Rumours and Stuff

[Poupou Escobar]

But you explicitly state that Dylan will now likely leave. Why is that? Maybe we've spent less on second-rowers so we can spend more on halves? Or the money we have currently allocated to outside backs in '23 we've allocated to spending more on halves from '24 onwards? Why is it that you've pointed out Dylan? Maybe Sivo/Blake will leave? Maybe Simonsson won't take up his option?

Because there would be huge demand for Dylan Brown, meaning it would require a significantly larger part of the cap to keep him than it would for Sivo or Blake. Guys like Drown aren’t really competing for a contract/roster position with guys like Waqa Blake, who are a dime a dozen. Drown is competing with the likes of Gutherson and Moses.

 

[Eelementary]

Interesting stats

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Interesting stats

Tells me Tommy is a superstar.and the sort of merkin that could win you a grand final, if you're lucky enough to have him fit on that day.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Because there would be huge demand for Dylan Brown, meaning it would require a significantly larger part of the cap to keep him than it would for Sivo or Blake. Guys like Drown aren’t really competing for a contract/roster position with guys like Waqa Blake, who are a dime a dozen. Drown is competing with the likes of Gutherson and Moses.

He is but I also think his appeal to other teams has been a bit overstated by some here. He's not been or at least seen as a leading half and so I think we might keep both.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think it’s possible we’ll keep both, and I certainly hope we do. I just think it’s unlikely.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

I think it’s possible we’ll keep both, and I certainly hope we do. I just think it’s unlikely.

I think it's the most likely outcome, but not by much.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

The funnest thing is we'll never know how likely it was!

 

[JokerEel]

I saw media that said hes train and trial at The Eels. Wouldnt surprise though. Deserves a solid chance. Not sure it would happen at Our Eels.View attachment 68803

Saw him training in Roosters gear in a photo today. Good luck to him he is better than Toni M

 

[Happy MEel]

Because there would be huge demand for Dylan Brown, meaning it would require a significantly larger part of the cap to keep him than it would for Sivo or Blake. Guys like Drown aren’t really competing for a contract/roster position with guys like Waqa Blake, who are a dime a dozen. Drown is competing with the likes of Gutherson and Moses.

That’s true, but I reckon we’re already paying Drown 700k next year. Sivo and Blake are both costing us plenty. If we decide to invest less in their positions from 2024 onwards then that cap space can go to our halves. I think it’s a much better investment.

I agree with IALB. I reckon we’re sightly favourites to secure both. Drown would be taking massive risk to be the dominant half in an unknown entity (and probably a bottom 8 side for a while). What’s his value going to be when he comes off contract there? Another wasted talent like Shaun Johnson if you ask me. He could be anything with us.

Kenny and Sterlo…Moses and Drown. Rolls off the tongue.

 

[Eelementary]

Tells me Tommy is a superstar.and the sort of merkin that could win you a grand final, if you're lucky enough to have him fit on that day.

It also tells me that Gutherson plays more games per season than any other fullback, and his try-scoring record rivals the best in the business.

 

[Eelementary]

Saw him training in Roosters gear in a photo today. Good luck to him he is better than Toni M

Eli is a workhorse (and a bloody good one, imo).

Mataele is more of an impact style of forward - quality, over quantity.

I'm disappointed we never have Eli a go.

 

[Eelementary]

That’s true, but I reckon we’re already paying Drown 700k next year. Sivo and Blake are both costing us plenty. If we decide to invest less in their positions from 2024 onwards then that cap space can go to our halves. I think it’s a much better investment.

I agree with IALB. I reckon we’re sightly favourites to secure both. Drown would be taking massive risk to be the dominant half in an unknown entity (and probably a bottom 8 side for a while). What’s his value going to be when he comes off contract there? Another wasted talent like Shaun Johnson if you ask me. He could be anything with us.

Kenny and Sterlo…Moses and Drown. Rolls off the tongue.

I did find it curious that Brad singled out our props for playing big minutes, because they're on big contracts.

I don't disagree with that, but I think he needs to do the same thing with regards to Sivo, and Blake - Sivo isn't involved enough, and Blake isn't really giving us bang for our buck.

Over to you, Brad.

 

[the phantom menace]

He certainly has Sivo and Blake playing big minutes already... all fricking 80 minutes

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Eli is a workhorse (and a bloody good one, imo).

Mataele is more of an impact style of forward - quality, over quantity.

I'm disappointed we never have Eli a go.

We've had some good second-rowers in the time he's been here: Lane, Matterson, Papali'i. And we like to play them for 80 minutes.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

Saw him training in Roosters gear in a photo today. Good luck to him he is better than Toni M

He's also 3-4 years older. Toni is in his 2nd pre-season, he also was injured during his 1st.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

I did find it curious that Brad singled out our props for playing big minutes, because they're on big contracts.

I don't disagree with that, but I think he needs to do the same thing with regards to Sivo, and Blake - Sivo isn't involved enough, and Blake isn't really giving us bang for our buck.

Over to you, Brad.

He may single them out by not agreeing to offer them new contracts. He probably agreed to offer Reg and Paulo the contracts they're on and trusts them to play "big minutes"

 

[Cloeel]

I think it’s possible we’ll keep both, and I certainly hope we do. I just think it’s unlikely.

Yep definitely possible.

The question is which areas will we be weakening and to what extent will it impact us in the future?

 

[Eelementary]

We've had some good second-rowers in the time he's been here: Lane, Matterson, Papali'i. And we like to play them for 80 minutes.

That's true.

We probably could have given Lane a break, and given El-Zakhem a go, though.

But que será, será.

 

[Eelementary]

He may single them out by not agreeing to offer them new contracts. He probably agreed to offer Reg and Paulo the contracts they're on and trusts them to play "big minutes"

I think it was the right call to say that, tbh.

I think he needs to turn his attention to getting his big-dollar outside backs to pull their weight.

Sivo is deadly inside the 10m zone, and runs the ball back fairly well - but he just doesn't do it enough. And he's on good coin.

 

[Soren Lorenson]

Yep definitely possible.

The question is which areas will we be weakening and to what extent will it impact us in the future?

We've already weakened our back row, saved money in our front row rotation and paid less for our hooker haven't we?