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Eelementary

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Yeah some clubs and fans are happy to accept second best. We are one of those clubs. I personally will hit the f**king roof if Semi goes. This club has a complete inability to hold on to top quality players. They come and they go and we generally don't fight too hard to change that. Every top quality player we develop or bring to the joint pisses off under all sorts of circumstances. Hayne, Lyon, Foran, Semi - all internationals - in fact have we ever managed to keep an international quality player besides Hindmarsh in the last 20 years?

And before everyone starts with the Salary cap or health issues excuse - how many other clubs do you see this sort of continual exodus? None. We are generally shithouse at keeping a roster together.

We have managed to hold onto Moimoi and Cayless, to begin with.

One was a Kiwi regular, a d the other captained them to a World Cup victory.

Pretty handy imo.

I'd love to keep Semi, but if he doesn't want to stay...
 

hineyrulz

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Not taking sides but the pay rise didn't happen as clearly as you have reported.

The PLC membership voted against a pay rise for the PLC Directors in May 2014 which proposed to take the honorarium payment from $10k per director to $20k per director (and $60k for the Chairman) - a overall increase of $110k. At no point did the PLC Directors then approve themselves a pay rise after this was vetoed by members.
12 months later, the PNRL P/L Directors introduced for the first time an Honorarium being $15k for the Chairman and $10k for each Director - a total of $75k. There is no members of the PNRL P/L save the PLC itself so there wasn't a vote except at the Board Meeting.

Currently, the total amount paid to Directors in honorariums for being Directors of both PLC and PNRL is $135k although with less Directors this year, this will max out a lot less.

FYI - the Bulldogs Rugby League Club Directors get $144k shared + 9.5% Super payment.
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I've got no problem with them earning more money, and the club can afford it. As long as they earn that money, the last two lots of clowns didn't deserve a pie and a coke.
 

Gronk

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Captain Fogarty brings Bear essentials

Victorious Burleigh Bears captain Jamal Fogarty has revealed he initially rejected coach Jim Lenihan's request to skipper the team in 2016, telling his new mentor he didn't think it was his responsibility.

Fogarty had only just joined Burleigh after playing with Tweed Heads in the Intrust Super Cup while contracted to the Gold Coast Titans, but desperate to change the culture of the club Lenihan wouldn't take no for an answer.

The Bears will attempt to extend the Intrust Super Cup champions' record of three successive wins in the Intrust Super Championship on Sunday when they face off against the Intrust Super Premiership premiers from New South Wales in the Illawarra Cutters.

Parramatta-bound Fogarty will lead the team onto the ground which he will call home for at least the next two years but admitted it was a role he had to grow into after doubts whether his new teammates would respect his voice.

"Probably six weeks into pre-season he told me that he wanted me to be captain," Fogarty said of Lenihan's initial approach.

"I looked at him and said, 'I'm not being rude or anything but I've only been here six weeks, I don't think that's my responsibility'.

"He pretty much said that he didn't care how long I'd been at the club and that he wanted me to be their captain so I didn't really have a choice and just rolled with it.

"There are blokes like Louis [Fanene] who have been here five or six years and I thought they could have put their hand up but Jimmy thought something different.

"I just tried to rip in and tried to win every race and every competition that we did in the pre-season and put my body on the line for the boys in every game.

"Hopefully at the end of the year I've won the boys' respect."

Lenihan made the decision to appoint Fogarty and Jamie Dowling as co-captains following an abbreviated army camp in pre-season where Fogarty went a long way towards winning the trust of the Bears players.

"We did an army camp at the start of the year and we did a thing where you had to rate your mates and Jamie and Jamal were the two that stood out the most so we took them as the captains," Lenihan told NRL.com.

"No one has more seniority over the club. When you're asked to come and play at the football club we want people to buy in whether you've been here for 10 years or 10 minutes.

"It was the type of character we needed to get the job done and Jamal was someone that we needed.

"We needed a change. We struggled with leadership on the field. Off the field everyone was good mates but we needed people to tell other people when they weren't doing the right thing.

"It's easy to tell people they're doing good things but we needed to have a couple of people with enough character to tell people when it wasn't good enough."

In 25 games in the under-20s Fogarty scored 11 tries and a total of 141 points but after an injury-disrupted 2015 was told by the Titans he would not be offered a new contract.

With a young family to care for – and a second child on the way – the 22-year-old from Beaudesert supplemented his contract with Burleigh with torturous work as a concreter but mentally free of the pressures that come with an NRL contract.

With his big forwards struggling in the back-end against Redcliffe he piloted them home with precision and allowed Cameron Cullen to accept the plaudits, proving that he is now ready to make good on his potential at Parramatta.

"I've just learnt to love the game a little bit more and play like you did when you were a little kid," Fogarty said.

"I was kicking cans last year when I was a bit injured and couldn't string many games together but to come here with a bit of fresh air and to meet some wonderful boys... They're not even my mates, we're all brothers.

"My eyes are a bit more open now. Coming straight out of 20s you think everything's going to fall at your feet until it all comes crashing down.

"Then you've got to mentally prepare yourself to get back up.

"I took my first two years at the Titans for granted and that's why I've worked so hard to hopefully now get a second chance and not take it for granted."

https://www.nrl.com/captain-fogarty-brings-bear-essentials/tabid/10874/newsid/101758/default.aspx
 

TheRam

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How lackluster has this GF's buildup been. Cronulla, who cares? As for Melbourne? Yeah they really have caught the imagination of the Victorian public.

I'm sure it will probably rate it's tits off by default, as per all GF's, but unless it is a great game, not many will give a toss one way or the other.
 

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