Should Slater miss the Grand Final for his shoulder charge?

[dannyt]

Why not both?

If the penalty try is given, the player will not be sin binned. Double penalty for the same offence.

If no penalty try, then the player is sin binned. This us why the penalty only was farcical. Should've been try or sin bin.

 

[ouryears]

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Let’s look at this objectively....
Take out of the equation it is Melbourne Storm , who a lot of people hate
Take out of the equation it was Billy Slater, who may or may not be well liked

What we witnessed was a guy in a CONTACT SPORT putting his body on the line for his team to stop a try in a very important game. The ball carrier wasn’t blind sided and he had full opportunity to brace for the impact.

As a fan this is exactly what you expect the players you support to do.... and yet according to ridiculous knee jerk NRL rules, a player instead of being praised for his efforts now risks missing the most important game of the season...

Not right is it? The NRL have a lot to answer for.... it’s a disgrace

Everything you say is true
However, Other players have missed GFs for less
Rules are rules
And it’s Slater
So not many non storm fans care
He can rest up
You think he would care if it was an opposition player in same circumstances
Nope
Feeling for Slater would be like sympathising with the devil if he got caught out......

 

[Ted bartolo]

Don't like storm or slater but if he gets suspended for an oustanding tackle rugby league is going loose a lot of supporters it's already hard to watch with the bunker and poor refereeing

 

[dannyt]

Don't like storm or slater but if he gets suspended for an oustanding tackle rugby league is going loose a lot of supporters it's already hard to watch with the bunker and poor refereeing

An outstanding tackle before that type of tackle was made illegal.

Not saying that making it illegal was a smart move, but it is illegal as the rules stand.

 

[Johns Magic]

Idiot Gus Gould stated it was ‘safest option’ for both players? Considering sharks player left field injured and did not return can’t believe he said that!!

Feki went off injured from a completely unrelated collision with Vunivalu later on in the match.

 

[dragonssamy61]

Salter charged grade 1 and will be out for one game.
Storm will fight the charge

 

[Old Timer]

Salter charged grade 1 and will be out for one game.
Storm will fight the charge

Well he is retiring why not appeal the charge that is just common sense.
I have looked very closely at the replay and Slater had ever opportunity to get his arms out stretched and his head behind the attacking players body to affect the tackle.
In fact he could have even got his head in the wrong position in from of the attacking player but he didn't take that option
The issue was that he had a Melbourne team mate also trying to run the Shark player down from behind.
Slater obviously took the shoulder charge methodology to effect maximum momentum in the tackle, ensure the player was banged sideways into touch and IMO ensure he didn't get injured or in fact injure the other Storm player.
A deliberate act with no care for the attacking player and all care for him and his team mate.
The rules are explicit in what constitutes a tackle and this grub of a player should face the full consequences of those rules.
If the NRL are to be believed in anything it does in the future then it must act accordingly in this situation.

 

[dannyt]

Well he is retiring why not appeal the charge that is just common sense.
I have looked very closely at the replay and Slater had ever opportunity to get his arms out stretched and his head behind the attacking players body to affect the tackle.
In fact he could have even got his head in the wrong position in from of the attacking player but he didn't take that option
The issue was that he had a Melbourne team mate also trying to run the Shark player down from behind.
Slater obviously took the shoulder charge methodology to effect maximum momentum in the tackle, ensure the player was banged sideways into touch and IMO ensure he didn't get injured or in fact injure the other Storm player.
A deliberate act with no care for the attacking player and all care for him and his team mate.
The rules are explicit in what constitutes a tackle and this grub of a player should face the full consequences of those rules.
If the NRL are to be believed in anything it does in the future then it must act accordingly in this situation.

It wont.

 

[dragonssamy61]

Well he is retiring why not appeal the charge that is just common sense.
I have looked very closely at the replay and Slater had ever opportunity to get his arms out stretched and his head behind the attacking players body to affect the tackle.
In fact he could have even got his head in the wrong position in from of the attacking player but he didn't take that option
The issue was that he had a Melbourne team mate also trying to run the Shark player down from behind.
Slater obviously took the shoulder charge methodology to effect maximum momentum in the tackle, ensure the player was banged sideways into touch and IMO ensure he didn't get injured or in fact injure the other Storm player.
A deliberate act with no care for the attacking player and all care for him and his team mate.
The rules are explicit in what constitutes a tackle and this grub of a player should face the full consequences of those rules.
If the NRL are to be believed in anything it does in the future then it must act accordingly in this situation.

100% ot but I think they will let him off

 

[Frank Facer]

Well the judiciary ruled that it wasn't a shoulder charge. lol If it looks like a duck, if it swims like a duck and if is quacks like a duck, well it is a duck.

The Queensland majority judiciary believed that it wasn't a shoulder charge. I disagree.

The NRL also decided that Inglis didn't do a crusher tackle on Lafai? It looked like a blatant crusher tackle to me. The NRL obviously have their protected species policy. Inglis, Slater and Smith have all been dirty players for a long time now, but the media never mentions it and always speaks about those 3 players in glowing terms, to say the least.

The judiciary ruling that Slater didn't shoulder charge made me think of this video

 

[SIR LANCELOT]

Great to see Billy get off. A sensible decision one that will bring huge ratings to the 2018 Grand Final. He is the best since Changa and we will all miss seeing him play after Sundays game. A big win for our game,
Lancelot

 

[Fire]

Biggest thing I took out of that is the amount of research and preparation Slater puts in before a game (i.e., watching every single try Feki and Lee had scored in the 2018 season to see how they run toward the try-line).

Phenomenal

I wonder if McGregor has Dufty doing that.

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

Yes, although he is probably the greatest fb of all time, he played for a team that cheated to form one of the greatest teams of all time. All they got for this was a slap on the wrist. There are rules for Melbourne...and rules for everyone else. Sensible decision? Tyson Frizzell not looking at the ref once he brushes him to get past gets suspended, this grub uses his shoulder to stop a try. This is a double standard. This is one of the most corrupt decisions in the game I’ve ever seen. I hope the grubs lose, and I can’t wait to see the back of him. f**k off Melbourne you cheating merkins

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

Well he is retiring why not appeal the charge that is just common sense.
I have looked very closely at the replay and Slater had ever opportunity to get his arms out stretched and his head behind the attacking players body to affect the tackle.
In fact he could have even got his head in the wrong position in from of the attacking player but he didn't take that option
The issue was that he had a Melbourne team mate also trying to run the Shark player down from behind.
Slater obviously took the shoulder charge methodology to effect maximum momentum in the tackle, ensure the player was banged sideways into touch and IMO ensure he didn't get injured or in fact injure the other Storm player.
A deliberate act with no care for the attacking player and all care for him and his team mate.
The rules are explicit in what constitutes a tackle and this grub of a player should face the full consequences of those rules.
If the NRL are to be believed in anything it does in the future then it must act accordingly in this situation.

Just watch players get suspended for less next year. f**king joke of a sport. I’m so shitty about this. Get f**ked NRL

 

[possm]

It is a bad joke and the NRL are looking very poor because of it. I wonder when will SGI employ someone at the Club to get our player's a fair deal. No one seems to stand up for our players.

 

[R&WTILLIDIE]

It is a bad joke and the NRL are looking very poor because of it. I wonder when will SGI employ someone at the Club to get our player's a fair deal. No one seems to stand up for our players.

We just cop the fine

 

[ouryears]

Great to see Billy get off. A sensible decision one that will bring huge ratings to the 2018 Grand Final. He is the best since Changa and we will all miss seeing him play after Sundays game. A big win for our game,
Lancelot

I agree, I can’t believe all the boo ha about the tackle, it was nothing like a classic shoulder charge. People need to watch the charge Inglis put on dean young on utube to see a dead set shoulder charge. Get over it people, maybe Napa and Slater can sort each other out to make it interesting.

Storm hired the best defence, we would have Mary there trying to mutter his way through. That is the difference.

 

[St Georgio]

Go the Storm!
Hopefully when these two great players retire, Smith and Slater the Storm end up like Parramatta!

 

[theo]

Well the judiciary ruled that it wasn't a shoulder charge. lol If it looks like a duck, if it swims like a duck and if is quacks like a duck, well it is a duck.

The Queensland majority judiciary believed that it wasn't a shoulder charge. I disagree.

The NRL also decided that Inglis didn't do a crusher tackle on Lafai? It looked like a blatant crusher tackle to me. The NRL obviously have their protected species policy. Inglis, Slater and Smith have all been dirty players for a long time now, but the media never mentions it and always speaks about those 3 players in glowing terms, to say the least.

The judiciary ruling that Slater didn't shoulder charge made me think of this video

Enjoyed the video.

Credit to Inglis, Slater, Smith. They are internationals and have represented Australia honourably, however, the decision was wrong and Slater should have been suspended for one week https://forums.leagueunlimited.com/threads/judiciary-finals-bias.472954

 

[TruSaint]

Dear me, there's a good reason why this tackle was outlawed, along with the spear tackle, and the crusher tackle. The game is tough enough.

It can have dire consequences. I dont care if the players in this incident ended up fine and healthy. It opens a can of worms, and makes the NRL look like a bunch of useless pricks.

Why dont we ask the opinion of the Coroner John Lock, after the death of James Ackerman ? James's brother has expressed his outrage at the ruling, and he should have every right to do so.

Quote "
Brother of former rugby league player James Ackerman says judiciary decision is an insult to his memory "

From the Coroner... "

Coroner John Lock told the court Francis Molo made no contact with Ackerman's head or neck but the force upon his shoulder was enough to rupture an artery, resulting in death from a traumatic haemorrhage. "

Links...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-...-not-ackerman-brother-on-slater-call/10306028

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-...ast-falcons-killed-by-shoulder-charge/9133918

As much as we love this game, there is a reason why tackles are banned. This one ended up ok, but as per the evidence in the Ackerman case, the shoulder charge's impact can be deadly, whether it hits an opponent on the head, neck or even SHOULDER ...

Good luck to Slater.. Not his fault in getting off, but shame on the NRL.

Change the fricken rules or enforce them.