Rumours and Stuff

[T-Boon]

Klopp is a winner.

Doesn't fit the Parra DNA.

I’d rather Nick Saban

 

[84 Baby]

Was Asi exposed that much last year to say he isn't a competent first grader. He can do a solid enough job if he is required. At least he looks dangerous and create scoring opportunities.

In 10 games he played we racked up 42 points in a half against the Dolphins, Won at Penrith, Beat Manly with Matto in the halves alongside him.

We won 5 and lost 4 when Asi was in the halves. That was a better win rate then the overall team last year.

I think he showed he was handy backup who would follow the role given him to best of his ability, but that he would also likely struggle to do that over an extended season plus (and they are related) be less able to adapt when a game goes against our game plan.
Even though I think Sanders is the more raw talented of them, he needs to prove himself at least as much as Asi, let alone as much as a regular 1st grade half. I’d hate to lose him but it’s not worth mortgaging our near future over. That said there was also rumour that Asi is likely going back to Cows, so Sanders in the Asi role is more palatable

 

[King-Gutho94]

I think he showed he was handy backup who would follow the role given him to best of his ability, but that he would also likely struggle to do that over an extended season plus (and they are related) be less able to adapt when a game goes against our game plan.
Even though I think Sanders is the more raw talented of them, he needs to prove himself at least as much as Asi, let alone as much as a regular 1st grade half. I’d hate to lose him but it’s not worth mortgaging our near future over. That said there was also rumour that Asi is likely going back to Cows, so Sanders in the Asi role is more palatable

Look we ain't winning the comp if Asi has to play 20 games in the halves.

I dont think he was that horrible last year. He was actually dangerous in a few games running the ball. He also has the utility value off the bench where he can play in the centres as well & possibly FB if required.

I was overseas for 2 months after the Dolphins win to the Roosters game i think in the 3rd last round so i did miss a bit of the freefall at the backend of the year.

But from what i saw in the snippets in that Broncos & Storm losses it looked like it all became too much for the team and they all through the towel in.

I dont think Asi can be blamed for that.

 

[TheCrowe]

Look we ain't winning the comp if Asi has to play 20 games in the halves.

I dont think he was that horrible last year. He was actually dangerous in a few games running the ball. He also has the utility value off the bench where he can play in the centres as well & possibly FB if required.

I was overseas for 2 months after the Dolphins win to the Roosters game i think in the 3rd last round so i did miss a bit of the freefall at the backend of the year.

But from what i saw in the snippets in that Broncos & Storm losses it looked like it all became too much for the team and they all through the towel in.

I dont think Asi can be blamed for that.

True. He generally played ok and a high percentage of his kicks were contested or found the ground.

 

[84 Baby]

True. He generally played ok and a high percentage of his kicks were contested or found the ground.

This was a stark difference last week between Asi & Sanders. Asi didn’t kick good or bad, but Sanders while his kicks were big, they were ineffectual at best, and at worst Schiller goes the length untouched. Which in a nutshell where those two players are at ATM

 

[TheCrowe]

This was a stark difference last week between Asi & Sanders. Asi didn’t kick good or bad, but Sanders while his kicks were big, they were ineffectual at best, and at worst Schiller goes the length untouched. Which in a nutshell where those two players are at ATM

Sanders kicking turned the game around in favour of the Raiders.

 

[Pazza]

you cant undersell the moses kicking game.

i just hope we can produce a more consistent kick chase.

 

[Parra Pride]

Most if not all of the 4 we lost with Asi in the halves, we had no RCG.
He is our difference maker.

RCG was the reason we even got to the Grand Final, he just decided we weren’t losing to the Cowboys.

 

[emjaycee]

It's never been about the kick.
It's always been about the chase.

 

[Obscene Assassin]

It's about the kick
And the Cheyse

 

[Avenger]

It’s about the kick and hang time in the air so the chase can be effective. That’s why nobody kicks for the sidelines anymore unless it’s a 40/20 attempt.

 

[Parra Pride]

It's about the kick
And the Cheyse

I honestly miss that merkin and his angry face.

 

[Eelementary]

I think Moses is the second best half back in the game at this point, the gap between him and Cleary is huge though. Until Moses can get that killer instinct in him he won’t ever come close really, I definitely could never see Moses doing what Cleary did in the Grand Final last year. That merkin just flipped switch in his head and refused to lose a game that already seemed lost.

Cleary is a phenomenal player. Absolutely unbelievable.

 

[Eelementary]

Cleary killed it in the last 20 minutes in the GF but for the first 60 minutes, Ezra and Reynolds were in control.
I dont think there is a massive gulf between Cleary and Moses. Id argue Moses D is better, he is faster and his kick is longer. He plays the short side better than anyone. Mitch is also required to do much more 1 on 1 defence usually on rampaging back rowers thanks to our ineffective defensive structure.
Cleary also plays behind a pack that totally controls the ruck and offers him massive protection, a luxury Mitch rarely has.
I reckon Moses has been every bit as effective as Cleary in Origin.
Fu*k Cleary. Love ya Mitch!

Conversely - when the game was well, and truly, over, Cleary stood up, and pried the Premiership out of Brisbane's cold, dead hands.

What he did in the last 20 minutes was nothing short of exceptional.

 

[lucablight]

Cleary is a phenomenal player. Absolutely unbelievable.

He’s good but I think he’s fortunate to be playing in the worst era of halfbacks for some time. Imagine what a prime Andrew Johns would do playing for the Panthers.

 

[JokerEel]

Asi is good in attack his defence is terrible though.

 

[lucablight]

Asi is good in attack his defence is terrible though.

It’s not up to first grade standard.

 

[TheCrowe]

Most halfbacks have to work on their defence when they come into NRL.

 

[Parra Pride]

Asi is good in attack his defence is terrible though.

Defence is secondary, you want halves who are dangerous in attack. Defence was about all Robson and Mortimer could do and it really showed how far that got us when Hayne didn’t show up in 2010. Brown is easily the best defensive half in the comp though, and when he has some confidence behind him the attack is there as well. Moses has gotten really good on the defensive end as well. We really just need them both to click and have a good year and the rest of the team will benefit from it.

 

[JokerEel]

Defence is secondary, you want halves who are dangerous in attack. Defence was about all Robson and Mortimer could do and it really showed how far that got us when Hayne didn’t show up in 2010. Brown is easily the best defensive half in the comp though, and when he has some confidence behind him the attack is there as well. Moses has gotten really good on the defensive end as well. We really just need them both to click and have a good year and the rest of the team will benefit from it.

Robson and Mortimer also played in grand finals Mortimer even won 1.

Defence isn't secondary as mentioned Moses was terrible in defence now one of the best in the halves.