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Shaun Kenny-Dowall not guilty of assaulting former partner Jess Peris

shiznit

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Apparently Dave says the NRL are tough on women beaters. If a few months out of the game is tough is up to interpretation I guess?
The point is... We don't actually know if SKD is a woman beater.

The natural course of justice is he's innocent until proven guilty.

But for some f**king reason you want the NRL to treat him like a woman beater before he even gets a chance to defend himself.
 

DURRRHURRR

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So Auva'a pleads guilty but gets his sentencing moved to end of season and is free to play the grand final and now everyone is all over SKD and wants him out of the NRL before he is even proven guilty.
 

El Diablo

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http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...nce-on-domestic-violence-20150720-gigj3j.html

White Ribbon Australia backs NRL's stance on domestic violence

Date
July 20, 2015 - 8:00PM

Brad Walter
Sports Reporter

White Ribbon Australia has backed NRL chief executive Dave Smith's handling of the Shaun Kenny-Dowall case, which threatens to cast a shadow over the future of the Sydney Roosters star for the remainder of the season.

NSW Premier Mike Baird was critical of the NRL's stance during a phone conversation with Smith on Sunday in which he called for Kenny-Dowall to be stood down until domestic assault charges against him were heard.

Smith told Fairfax Media on Sunday the NRL would take tough action against any player or official found guilty of domestic violence, and had a track record of doing so, but did not want to prejudice Kenny-Dowall's right to a fair hearing.

White Ribbon Australia, which signed a partnership agreement with the NRL in March after having an informal relationship since 2012, also did not want to comment on Kenny-Dowall's case but said Smith's comments reinforced the leadership position the game had taken on the issue.

"White Ribbon has full confidence in the NRL to lead by example in establishing a culture of non-violence across all of its clubs and this has been demonstrated by Dave Smith's words over the weekend," the foundation said in a statement.

"We are committed to working with the NRL, through the agreement, to ensure that the game, its staff, its players and its supporters understand that all forms of abuse, violence and coercive control will not be tolerated and that individuals will be held accountable for their actions."

Kenny-Dowall is expected to formally enter a plea when he appears at Waverley Local Court on Thursday after being charged with 10 offences against his former partner, Jessica Peris, the daughter of Australian Olympian Nova Peris, including six counts of common assault, one count of assault occasioning actual bodily harm and stalking/intimidating.

The Roosters are standing by Kenny-Dowall and will leave a decision on whether the New Zealand international plays in Friday night's match against Wests Tigers up to him after he withdraw from last Sunday's 24-0 win over the Warriors.

They were so concerned for his wellbeing on Sunday in the aftermath of his arrest that chief executive Brian Canavan told Channel 9 they sought police assistance when they could not contact him.

If he pleads guilty the NRL is expected to immediately stand him down from playing and will determine what further action to take after the court case has concluded.

South Sydney centre Kirisome Auva'a was banned from playing in the NRL until round 23 of this year's competition after last November being fined $3000 and placed on a two-year good behaviour bond for domestic violence charges against his former partner.

With prosecutors reportedly needing six weeks to prepare a brief of evidence for the court case against Kenny-Dowall, it is unlikely that a verdict would be reached before the end of the season.

"White Ribbon will not comment on the specifics of any ongoing legal case, however we stand strong in our view that violence is never acceptable," the statement said. "Education is key and this is the reason that we work with partners like the NRL to get the message of non-violence out across Australia.

"The fact remains that in Australia, one in three women experience physical and/or sexual violence perpetrated by someone known to them. Domestic violence occurs across all communities, cultures and socio-economies.

"In March of this year, White Ribbon and the NRL signed a Partnership Agreement. This establishes White Ribbon as an integral part of the game's 'Voice against Violence' campaign.

It also encourages NRL clubs to become White Ribbon Accredited Workplaces and commit to driving the prevention of violence against women in communities. Many NRL players are committed White Ribbon Ambassadors. The NRL itself is an accredited White Ribbon Workplace. The nature of our work with the NRL is advisory. Violence against women is a serious issue both in sport and in the community at large."
 

bileduct

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Oh it's one in three women now. I didn't realise we were living in the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

I'm sure it was one in five the other day.

Hard to keep up with these numbers.
 

Tommy Smith

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I commend Dave Smith and White Ribbon for taken a measured stance on this issue.

The only person that should be stood down is Mike Baird.
 

darcy

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"The fact remains that in Australia, one in three women experience physical and/or sexual violence perpetrated by someone known to them. Domestic violence occurs across all communities, cultures and socio-economies.

Let's just deal with the "physical violence" perpetrated on all these women by "someone known to them", probably their husbands/partners in most cases.

Has anyone investigated and detailed just why that is, why it happens?
...and what is called "physical violence"?

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Has anyone investigated and detailed all the domestic violence, lying, verbal abuse, deceit, expletive-laden or not verbal tirades, raised/shouting/screaming voices at husbands/partners by women?

Women shouting/screaming at their husbands/partners is bullying and harassment, and abuse.
Women throwing things at their husbands/partners is domestic violence.
Women lying about the cost of clothes/shoes etc is deceit, and could trigger anger in their partners, seems to me, but I'm no expert with a degree on the subject.

Just wondering when there might be a Blue Ribbon Day/Foundation established in support of the male victims of domestic violence/abuse/verbal abuse/domestic psychological torture.

Burwood mall...some years ago...one Thursday night...an attractive young woman was walking thru the mall with her boyfriend/husband/partner.
'Flouncing like an exalted goddess' could be used to describe her manner.
As I walked past them she was saying to this man with her; "If you don't buy me that I'll throw a tantrum".
 
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I called it a "storm in a tea cup" much earlier in this thread as little info was available. Looks like it is not.

That said I'll wait until the outcome of any court proceedings as the media is not a court of law. Further some of those whipping things up have a poor track record when it comes to being right.

The one thing is with some of the carry on, it can leave it open fro SKD's legal reps to argue he will not be able to get a fair trial. That is where comments from the Premier of NSW are quite stupid. Add in too, it could leave Baird open to being sued if SKD is found not guilty.
 

TheVelourFog

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Let's just deal with the "physical violence" perpetrated on all these women by "someone known to them", probably their husbands/partners in most cases.

Has anyone investigated and detailed just why that is, why it happens?
...and what is called "physical violence"?

________________________________________

Has anyone investigated and detailed all the domestic violence, lying, verbal abuse, deceit, expletive-laden or not verbal tirades, raised/shouting/screaming voices at husbands/partners by women?

Women shouting/screaming at their husbands/partners is bullying and harassment, and abuse.
Women throwing things at their husbands/partners is domestic violence.
Women lying about the cost of clothes/shoes etc is deceit, and could trigger anger in their partners, seems to me, but I'm no expert with a degree on the subject.

Just wondering when there might be a Blue Ribbon Day/Foundation established in support of the male victims of domestic violence/abuse/verbal abuse/domestic psychological torture.

Burwood mall...some years ago...one Thursday night...an attractive young woman was walking thru the mall with her boyfriend/husband/partner.
'Flouncing like an exalted goddess' could be used to describe her manner.
As I walked past them she was saying to this man with her; "If you don't buy me that I'll throw a tantrum".



you actually wrote this

how embarrassing for you
 

Penrose Warrior

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No doubt Mike Baird will pitch up on Grand Final day, all smiles playing the politician's game. What a merkin. How a Premier could be so callous is beyond me.
 

expert

Juniors
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I think those convicted should be banned from the game for life. But I don't think they should be punished just for allegations. Let the courts do their thing and when the court makes a decision act quickly and strongly at that point.
As a Souths fan what would you have done with GI?
 

darcy

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you actually wrote this

how embarrassing for you

I did.
You think there are no male victims of domestic violence and abuse?
You think it's ok for women in relationships to shout and scream at their partners?

What if a man did that to a woman?
 

darcy

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As a Souths fan what would you have done with GI?

As I remember it, GI admitted to assaulting his girlfriend, ...with no conviction being recorded against him.
From memory the assault he did was that he pushed her away and she sustained an injury of some sort, maybe muscular or hit something...the case was some time ago.
I can't post links yet.

As I remember it she was "in his face and was holding a knife at the time"...or the like.
She accompanied him to court[they had reconciled by then].
She had spoken to the cops by then I think and given them all the true details of what occurred.

Tricky what a man is supposed to do in a situation like that.

I believe the court's judgement was exactly correct...as was the NRL's.
 

TheFrog

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Jessica Peris' previous exploits are an interesting read. She assaults her former partner with an electricity board, but then gets "scared and intimidated" when he takes it off her and throws it at the wall.

She looks about 50kg wringing wet. What could she do to a rugby player twice her size?

People have arguments all the time, and sometimes they get heated. That does not mean that the bigger and stronger of the pair can use physical violence on the other.

You think there are no male victims of domestic violence and abuse?
You think it's ok for women in relationships to shout and scream at their partners?

What if a man did that to a woman?

As far as I know it is not an offence in general to scream and shout, although it might still be regarded as domestic violence.

The difference is that unless a woman is holding a weapon and showing inclination to use it, it is unlikely that a big strong footballer would feel physically threatened if she's screaming and shouting. The situation is quite different if its the man doing the ranting. There is genuine physical threat. It's part of being a man that you mustn't use your size and strength in this manner.
 
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redvscotty

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She looks about 50kg wringing wet. What could she do to a rugby player twice her size?

People have arguments all the time, and sometimes they get heated. That does not mean that the bigger and stronger of the pair can use physical violence on the other.

It also doesn't mean that a 50kg wringing wet woman can't exact physical abuse on a man though, of any size mind you.
 
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