Rumours and Stuff

[Tiger5150]

Just FYI - I will attempt to chase this comment and say "not true" as often as I can. I'm not a volume poster, so I appoint @Poupou Escobar to do so on my behalf.

I am sure your comment is not true, and I say this as someone who hopes you keep posting here and enlightening us/ having a laugh with us.

I strongly recommend you check your source.

Mate my source is correct and impeccable. I also don’t expect you to believe me, that’s fine. For your own processes though, as I’ve stated before, what do you think the Tigers motivation at THAT time?

im boring myself, can’t imagine how tedious for you merkins. That’s the truth. Believe or unbelieve the he’ll out of it.

 

[84 Baby]

I am not saying that

Are you sure about that?

 

[Tiger5150]

But if the Tigers were the ones that wanted him off their books as JO is stating and he didn't want to leave, the odds are in Parra's favour that they did get the Tigers to cover some of his salary over the 2 and a half seasons since he is on such a high amount for a player of his class mostly a benchy proposition. It only seems more plausible and logical.

ok, let’s assume that you are correct about Tigers wanting him off the books, in the “plausible and logical“ realm, why do you think that the Tigers let him go, mid season whilst we still need him, with no swap and no squad replacement from outside and during a period that Parra had an urgent shortage of middles?

 

[Tiger5150]

Are you sure about that?

No but I’m sure you will be happy to trawl through my previous posts and copy paste. Go back and check whether I have said that Joffa told me and report back to the class

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Correct, that is my whole point. Thanks for finally catching up. That something was Parra paying full freight but deal conditional on mid season.

But there was also something in it for Parra. There’s no benefit to us from paying Tigers prices for middle forwards. We already have f**ken plenty of those.

Most likely is that everyone had to compromise a bit. Tigers offered a payout, Parra signed a player they didn’t strictly need, and Ofahengaue agreed to leave the club he wanted to stay at (presumably because he was a bigwig there). In return for this compromise they each got something they wanted: Tigers freed up some cap space, Parra got a bargain first grader, and the player gets to play finals footy.

 

[Gazzamatta]

But there was also something in it for Parra. There’s no benefit to us from paying Tigers prices for middle forwards. We already have f**ken plenty of those.

Most likely is that everyone had to compromise a bit. Tigers offered a payout, Parra signed a player they didn’t strictly need, and Ofahengaue agreed to leave the club he wanted to stay at (presumably because he was a bigwig there). In return for this compromise they each got something they wanted: Tigers freed up some cap space, Parra got a bargain first grader, and the player gets to play finals footy.

Is it likely BA expected very little out of Emu and Oggy when forced to use them and set the Joffa (or Lodge) wheels in motion as a result . Only when Emu and Oggy proved their worth would Joffa become surplus. Maybe he should of looked in his own backward first?

 

[Delboy]

I didn’t want to enter into this rather who cares debate, like the Tiger poster, I do have some contacts in the club and can assure everyone that Parra are not paying Joe the supposedly $650k. The Tigpies are tipping in a reasonable amount as they wanted Joe O off their books to pursue another forward.

I’d hazard a guess that It’s Frizzell but don’t really know, anyway Joe O is not getting that large amount from the Eels , check your source as seems your are getting part of the story and what you want to believe is that the Tigers know what they are doing, which is questionable.

 

[Bandwagon]

Hunt will sit out the remaining 2 years of his contract on the sidelines and not get paid a red cent for breach of contract.

This is not an option.

If one party breaks a contract, the remedies available to the other party are subject to that same contract, they simply can't do whatever the f**k they like.

If Hunt sits out at the Dragons behest, they will pay for it.

Edit: I should re-phrase that, Hunt sitting out and not getting paid is not an option the Dragons can enforce, only Hunt could choose that course, but why the f**k would he, when he can just go through the motions of honoring his contract and collect his coin. Meanwhile the Dragons are left paying top dollar for a merkin who likely deserves to be playing in reggies.

 

[Happy MEel]

ok, let’s assume that you are correct about Tigers wanting him off the books, in the “plausible and logical“ realm, why do you think that the Tigers let him go, mid season whilst we still need him, with no swap and no squad replacement from outside and during a period that Parra had an urgent shortage of middles?

Salary cap relief (even half Joffa’s salary is a saving)
More $ for you to throw at Ice to keep him happy
Less $ for us to throw at ice to make him unhappy
Open up a top 30 spot.

All of these are incentives which don’t necessarily require us to pay his full salary.

What I choose to believe is that you heard that he won’t be missing any coin or will be paid his current full salary whilst he’s at Parra and you interpreted that as Parra paying full freight.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Is it likely BA expected very little out of Emu and Oggy when forced to use them and set the Joffa (or Lodge) wheels in motion as a result . Only when Emu and Oggy proved their worth would Joffa become surplus. Maybe he should of looked in his own backward first?

Those blokes had already started in first grade, months before we signed Ofahengaue. And in any case they are different players. He is a toiler while they are not. When possession goes against us both Greig and Ogden become liabilities. Like poor man’s Junior Paulos.

We needed defenders in our pack which is what Ofahengaue and Davey are. We also had cap space to spend. We were well placed to pick up a couple of bargains.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Those blokes had already started in first grade, months before we signed Ofahengaue. And in any case they are different players. He is a toiler while they are not. When possession goes against us both Greig and Ogden become liabilities. Like poor man’s Junior Paulos.

We needed defenders in our pack which is what Ofahengaue and Davey are. We also had cap space to spend. We were well placed to pick up a couple of bargains.

Maybe but "months before" is a stretch. Id suggest he and "his" recruitment team have been busy all year given weve never filled our top 30.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I didn’t want to enter into this rather who cares debate, like the Tiger poster, I do have some contacts in the club and can assure everyone that Parra are not paying Joe the supposedly $650k. The Tigpies are tipping in a reasonable amount as they wanted Joe O off their books to pursue another forward.

I’d hazard a guess that It’s Frizzell but don’t really know, anyway Joe O is not getting that large amount from the Eels , check your source as seems your are getting part of the story and what you want to believe is that the Tigers know what they are doing, which is questionable.

I applaud the Tigers for their move.

Picture yourself managing a club which had an older middle forward on 450k
Imagine also you had 3 younger guys who you preferred as starters (eg Pole, Twal and Utoikomanu) - would you (a) just suck up a few more years of older middle forward or (b) see if you could free up as close to 400k as possible to chase younger middles (which was a successful strategy in the past, ie Twal and Stefano)

With guys like Bateman and Klemmer also playing through the middle, the Tigers could use the savings to recruit in the areas of need.

Of course the scenario above is completely hypothetical, and speculative based on educated guesses and definitely no information.

 

[84 Baby]

No but I’m sure you will be happy to trawl through my previous posts and copy paste. Go back and check whether I have said that Joffa told me and report back to the class

Are you certain I copy and pasted your posts?

 

[emjaycee]

I applaud the Tigers for their move.

Picture yourself managing a club which had an older middle forward on 450k
Imagine also you had 3 younger guys who you preferred as starters (eg Pole, Twal and Utoikomanu) - would you (a) just suck up a few more years of older middle forward or (b) see if you could free up as close to 400k as possible to chase younger middles (which was a successful strategy in the past, ie Twal and Stefano)

With guys like Bateman and Klemmer also playing through the middle, the Tigers could use the savings to recruit in the areas of need.

Of course the scenario above is completely hypothetical, and speculative based on educated guesses and definitely no information.

Twal is 14 months younger than Joffa.

 

[Tiger5150]

I didn’t want to enter into this rather who cares debate, like the Tiger poster, I do have some contacts in the club and can assure everyone that Parra are not paying Joe the supposedly $650k. The Tigpies are tipping in a reasonable amount as they wanted Joe O off their books to pursue another forward.

I’d hazard a guess that It’s Frizzell but don’t really know, anyway Joe O is not getting that large amount from the Eels , check your source as seems your are getting part of the story and what you want to believe is that the Tigers know what they are doing, which is questionable.

Im getting bored, but just to help out.

You are wrong, but I dont expect anyone to take my word. How about following your own logic. The Tigers are tipping in, to push Joe O out.....midseason to pursue another forward, that we havent and arent signing? Does that make sense? We are under the cap this year anyway, there is no advantage to push out Joe O midseason. it would be a lot better for the Tigers to let Joe go at the end of the year. I cant believe people here cant follow that logic.

Parra needed middles THEN, made the offer, paying full freight but only if Tigers release midseason, Tigers release despite not signing anyone else or replacing him.

I actually do know what happened (dont expect anyone to believe me) but Im shocked that you guys actually think that the Tigers release a good player, midseason, for no benefit, because.....reasons?

 

[yy_cheng]

Mate all I said was that you weren't an Alpha. Women behave differently when it comes to alphas. Trust me what they say and do with them versus the rest of us are two totally different things. I know my initial post was short and somewhat disparaging at face value, but I didn't feel like expanding so I just made it short and to the point. But generally about 15-20% at most are considered Alphas and their lives are considerately different in regards to the way the opposite sex treat and behave towards them.

I have seen it countless of times and it just blows my mind at times. Girls/women that you would never ever think would be part of this or that or do this or that and yet as soon as the 'right' kind of man is involved, then all bets are off. It is insane what I have seen or been part of(not because I'm an alpha) but because I was part of a Alpha group of friends. I won't go into specifics other then to say it didn't matter what age(legal age of course) young or old, married or not, groupie or not, girl next door or whore barfly, if they see what they want they tend to go for it. Some overtly but the more proper and demure types just do it very quietly and on the sly.

They were the ones that initially shocked me. How many girls/women behave like nice normal innocent girlfriends that are loyal and faithful to their men and then wham my mates are nailing them like nobodies business. Then they act like nothing ever happened and if you didn't know the studs they just dropped their pants for or if I wasn't the intermediary that set it all up, you wouldn't have a clue as to what they are capable of getting up to. Women are just a hell of a lot more sneaky and secretive about what they do and who they let get in between their legs. Most of us don't have that pass that opens that part of them up.

As for all that other stuff you have posted. Sorry to hear it mate. I hope everything is going well for you now and so terribly sad and sorry about your wife. My condolences. On that score I am definitely not looking forward to what is coming my way.

All the best.

My point with women is, do they do it for the sex or do they do it for the attention and validation. I still think it is the latter. Women know what men want and know how to use what they have to get what they really want. (There is a time in their cycle though which actually makes them horny but the time period is less than when they are not)

It makes themselves more self assured (FALSELY) just because they are getting pipe from an alpha. However, little do they know is that men treat sex and love differently. Sex for men is a kin to a pleasurable piss. It doesnt mean much except a bodily function that needs to be fullfilled. However, women think that the alpha loves them because they made love to them and they want these men because they are better than what they have and hope to be able to jump ship. I still dont think they do it just for the sex.

Women are opportunistic. Their love for a man is conditional. When the man they have don't fulfill their requirements no more, they monkey branch and look for the next one. I am generalising as I have actually met some really good ones but few. Unconditionally love, they reserve for their offsprings.

Do women like a good lay? yes and many a girl have told me that. If the sex is no good, then they will only continue with the relationship if the man can PROVIDE well for them.

I totally agree that a woman's mind is sneakier and more secretive than a man's. Men are a bit more careless and men like to brag. Our intuition is also not as highly tuned as a woman's to identify subtle changes when their partner is cheating.

Women are less physically dominant than man, and over many many thousands of years, they have had to use their wits to stay alive and for their offsprings to stay alive. It is why they are so cunning.

Men, we just beat our chest and fight it out.


Mate, whatever is coming your way, just tackle it as another problem to solve. I maybe over simplifying it but treat is as another lawn to mow and get it done. Fretting, worrying adds negative emotions and it's not needed. Negative people and people who play victims are negative emotions and keep clear of them unless you can make sure they dont affect you or you are playing the part to help heal them.

Good Luck... I do enjoy reading your posts.

 

[DaveMc]

Im getting bored, but just to help out.

You are wrong, but I dont expect anyone to take my word. How about following your own logic. The Tigers are tipping in, to push Joe O out.....midseason to pursue another forward, that we havent and arent signing? Does that make sense? We are under the cap this year anyway, there is no advantage to push out Joe O midseason. it would be a lot better for the Tigers to let Joe go at the end of the year. I cant believe people here cant follow that logic.

Parra needed middles THEN, made the offer, paying full freight but only if Tigers release midseason, Tigers release despite not signing anyone else or replacing him.

I actually do know what happened (dont expect anyone to believe me) but Im shocked that you guys actually think that the Tigers release a good player, midseason, for no benefit, because.....reasons?

Pardon us for thinking the Tigers might make a questionable recruitment and retention decision

 

[Tiger5150]

Salary cap relief (even half Joffa’s salary is a saving)
More $ for you to throw at Ice to keep him happy
Less $ for us to throw at ice to make him unhappy
Open up a top 30 spot.

Dont need salary cap relief 2023, we need it 2024, 2025. We didnt and dont have anyone for that Top 30 spot and didnt need to open it.

All of these are incentives which don’t necessarily require us to pay his full salary.

So why midseason, at exactly the moment you guys are short of middles due to injury?

What I choose to believe is that you heard that he won’t be missing any coin or will be paid his current full salary whilst he’s at Parra and you interpreted that as Parra paying full freight.

i live in reality.

 

[Tiger5150]

I applaud the Tigers for their move.

Picture yourself managing a club which had an older middle forward on 450k

$650 for 2024, 2025.

Imagine also you had 3 younger guys who you preferred as starters (eg Pole, Twal and Utoikomanu) - would you (a) just suck up a few more years of older middle forward or (b) see if you could free up as close to 400k as possible to chase younger middles (which was a successful strategy in the past, ie Twal and Stefano)

With guys like Bateman and Klemmer also playing through the middle, the Tigers could use the savings to recruit in the areas of need.

Of course the scenario above is completely hypothetical, and speculative based on educated guesses and definitely no information.

All of this is completely logical and for the most part true..........

So why midseason, when Parra needed it?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Twal is 14 months younger than Joffa.

Yep, Ofahengaue has at least a couple of years left in his prime. He is 28 this year. Off contract at 30, which is younger than some of the forwards playing Origin this week.