Rumours and Stuff

[Eelementary]

Maybe if all our players showed some passion it wouldn't be an issue if 1 player shows it...

Talagi is going to be a better fullback than Gutho if he continues to develop.

I don't disagree that it's good to show passion.

But having a rookie give others a spray, when said rookie has made some appalling plays that led to points, is a bit rich....

 

[Antons]

If anyone wants a good laugh I highly recommend watching this.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I don't disagree that it's good to show passion.

But having a rookie give others a spray, when said rookie has made some appalling plays that led to points, is a bit rich....

The point of giving (and receiving) a spray is that it’s not supposed to be taken personally. It’s part of pumping yourself and others up. In the same way you might call yourself a f**king idiot if you drop a ball or whatever. It’s not personal, or more to the point, it’s not personal if you’re inside the group.

 

[the phantom menace]

If a spray given like that is a "tactic", it sounds like one only neanderthals might respond to...

It's possible to hold yourself to high standards and to improve after a mistake without someone having a public go at you, or having a go at yourself (if that's what it supposedly is).

 

[Gazzamatta]

If anyone wants a good laugh I highly recommend watching this.

Ta! Excellent stuff.

 

[JokerEel]

I don't disagree that it's good to show passion.

But having a rookie give others a spray, when said rookie has made some appalling plays that led to points, is a bit rich....

Appalling? dropping a bomb?

 

[Eelementary]

Appalling? dropping a bomb?

He's dropped several, man - not to mention arm-grabbing, slipping over...

 

[JokerEel]

He's dropped several, man - not to mention arm-grabbing, slipping over...

Counted 2-3 in first grade..

He was terrible in CUP though shocked me how he attacked a bomb in first grade.

Against the Broncos he also did well saving tries out the back and taking bombs.. If you saw the Raiders V Broncos game they destroyed Chevy Stuart and he played most of us junior career as a fullback...

I am not saying he should be taking Guthos spot now but you can see he has the ability.

 

[84 Baby]

How many points has Talagi's poor play led to?

Why does he have guts to give others a spray, when he has led to points himself?

If only players who haven’t played poorly are allowed to talk then the post try huddles would be silent

 

[hineyrulz]

Talagi could be our X factor from fullback, it’s up to the club to firstly keep him and then develop his talent. The real question is can they do this?? Otherwise calling yourself a development club is absolutely laughable.

 

[Eelementary]

Counted 2-3 in first grade..

He was terrible in CUP though shocked me how he attacked a bomb in first grade.

Against the Broncos he also did well saving tries out the back and taking bombs.. If you saw the Raiders V Broncos game they destroyed Chevy Stuart and he played most of us junior career as a fullback...

I am not saying he should be taking Guthos spot now but you can see he has the ability.

I can definitely see he has ability, and a tonne of potential.

I just don't think he's at First Grade standard yet .

 

[Eelementary]

If only players who haven’t played poorly are allowed to talk then the post try huddles would be silent

It's not about playing poorly - that merely adds to the questionability of his actions, steaming from him.


It's about him not being a leader, and not doing anything to prove he is, in fact, a leader, and still spitting the dummy.

I do agree with the idea that it's up to the individual players as to how they react to it.

However, I've been on the receiving end of this - played prop when I played, and always made 20+ tackles a game, and 15+ runs per game, because I wanted to give my team the best chance to succeed.

Our petulant, little halfback would give us a spray if we missed a tackle, or dropped one of the hospital passes he threw.

Meanwhile, the forward pack were thinking, "What are YOU doing to get us the win? We're working out arses off to give you time, and space, and you haven't laid on a single point - but you'll have a go at us if we make an error?"

So maybe I take it personally.

 

[Glenneel]

If his teammates aren’t respecting him, with the way most of them are playing, that says more about them then Talagi. And I want him to be upset when we concede points. And again if no one else is talking when we concede points, this says more about them

Watched Warriors and Titans games on weekend. Both had a mass of injuries (Wahs had 10, Titans at least 6), both had 3 regular spine players missing and both playing against highly placed and rated teams and both won. Compare that with our piss weak players who laid down and were stomped on by last placed Souths.

What we need is a strong personality as the coach who gets into their ears to put a fire under them. And imo Maguire is not one of them. That is what the board needs to look at before making a selection.

And yes Kini showed a lot more than Talagi has so far so if we get him and Talagi goes I think we have got the better of the deal.

 

[Gronk]

Talagi could be our X factor from fullback, it’s up to the club to firstly keep him and then develop his talent. The real question is can they do this?? Otherwise calling yourself a development club is absolutely laughable.

If you are bidding at a dutch auction for him against the Roosters Dragons etc, do you just keep going up until you get his signature? Just keep bending over ?

Here lies the problem with millennials, they want it all, they want it now and they have pricks like Isaac Moses enabling them.

 

[King-Gutho94]

If you are bidding at a dutch auction for him against the Roosters Dragons etc, do you just keep going up until you get his signature? Just keep bending over ?

Here lies the problem with millennials, they want it all, they want it now and they have pricks like Isaac Moses enabling them.

I don't think hiney is suggesting we pay 800k for the kid.

Good luck if other clubs want to pay that what do you do.

The onus is on the club to sell him a vision that he wants to stay and in turn the money will come over the next few years as he develops.

What vision are we selling him atm.

The only vision I can see is whenever your at the negotiating table you can ask for a player option inserted into your contract. And we're all happy.

If he was under lock and key for 12 more months without the PO we would have had 6 more months to judge his value and get a better assessment of him at the end of the year.

Instead we basically have to make a decision on his value after 6 FG games it's real smart business.

 

[lingard]

I would only like that backline if our backs do off season sprint training.....

And if they don't?

 

[Jake the snake]

Talagi could be our X factor from fullback, it’s up to the club to firstly keep him and then develop his talent. The real question is can they do this?? Otherwise calling yourself a development club is absolutely laughable.

I have no faith in any of the current coaching staff to develop anyone.

It was evident that Talagi couldn’t handle the high ball from the Trials. He has regressed further.

 

[lingard]

We could do that touch footy move where the bloke plays the ball then steps to the side and the dummy half gives it straight back to him. Then Lomax could carry it on the first and second tackle.

He could actually carry it on every tackle and then Moses kicks and Lomax contests the bomb. Pay him six million a season and the rest just get paid for defending.

 

[Gronk]

I don't think hiney is suggesting we pay 800k for the kid.

Good luck if other clubs want to pay that what do you do.

The onus is on the club to sell him a vision that he wants to stay and in turn the money will come over the next few years as he develops.

What vision are we selling him atm.

The only vision I can see is whenever your at the negotiating table you can ask for a player option inserted into your contract. And we're all happy.

If he was under lock and key for 12 more months without the PO we would have had 6 more months to judge his value and get a better assessment of him at the end of the year.

Instead we basically have to make a decision on his value after 6 FG games it's real smart business.

I get that people think that we should have tied him up blah blah. I am not sure what more you can do when you sign a kid at 16 for 3 years, when you have Moses in his ear.

Isaiya Katoa was poached by $$. I am sure that Penrith thought that they had a perfect vision to sell him.

 

[Twizzle]

Talagi could be our X factor from fullback, it’s up to the club to firstly keep him and then develop his talent. The real question is can they do this?? Otherwise calling yourself a development club is absolutely laughable.

you're assuming he is good enough which is a big call this early in his career