games.
Beating Knights without Ponga, Tigers and Tirans isn't that great.
 

hineyrulz

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Im just a stating the Dogs season. They had some good wins also under Barrett. Two of three of their best wins of the season come under him. They had ben competitive in most games.
Beating Knights without Ponga, Tigers and Tirans isn't that great.
Beating us isn’t that great either to be fair, carry on.
 

hindy111

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Beating us isn’t that great either to be fair, carry on.

It's also easier to win when no pressure. Look at the Tigers now, Nothing to play for and just throw it around and take high risks.
The entertainer's come out. You see the same shit every season. A weak side starts to play free flowing footy and get a few upsets.
 

hineyrulz

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It's also easier to win when no pressure. Look at the Tigers now, Nothing to play for and just throw it around and take high risks.
The entertainer's come out. You see the same shit every season. A weak side starts to play free flowing footy and get a few upsets.
That’s true but their attack has been transformed, Barrett had them playing structured boring footy that wouldn’t beat anyone. It’s light and day to what they are offering.
 

Gronk

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Pou I would suggest watching Arthur off the ball defensively.

You'll see how poor he is in terms of making a read and decision. It doesn't count as a missed tackle when he is in completely the wrong place.
I think his defence is better than his kicking game though... it is poor.

I'd prefer Gutho at half back to fill in and play Russell or Perham at FB the next month- good chance to give Russell some FB experience, for mine he is the best wing option in the club right now, and possibly a decent FB option in the future
Now do Sam Walker.

Not comparing. Just saying.
 

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