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Sack Adam O'Brien

Nuke

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To be fair, the poster on the other forum has been pretty much on the money for everything in recent years, but as was mentioned a few posts ago, Knights were identifying their leaks and were tightening up, so any info from him has been few and far between this year.
 

macavity

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You're right, Hosking would have made all the difference this year. We don't have any 98kg backrowers to lead our pack. We're just stuck with the undersized 106kg ones

Funny that his name never came up when we were winning in 2023, you know the year we apparently rejected him coming back for minimum wage

I really don’t know what your point is other than to be contrarian.
 

HarVeeGee

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It's poor roster management - not silly teenage ego.

Get the salary cap only 10% off for each player in the roster is over 1.1 million blown. The Knights are known for signing too many mid tier journeymen offering no bang for the buck - there's ya players like Hosking let go.

Add to that - a lack of 3rd party deals = juniors can't be kept.
But he was happy to come back for minimum wage. So as long as there was a spot free there’s no world in which we couldn’t fit him in. Even if the roster had been poorly managed, he still could have been fit in.

And guys who can actually play first grade but cost minimum wage are exactly how you balance the cap. Invaluable to that end. So yeah in that sense, horrible roster management. It’s not that they couldn’t squeeze him in, it’s that adding him makes it easier to squeeze others in - and they punted on it. There’s no plausible explanation for this beyond not wanting to admit a mistake.
 

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We're really getting bent out of shape over Hosking?
Hosking is just another example of AOB being unable to identify/get the best out of players. This is a list of players AOB has let walk out the door for whatever reason and where they are now;

Hosking-was a perennially solid NSW cup player who was not wanted and made his first grade debut for the premiers after leaving us
Josh King-Was a guy who tried hard but has turned into a mainstay at the storm
Mitch Barnett-was a good solid forward for us who left and is now an origin and Aust rep
Connor Watson-Was decent for us but felt he needed to leave to develop and is now an origin rep
Jacob Kiraz-was brought in by Zammit, was not rated by AOB, released and now a rep level winger
Starford Toa-was played out of position his entire stint by AOB, left and now a solid first grade centre
Kurt Mann-was solid for us, left and now 18th man for qld
Simi Sasagi-highly rated junior who never really got an extended opportunity under AOB, now a mainstay on the raiders interchange bench

For a club like us that doesn’t have the luxury of being able to attract many star players without paying overs I think it’s vital we can both hold on to decent players and also be able to get the most out of them.
 

Yosh

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Hosking is just another example of AOB being unable to identify/get the best out of players. This is a list of players AOB has let walk out the door for whatever reason and where they are now;

Hosking-was a perennially solid NSW cup player who was not wanted and made his first grade debut for the premiers after leaving us
Josh King-Was a guy who tried hard but has turned into a mainstay at the storm
Mitch Barnett-was a good solid forward for us who left and is now an origin and Aust rep
Connor Watson-Was decent for us but felt he needed to leave to develop and is now an origin rep
Jacob Kiraz-was brought in by Zammit, was not rated by AOB, released and now a rep level winger
Starford Toa-was played out of position his entire stint by AOB, left and now a solid first grade centre
Kurt Mann-was solid for us, left and now 18th man for qld
Simi Sasagi-highly rated junior who never really got an extended opportunity under AOB, now a mainstay on the raiders interchange bench

For a club like us that doesn’t have the luxury of being able to attract many star players without paying overs I think it’s vital we can both hold on to decent players and also be able to get the most out of them.
Add to that list:
Dom
DSaf has been good for the Phins
Leo is going...

Probably more as well.
 
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AOB won't go while Gardner is still there.
Might be different next year.
I reckon AOB should realise he can't do anything with the team.
I reckon we need structural changes.
Personally, I'd sack AOB now and give Bedsy the job for the rest of the season
A shake-up will stir the pot a little for a while but only for a while. It'd put everyone on notice from the top to the bottom.
 

perverse

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Hosking is just another example of AOB being unable to identify/get the best out of players. This is a list of players AOB has let walk out the door for whatever reason and where they are now;

Hosking-was a perennially solid NSW cup player who was not wanted and made his first grade debut for the premiers after leaving us
Josh King-Was a guy who tried hard but has turned into a mainstay at the storm
Mitch Barnett-was a good solid forward for us who left and is now an origin and Aust rep
Connor Watson-Was decent for us but felt he needed to leave to develop and is now an origin rep
Jacob Kiraz-was brought in by Zammit, was not rated by AOB, released and now a rep level winger
Starford Toa-was played out of position his entire stint by AOB, left and now a solid first grade centre
Kurt Mann-was solid for us, left and now 18th man for qld
Simi Sasagi-highly rated junior who never really got an extended opportunity under AOB, now a mainstay on the raiders interchange bench

For a club like us that doesn’t have the luxury of being able to attract many star players without paying overs I think it’s vital we can both hold on to decent players and also be able to get the most out of them.
Hudson Young and Beau Fermor (both playing origin). Nick Meaney...

*edit* actually looks like Young was a pre-AOB f**kup, looking at the timeline. Would be a handy bloke to have at the club though.
 

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