Mr Red
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McGregor will turn out to be as bad as Price and probably more irritating.
Will he be pulling people's pants down?
McGregor will turn out to be as bad as Price and probably more irritating.
If he is sacked, please replace him with a coach who has actually won a grand final. Someone who has achieved this obviously knows what it takes. I don't want us wasting our time with someone with "potential". Has to be a coach who has actually won a GF.
madge maguire?
I'll add one moreShould he be sacked yes.
Will he be sacked no.
Will he quit no.
Will any decent coach want to join a leaderless club no.
I see coaching as a complete different role, like any professional job in the work force you must have had experience in that position, I think is absolute stupidity of our CEO and board to think that because you have played the game at the highest level that automatically makes you a candidate.Saints are a proud club with a long an illustrious history. Fans expect more from those who wear the red v probably more than any other club. I have said previously whilst the merger was a necessary evil, I am not sure it has benefited the club in the long term. We have learned to accept mediocrity from our once proud club.
The Bennett fix was savage and we lost good players due to it. He did do what he was asked to do by the board though and won a premiership, albeit we should have won a couple. The fallout from that fix though has left us in tatters. Reliance on fringe players due to the salary cap restrictions and pay over for these fringe players. We have had a few years now to recover from that but we do not seem to be building.
Players like Dugan, packer, Ah Mau, Cooper, De Belin (he did have a bad one last week but his form has been pretty good), are the players to lead this club. I still have mixed feelings on Widdop but believe the talent is there in him. We have filled the team with fringe dwellers other than these. Creagh should have retired and freed up money over a year ago. Nightingale, as much as I love him, needs to consider this his last year. WHilst he brings guts and destination to the side and is still great on the wing, he is fading.
So having said that what do we have. A procession of inadequate coaches who have been given jobs from the old boys school. This once worked well for the dragons back in the 60's, and 70's. That idea does not work in this modern game. We need a clearance of all old boys from the coaching and support staff and bring in a team of professionals. I would even go so far as to suggest something along the American football standard where these coaches come through the ranks from lower divisions for years before having a crack at big league teams.
If we are to see any glory in the red v we need a massive clear out now. Do it before the June 30 deadline. Cut players, remove the coaching staff and rebuild. Do not wait till the end of the season as we effectively write off next year as well. We are reasonably positioned only due to other failures with other clubs. A fresh broom through now would give us half a season to experiment, not with Dugan at centre (what a mistake that is), Strip Widdop of the captaincy and give it to Dugan who shows so much passion it's a crime to see the anguish on his face each week. That may encourage our players, including the fringe dwellers to pick up there game.
The trouble is though we have a weak management regime who will not jeapodise their positions to be innovative. If you stand in the same spot you will find yourself at the back of the pack. That is what we have done in the past few years. We have two playmakers in Widdop and Marshall who can win games. They are not being coached properly to move forward and let run the show how they feel. The path of least resistance seems to be sideways. Pull them aside and tell them that's $5000 every time they do it in a game. That should smarten them up a bit. Both would have been more than $50000 down on last weeks game.
Spend the money and buy a coaching staff that has runs on the board. Anything is better than the tripe we are being served up each week with excuses running rampant after each match. It saddens me deeply watching our once proud club run around like a mediocre side each week. It is the culture that now seems to be imbedded in the side though since the merger. This is not the Dragons I have watched and loved for more than 45 years. This is not the side that has any chance of competing in this lopsided competition.
Changes now not later.
I see coaching as a complete different role, like any professional job in the work force you must have had experience in that position, I think is absolute stupidity of our CEO and board to think that because you have played the game at the highest level that automatically makes you a candidate.
After the sacking of Price a Coach available with experience was Brian Smith, I also think having success in ESL is important, I don't want to see another St George assistant or Waterboy given the job..it is like handing the keys to a Ferrari to an L plater.
I also believe if any ex Saints player wishes to become a Coach(St George) he must complete a University degree in Teaching!
I mentioned Brian Smith a month or so ago, but in all honesty, we probably needed him after Price. Now I think the timing is all wrong. I honestly think with the right offer, we are a chance of signing someone like Maguire or even Hasler. Last time these two were on the market, we were busy di$&ing around with Price, however this time, obviously unintentionaly, we may get the timing right.
Whether it's hasler or Maguire, besides the obvious goal of winning the comp, the next important thing is to ensure we are competing to win a comp at least every 7-10 years. A long term strategic plan needs to be put into place. We have learnt some lessons from the Bennett era, we will be forever thankful to him for delivering what we all really wanted. But we also need someone with a long term vision for success.
We all just need to watch carefully how the dogs and rabbits fare over the next month, I have a feeling one of their coaches won't be there next season.
If he is sacked, please replace him with a coach who has actually won a grand final. Someone who has achieved this obviously knows what it takes. I don't want us wasting our time with someone with "potential". Has to be a coach who has actually won a GF.
Hearing this morning on 2UE rumour mill, Toovey tipped to Warriors? Also Tigers and Cleary linking up, the worst outcome is status quo here and anther season lost, I'm not sure if this Bruce Gorden spanner is holding the Club move on anything, we seem stuck in neutral right now? What if the recent CH9 decision to part ways with WIN on regional TV and instead go with Southern Cross media? There's more going on off the field than on it right now !!
Also yes Dugan going back to Centre. FFS can't we simply leave the bloke in the position he plays his best football. And gives us the best chance of starting a set off well.
Moving him from fullback to centre weakens two positions. Why can't people see that.
Clearly, Duges is a great FB, the best ball returner and an average centre at best.