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Sack Brown

Yosh

Yosh

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1. Someone please explain Brown’s selections of Mann and Gavet and moving Hunt to the other side? Some baffling selection choices.

2. Could someone explain Brown’s rotations? Past few weeks we had 7 minute Buhrer and week in week out he gives little minutes to our Origin forward DSaifiti.

3. Could someone explain the lack of attacking structure after four years of coaching?

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Haffa

Haffa

Guest
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The time to move on is now really. Season is toast and there is no benefit for him to see out the year. Start the recruitment now.
 
Swarzey

Swarzey

Bench
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When we won six straight, we didn't beat world beaters and we didn't beat 100% fit teams. But despite that, the quality of the football we played was tremendous. In many of those games, we still had to depend for solid periods, we still compounded ourselves not through errors but penalties and yet we kept teams to low points. We looked at the very least formidable and competitive. We were the second best defensive team - only second to the Storm. We were top 4 in attack and in F/A overall. We were well and truly entrenched in the top 8 to the point where it almost seemed unlikely that we would lose a grip on 5th or 6th at the very least. Not the top 4, premiership contenders the media and some of our own fans believed we might have been, but a competitive team who could have really shaken the finals on our day.

Now we're shambolic. We're far worse than the opening rounds of the competition. We're no longer in the top 8, our F/A is getting worse every week and it's only because of similar mediocrity of the clubs around us that we are still in contention for the top 8. The team looks shattered, it looks broken, it looks miserable.

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Phil Gardner's comments last week was what? Brown will be our coach in 2020 unless “some major issue that I can't see happening”?

How badly does it need to get? We've capitulated from a comfortable position on the ladder with the squad looking happy and enjoying their football...to this. To this mob where half of them look disinterested despite the finals still being a realistic possibility. Do we have to lose more players? Do we need more players like Ramien who don't want to be here? How much further does our season need to sink before we realise that Brown - for as good as he is as a football manager (cap management, contract management) - he is not a first grade coach.

A good coach gets this team to the finals at the very least. The leniency for Brown missing the 8 this year died the moment he signed David Klemmer.
 
Loose Cannon

Loose Cannon

Bench
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Yosh said:
1. Someone please explain Brown’s selections of Mann and Gavet and moving Hunt to the other side? Some baffling selection choices.

2. Could someone explain Brown’s rotations? Past few weeks we had 7 minute Buhrer and week in week out he gives little minutes to our Origin forward DSaifiti.

3. Could someone explain the lack of attacking structure after four years of coaching?

Please...
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I’ll give it a shot...

Nathan Brown is a dud coach.

Prosecution rests.
 
I Bleed Maroon

I Bleed Maroon

Referee
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He's achieved all he's capable of at the Knights. He's rebuilt the squad into something decent, he's put in place a culture that can be built upon, but he just doesn't have that coaching secret sauce that is needed to be successful on field as well. The Knights have been perfectly fair and patient with him, but the excuses are quickly growing thin.
 
Silent Knight

Silent Knight

First Grade
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Yosh said:
1. Someone please explain Brown’s selections of Mann and Gavet and moving Hunt to the other side? Some baffling selection choices.

2. Could someone explain Brown’s rotations? Past few weeks we had 7 minute Buhrer and week in week out he gives little minutes to our Origin forward DSaifiti.

3. Could someone explain the lack of attacking structure after four years of coaching?

Please...
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He’s been on the phone with McBaldy?
 
Knight76

Knight76

Juniors
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It really worries me that Gardner comes out and makes a near guarantee that Brown will be the coach next year. We talk about pressure on positions getting the best out of players, and the same needs to be said for the coach.

What message do you send 6-7 rounds from the end of the year, the team on a losing streak and the boss comes out and says don't worry mate, your out coach next year, go out there and stuff the rest of this year up shes sweet!

Brown was the coach to rebuild the club, thats done, he isn't the coach to lead us forward, thats clear, and should be clear to Wests. We are going to wreck another year next year for them to learn that.
 
mozza91

mozza91

Coach
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We need someone to replace him first. There’s no point getting rid of him if we don’t have a decent replacement.

We’d have abit of pulling power with Ponga. Surely people are lining up to coach him?
 
Knight Vision

Knight Vision

First Grade
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Brown rebuilt the roster and repaired the cap. Personally I think this is his first year where he has a side that resembles something that he wanted.

So what happens if we sack Brown ? New coach comes in - new philosophy, new systems and wants his own roster, culls some of the playing squad over the course of 2 years ( or more ) finally has a squad that is something that he wants and then what ?

This kind of mentality and management is what kills clubs and renders them to perpetual mediocrity. Stability at coaching and management level is paramount. For mine barring a catastrophe of epic proportions Brown has another year to see what he can do. Mind you we havent finished with this one yet.
 
Yosh

Yosh

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Watching the highlights from other games, you see a lot of teams score off attacking moves. Bodies in motion, decoy runners etc. We literally never see this. Never. I can't remember a single try we scored from having decoy runners and players hitting holes. We only ever score off son magic from Ponga beating a player or two and putting someone over.

I want to see some structure in attack.

Our defense has been awesome in patches. Like dominating but that's also gone away. I really enjoyed it when we gave away penalty after penalty on our line and backed our defense to beat teams. We are turnstiles again...
 
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Spot On

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You need only look back and read at how cocky some people were in this thread to see how quickly things can change. Most have now jumped off the Brown train and are arm chair critics who know it all - suddenly.

Win the next 2 and we are still alive this year so there is still a chance to salvage something.

No doubt the owners will be very disappointed if we finish bottom 8 again.

Mitchell Pearce will be very closely looked at next season should he only turn in a handful of decent performances. $1 million a season and on current form, should be dropped. That in itself will start to cause some problems between the coach and player should it continue when he is needed to fire and save this season.

There was some talk of signing him up to a long term deal on ridiculous $$$$. Surely that can't be entertained now, after so many poor performances. It is a big worry.

So if these types of performances continue, who will be first to go?

Or will we finally buy a 5/8 to help out?
 
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newyboy

Juniors
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mozza91 said:
We need someone to replace him first. There’s no point getting rid of him if we don’t have a decent replacement.

We’d have abit of pulling power with Ponga. Surely people are lining up to coach him?
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The WALKER Bros? or offer Joey a shit load to coach. He is not doing much telly nowadays. Imagine the players lining up to sign.
 
Loose Cannon

Loose Cannon

Bench
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Spot On said:
You need only look back and read at how cocky some people were in this thread to see how quickly things can change. Most have now jumped off the Brown train and are arm chair critics who know it all - suddenly.

Win the next 2 and we are still alive this year so there is still a chance to salvage something.

No doubt the owners will be very disappointed if we finish bottom 8 again.

Mitchell Pearce will be very closely looked at next season should he only turn in a handful of decent performances. $1 million a season and on current form, should be dropped. That in itself will start to cause some problems between the coach and player should it continue when he is needed to fire and save this season.

There was some talk of signing him up to a long term deal on ridiculous $$$$. Surely that can't be entertained now, after so many poor performances. It is a big worry.

So if these types of performances continue, who will be first to go?

Or will we finally buy a 5/8 to help out?
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This part exactly.

Brown’s stance says Pearce plays seconds next weekend.

Won’t happen, but tells the story.
 
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