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Sharks captain Paul Gallen fined $10,000 for racist remarks at Micky Paea

bartman

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Does that one act mean that Paul Gallen has racist blood flowing through his veins?
I don't think we need to pin him as a One Nation member or place him at the Cronulla Riots to simply say that by saying what he said, he is a racist. Until such time as he (publically) makes amends and distances himself from racism.
 

bartman

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Perosnally I dont think it should be up to the player concerned to take it further. He made an allegation on the field, that should be enough for the NRL to step in.
Agree. That was one of my earliest statements before we all got dragged into finding and debating excuses for Gallen not to be labelled on the basis of what he has done.
 

Parra

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You objected to someone being called a racist.

Other people objected to someone being called a black merkin.
 

boxa777

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I know guys who are of Vietnamese, Lebanese and Greek descent, live in the Bankstown area and who make jokes about Mediterranean Descendants and Asians and lebo's and the rest of them. They don't seriously hate those people, FFS many of the people they hang out with are the very races they poke fun at. It's just light-hearted laughing at stereotypes.

There's a difference between some ribbing amongst friends, people you know who can handle it compared to comments made in the midst of anger like Gallen's when his little pinky might have been touched ever so slightly.
 

Perth Red

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It's called context! Taking the pee out of your mate for his ethnicity is not the same as spitting vitriol at someone with aggression and anger, targetting their ethnicity as some sort of slight on their character.
 

DRAGONZ_RULE

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Can't believe people are justifying racism on a footy field... :crazy:
They aren't anymore.

They were all justifying it on the basis that Paea "stomped" on Gallen's hand, so Gallen reacted back to a dirty act.

I shut all the f**kers up with the screenshot back on Page 8 which clearly showed it was a complete accident, because Paea couldn't see where his feet were at all.

All of a sudden, they've realised that the ACTUAL situation is Gallen using a racist remark because he hurt his poor little hand in an accident.
 
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Can't even stand by your own opinions.

Come on, say it. Mention the war. You're busting to mention it. Just say it. Another Nazi rant, please.

Come on, Bumble isn't here to delete or edit the post, give us a little bit of your famous dribble.
 

Syko

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Can't even stand by your own opinions.

Come on, say it. Mention the war. You're busting to mention it. Just say it. Another Nazi rant, please.

Come on, Bumble isn't here to delete or edit the post, give us a little bit of your famous dribble.


So I call you a nazi in an earlier thread, that makes me racist???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7U-_tJVmw

lol
 

Rexxy

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The NRL needs to show some strong leadership on this. AFL would not stand to let its image tainted and would be swift to act. They are the criminal code, but we are the crony code.

If the audio is not on Fox, is it on Sportsears???? If they didnt pick it up their contract should be terminated. And has anyone asked Gallen if he said it?

Even if racial abuse was not to be heard, the fact the claim was made on the field should be enough for Annersley to step up and protect our game and take action. Something happened out there. No doubt. Will anything happen at NRL HQ? looks unlikely.



http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25531692-5012431,00.html




Racism is a 'cancer in the game'
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Brent Read and Dan Koch | May 25, 2009

Article from: The Australian
ANTHONY Mundine last night claimed racism was a cancer in the NRL and called on chief executive David Gallop to step in and take action against Paul Gallen following allegations he racially abused St George Illawarra's Mickey Paea during Saturday night's game.

As the NRL found itself again gripped by controversy, Mundine, a former NRL star who is now a world boxing champion, wasn't the only prominent figure with Gallen in his sights.

Gold Coast managing director Michael Searle called on the Sharks captain to make a full and unreserved apology to the indigenous community as well as other nationalities in the game.

Gallen, who appears likely to escape sanction by the NRL because Paea did not lodge a formal complaint, declined to comment on allegations he called the Dragons forward a "black ...." when contacted yesterday.

However, pressure is growing on both the NRL and Cronulla to take action against the NSW and Australia forward.

If the allegations are founded, it is difficult to envisage Gallen remaining as captain. At the very least, Mundine and Searle believe an apology is in order.

"It's a disgrace if that did happen and nothing is done about it," Mundine said.

"I think Mickey Paea should be encouraged and supported to stand up against that sort of stuff because it's been going on for too long and it has to be stopped.

"It's like a cancer in the game and the NRL has to come down hard on it. That's one of the reasons I left the game."

Mundine, preparing for his world title fight against Daniel Geale in Brisbane on Wednesday night, made a racism allegation against former Bulldogs forward Barry Ward a decade ago when he was playing with the Dragons.

Despite turning his back on the game in 2000 to pursue a boxing career, Mundine believes racism remains rife in the NRL.

He also claimed Paea was a victim of the culture in the game, which he said discouraged Aboriginal and islander players from standing up for themselves.

"Mickey Paea seems like a shy kid," Mundine said.

"He probably doesn't want the heat on him so there's no way he was going to say anything.

"That's the culture that exists in the game. They feel like the system is against them. The league isn't run by islanders.

"But David Gallop should step in and do something about it. With all the stuff that has been going on at the moment, the NRL probably doesn't want any more sh*t in the game, but it would be a positive thing if they clamped down hard and put a stop to racism.

"If they are serious about wanting to get racism out of the game, and a player said that, he should get fined big money and suspended for 10 matches. They've got to deal with it the way they have with other things like the judiciary and referees."

Mundine's allegation against Ward was not an isolated incident. Four years ago, Dean Widders was lauded for going public after being racially slurred by then-South Sydney captain Bryan Fletcher. Fletcher was stripped of the captaincy, fined and suspended for one game.

Last year, Penrith captain Petero Civoniceva was racially abused by Eels supporters at Parramatta Stadium. The NRL acted in those cases because the player on the receiving end made a formal complaint.

However, Paea told The Australian last night he had forgiven Gallen and reiterated he would not press for a formal allegation.

"It's done and dusted," Paea said. "I have already moved on. He apologised. He's sorry."

Following Paea's interview, the NRL again contacted St George Illawarra officials.

"On the basis of the comments that were given to The Australian we again approached the Dragons to ask them were they prepared to go on with this matter. And they again, after checking with the player, reiterated that the player will not be giving a statement to the NRL and did not want to take the matter any further," NRL chief operating officer Graham Annesley said.

"However, as a result of the comments the NRL intends to continue its investigation tomorrow to determine if any action is required."

While Paea is willing to let it rest, others aren't. Searle, who is attempting to celebrate the game's indigenous players with an annual game, was livid.

"It is completely inappropriate and is something our game cannot, and I would like to think will not, tolerate," Searle said.

"No one can even attempt to justify or defend it. I understand blokes are out there in the heat of the battle but that is no excuse.

"It is not in the code, it is one fool making an inappropriate comment in the heat of the game.

"He needs to come out and apologise not just to (Paea) but to the entire Australian indigenous and all the other different communities in our game that would find that offensive.

"This is the 21st century and that sort of crap isn't acceptable."

Brisbane and Queensland forward Sam Thaiday claimed the game's culture needed to be celebrated and warned racism needed to be stamped out.

"It is a touchy subject, but what it comes down to is the fact there is just no need for it," Thaiday said.

"There is never any need to speak like that out there. It is out of line and it is offensive.

"Whatever punishment the NRL come up with, I will back because it is important to deal with these things."
 

adamkungl

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i'm fairly certain i'll get flamed, but whatever. It's not something I would say, but I don't think its that big a deal, particularly if Paea doesn't want to go on with it. Sticks and stones....its just words.
 

Rexxy

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call someone a jew and deny the Holocaust. or say something about the ovens werent big enough. theyre only words too.


i'm fairly certain i'll get flamed, but whatever. It's not something I would say, but I don't think its that big a deal, particularly if Paea doesn't want to go on with it. Sticks and stones....its just words.
 

Timmah

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I feel sick - I actually somewhat agree with some of Mundine's sentiments... :sick:
 

sass

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Producing racist material, opinions or making racial slurs with no provocation.

oh riiiight. of course. so if the person is being mean to you, then saying racist things doesn't make you a racist?

your argument makes no sense and you know it.

by your logic, I've just had a go at you, so you can feel free to call me a skippy bitch, or a jew bitch and not be a racist.
 

Perth Red

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They should pressure Paea into acting. Either he is lying and then he should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute or he is telling the truth in which case the NRL needs to act on it.

All this "leave it on the field" bs was fine when we didn't see every play from every angle but the public now sees everything and therefore any incidents of this gravity have to be dealt with.
 

adamkungl

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They should pressure Paea into acting. Either he is lying and then he should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute or he is telling the truth in which case the NRL needs to act on it.

All this "leave it on the field" bs was fine when we didn't see every play from every angle but the public now sees everything and therefore any incidents of this gravity have to be dealt with.

No. It's entirely between Paea and Gallen as far as i'm concerened.
 

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