Shaun Kenny-Dowall not guilty of assaulting former partner Jess Peris

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North Melbourne forward Majak Daw give all-clear to play on despite rape charges over his head
GRANT BAKER HERALD SUN JULY 01, 2014 6:39PM

THE AFL has stood North Melbourne player Majak Daw down from his role as a multicultural ambassador, but has not yet made a decision on whether to suspend or withdraw his pay for that role.

Daw has been charged with three counts of rape, dating back to an incident in 2007.

Daw is one of 10 AFL multicultural ambassadors, for which he is modestly paid.

The AFL industry’s ad hoc approach to dealing with players facing criminal charges continued yesterday, with the AFL and the AFL Players’ Association supporting the Kangaroos’ decision to allow Daw to remain eligible to play.

The AFL and AFLPA maintain that cases involving police charges must be judged on individual circumstances, and continue to resist pressure to adopt a more structured approach.


In the most recent similar case, former St Kilda player Stephen Milne was stood down by the Saints in June last year after being charged with rape over an incident in 2004.

Milne took a leave of absence which lasted three weeks.

The Players’ Association was initially concerned the Saints’ decision had set a “dangerous precedent”, but later accepted that it was appropriate for Milne to be sidelined for a time.

Former AFL CEO Andrew Demetriou said of the Milne case that it would be “unjust” if Milne was permanently denied the opportunity to play, but said: “it’s appropriate to have a pause, out of respect for everyone involved in the situation, particularly the woman involved”.

In the Daw case, the AFL has agreed that: “Given the specific circumstances of the case, the AFL has determined that the player remains available for selection by his club.”

“However, we will monitor the case and reserve the right to take action under our rules if deemed appropriate,” the league said in a statement.

North Melbourne indicated that the presumption of innocence fundamental to the Australian legal system was the key factor in its decision to allow him to play.

“The club respects the integrity of the legal process and asks the right to privacy

of all involved be respected,” the club said.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...es-over-his-head/story-fni5f986-1226974201201

As usual the Victorians will act like their shit doesn't stink, hypocrites.

 

[Usain Bolt]

SKD will be starring in the next Once Were Warriors movie

 

[TheDalek079]

SKD will be starring in the next Once Were Warriors movie

really? I never knew he was an actor too. What a talented guy he is

 

[DiegoNT]

You are absolutely fkked in the head.

How so?
They both essentially believe in the same god
They both believe they are descendants of the same person (Abraham)
They both share many prophets and holy places
They both have holy books preaching love and helping your fellow man
They both have been split into different groups who have completely different views (Catholics, protestant, sunni, shi'ite)
They both have been involved invading foreign countries and killing of the native people's and/or there culture
Both religions have been hijacked by radicalism, using the religion for their own gains
Both have been involved in genocides

for Christians to complain about muslims coming to australia and killing 'christian culture' after Christianity done the exact same thing to the indigenous people of this country is pretty hypocritical


oh and also SKD should be allowed to play until his case is heard, but if found guilty should face a big ban from the nrl

 

[Danish]

An opinion is simply a view or judgement formed about something that is not necessarily based on knowledge or fact. So anyone can have an opinion about anything. Having an opinion that someone is guilty or innocent of a crime without knowing any of the evidence is equally as stupid, in my opinion.

Plenty of posters on this thread are happy to presume SKD innocent and to presume the victim is making stuff up.

When you have no evidence of something occurring, then the only logical opinion to have it did not occur.

The victim has made unfounded claims of abuse in the past, so that is why some posters probably feel that way. If these charges were laid against Lui, or Auva, or Inglis, guys with form in this department, then I'm sure those posters would probably be siding with the victim instead.

 

[Last Week]

When you have no evidence of something occurring, then the only logical opinion to have it did not occur.

The victim has made unfounded claims of abuse in the past, so that is why some posters probably feel that way. If these charges were laid against Lui, or Auva, or Inglis, guys with form in this department, then I'm sure those posters would probably be siding with the victim instead.

That's true, and the cry wolf scenario does come into the court of public opinion.

But it is appalling for people to assume that a victim of domestic violence is lying just because he or she has in the past. It is not only making things harder for the alleged victim, but other victims of domestic violence are seeing the criticism this alleged victim is receiving. Why would they want to come forward and possibly face the same scrutiny?

Legally, in court, you cannot bring up a defendants previous criminal history. (Well, you can, but it's quite rare.) The same principal should apply to victims. I have seen it first hand though, that it doesn't.

At the end of the day, everyone should shut the f**k up and wait for the courts to decide, because no one bar the people involved know jack shit.

 

[magpie4ever]

When you have no evidence of something occurring, then the only logical opinion to have it did not occur.

The victim has made unfounded claims of abuse in the past, so that is why some posters probably feel that way. If these charges were laid against Lui, or Auva, or Inglis, guys with form in this department, then I'm sure those posters would probably be siding with the victim instead.

Where are you get this from? A Murdoch paper?

 

[Bronco18]

When you have no evidence of something occurring, then the only logical opinion to have it did not occur.

The victim has made unfounded claims of abuse in the past, so that is why some posters probably feel that way. If these charges were laid against Lui, or Auva, or Inglis, guys with form in this department, then I'm sure those posters would probably be siding with the victim instead.

I take it you're talking about this incident: http://www.territorystories.nt.gov.au/bitstream/10070/239960/3/ntn02apr12003x.pdf

If some posters feel that way then those posters are wrong.

So because the bloke wasn't convicted, that makes her a liar? Or are we meant to take her word as less than that of another person? Have we not been through how incredibly difficult it is to convict in cases of domestic violence....

 

[The Rosco]

How so?
They both essentially believe in the same god
They both believe they are descendants of the same person (Abraham)
They both share many prophets and holy places
They both have holy books preaching love and helping your fellow man
They both have been split into different groups who have completely different views (Catholics, protestant, sunni, shi'ite)
They both have been involved invading foreign countries and killing of the native people's and/or there culture
Both religions have been hijacked by radicalism, using the religion for their own gains
Both have been involved in genocides

for Christians to complain about muslims coming to australia and killing 'christian culture' after Christianity done the exact same thing to the indigenous people of this country is pretty hypocritical


oh and also SKD should be allowed to play until his case is heard, but if found guilty should face a big ban from the nrl

Christians love a bacon and egg roll.
" don't give their 12 yr old daughters to their 35 yr old friends to marry.
" don't cut their daughter's clits off
" dont cut the heads off people that dont support their views.
" will let you have alternate views, without calling you filth
" don't fly airliners into buildings
" will let your kid paint his Easter egg at school
" don't walk around with their faces covered
" let their wives sit in the front seat in their car
" will let you go into a Christian land and ask for a bacon and egg roll without the bacon
" will let you go into a Christian land and have your women folk dress and walk as they please.
" will let you go into a Christian land and express your preference for another religion
" don't kill in the name of their God and get 14 virgins
" don't kill in the name of their God ( well not generally in the last 700 years )
" don't honour kill
" respect the value of a life, whatever the religion

You seem to be of indigenous background. You should then understand our ancestors did some pretty fkked up things( by today's standards ).
I will resist offending you by listing some, huh ?

 

[Pete Cash]

Haha wat

 

[Bronco18]

Christians love a bacon and egg roll.
" don't give their 12 yr old daughters to their 35 yr old friends to marry.
" don't cut their daughter's clits off
" dont cut the heads off people that dont support their views.
" will let you have alternate views, without calling you filth
" don't fly airliners into buildings
" will let your kid paint his Easter egg at school
" don't walk around with their faces covered
" let their wives sit in the front seat in their car
" will let you go into a Christian land and ask for a bacon and egg roll without the bacon
" will let you go into a Christian land and have your women folk dress and walk as they please.
" will let you go into a Christian land and express your preference for another religion
" don't kill in the name of their God and get 14 virgins
" don't kill in the name of their God ( well not generally in the last 700 years )
" don't honour kill
" respect the value of a life, whatever the religion

You seem to be of indigenous background. You should then understand our ancestors did some pretty fkked up things( by today's standards ).
I will resist offending you by listing some, huh ?

Literally nothing to do with this thread. Go take your faux-theological argument to General Discussion please.

 

[magpie4ever]

State and religion should be separate...

Geez, some of you dudes just don't get it - the modern democratic secular society is a flow on from western christianity societies developing modern principles of freedom of religion, freedom of expression.

A christian based society is a parlay for the history of that development.

You will not find islam preaching that - shite, you can't even draw a picture of their bloody prophet - and his is not even their god.

 

[Tooooks]

When you have no evidence of something occurring, then the only logical opinion to have it did not occur.

The victim has made unfounded claims of abuse in the past, so that is why some posters probably feel that way. If these charges were laid against Lui, or Auva, or Inglis, guys with form in this department, then I'm sure those posters would probably be siding with the victim instead.

I may have missed something, but where are the unfounded claims of abuse? Link?

Obviously there IS evidence of something occurring. Until that evidence is tested in court then none of us have any real knowledge to base an opinion on.

 

[magpie4ever]

Let's get serious, if the Pommies didn't return up in 1788 what do you believe the land of Oz would be like now - some democratic paradise for extremely weathly 1st Australians - yeah, no.

The 1st Australians should be glad it was the poms and not some islamic tribe.

 

[DiegoNT]

Christians love a bacon and egg roll.
" don't give their 12 yr old daughters to their 35 yr old friends to marry.
" don't cut their daughter's clits off
" dont cut the heads off people that dont support their views.
" will let you have alternate views, without calling you filth
" don't fly airliners into buildings
" will let your kid paint his Easter egg at school
" don't walk around with their faces covered
" let their wives sit in the front seat in their car
" will let you go into a Christian land and ask for a bacon and egg roll without the bacon
" will let you go into a Christian land and have your women folk dress and walk as they please.
" will let you go into a Christian land and express your preference for another religion
" don't kill in the name of their God and get 14 virgins
" don't kill in the name of their God ( well not generally in the last 700 years )
" don't honour kill
" respect the value of a life, whatever the religion

You seem to be of indigenous background. You should then understand our ancestors did some pretty fkked up things( by today's standards ).
I will resist offending you by listing some, huh ?

You've based your whole argument on radical Islamist, like me basing a list on the views of a radical christian group like the klu klux klan and saying all muslims are the same
all Christians cover up pedophiles
all Christians bomb abortion clinics
all Christians perform lynchings
The list goes on.
It wasn't long ago that christian's had complete control of laws in australia and we had stuff like the stolen generation, white australia policy etc and it wasn't until australian started to go away from then hard core christian values that we've become the great country we are today

 

[bottle]

Unless SKD is a radical Islamist or a member of the KKK I suspect this thread has been hijacked.

 

[DiegoNT]

Unless SKD is a radical Islamist or a member of the KKK I suspect this thread has been hijacked.

Sorry
It's amazing how quickly things spiral out of control

 

[Danish]

Unless SKD is a radical Islamist or a member of the KKK I suspect this thread has been hijacked.

Maybe he'll pull a Fergo and do a speed conversion before the trial?

 

[TheFrog]

Pretty sure Majak Daw was charged with rape.

Yeah my bad I was thinking of the Union chappie that Ms Peris was mixed up with previously.

 

[thorson1987]

Maybe he'll pull a Fergo and do a speed conversion before the trial?

But still enjoy a drink or 2.