Slater or Hayne

[CliffyIsGod]

Hayne. Easily.

 

[badav]

I'm not sure the question was about who has had a longer career.

1) have you seen every parra and every melbourne game this year?
2) do you seriously think slater has played more consistently this season?

Yeah , lets compare Haynes 2 weeks of good form, to a bloke whos playing in a team that can't get any points in the season.

Good one.

I don't think there would be another bloke in league that has as many band wagon supporters jump out of the woodwork as Jarryd Hayne. A month ago i wonder how many Parramatta supporters would be jerking him off like they are now.

 

[oldmancraigy]

Yeah , lets compare Haynes 2 weeks of good form, to a bloke whos playing in a team that can't get any points in the season.

Good one.

I don't think there would be another bloke in league that has as many band wagon supporters jump out of the woodwork as Jarryd Hayne. A month ago i wonder how many Parramatta supporters would be jerking him off like they are now.

I think there are more fans on teh 'anti-bandwagon'

take away the last 3 weeks and Hayne has still been the best FB in the comp this year - most consistent. Not his fault he can play at an absolutely elite level at times.

Slater has been worse than Dugan and Boyd - let alone Hayne.

And even IF the guy HAS been playing on a team that can't get any points, that's not my fault. I didn't tell him to sign for $650k (or whatever) - doesn't change the fact that Hayne, Boyd and Dugan are all currently playing better.

 

[RHCP]

Darius Boyd has been much better than Hayne this year.

Please stop giving Parramatta fans a bad name with outlandish comments.

 

[Red Bear]

Slaters much more consistently excellent, but Hayne at his best, as rare as it seems to occur, is better.

 

[Loudstrat]

Yeah , lets compare Haynes 2 weeks of good form, to a bloke whos playing in a team that can't get any points in the season..

What the hell has THAT got to do with anything? Are you saying Slater is a sook and doesn't want to play anymore??????

Barrell scraping for a reason to hate Hayne or what!

 

[Moffo]

cliffy, you're a goose

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Lol at the Hayne haters.

 

[RHCP]

I don't know how so many people can suddenly fit in one little wagon.

 

[Eels Dude]

I don't know how so many people can suddenly fit in one little wagon.

Yeah you're right, the Hayne jealosy bandwagon is really getting up there with numbers.

 

[RHCP]

Shame the jealousy bandwagon can't get their numbers up.

 

[CliffyIsGod]

cliffy, you're a goose

-1/10

 

[Eels Dude]

Shame the jealousy bandwagon can't get their numbers up.

They're trying pretty hard. They're winning so far.

 

[Binga]

I've never seen try saving tackles ever in any stat count... Where is your source for those stats Binga?

Big League Magazine. It's a stat they have every week. To be fair, i don't think the stat covers only try saving tackles, i think it also might cover trys saved off kicks etc... but still shows that haynes positional play is quite good actually.

 

[IFR33K]

Big League Magazine. It's a stat they have every week. To be fair, i don't think the stat covers only try saving tackles, i think it also might cover trys saved off kicks etc... but still shows that haynes positional play is quite good actually.

No bro, stop talking sense. What do the experts know. The LU members know more.

Seems every time a ball is kicked, and jarryd doesnt get to it on a full or a try is scored against the eels, jarryd is found to be out of position.

 

[timka4]

I don't think it's always Hayne's positional play that is the problem, it's more his urgency to get somewhere in defense. The only time I can think from memory where he has shown real urgency is the tackle against David Stagg

 

[Eelementary]

I think we need some perspective...

They're two totally different players with different skill sets, despite playing the same basic position. In MY opinion:

* Positional Play - Slater

Whilst Hayne has improved, Slater is the master. Whether it's positioning to catch a kick, clean up a grubber, save a try or simply positioning to catch an offload from a forward, he is rarely in the wrong place.

* Running game - even

Slater uses his explosive pace and agility. Hayne uses his fancy foot work and power. Both are a sight for sore eyes when they bust the line.

* Bomb defusal - even

I know you'll all say, "How dare you? Are you blind?" But as I see it, both players have one major deficiency each: Hayne lets the ball bounce too often; he refuses to attack the ball. He is improving, but he still does it. Slater is also likely to drop/knock-on a bomb as he is to defuse it. I am not having a go at him - he is a wonderfully gifted player. But it's no secret he has dropped some bombs with little to pressure (see the 2009 GF for an example).

It is because of those two deficiencies I'd say they're about even. But Slater does tend to attack the ball more, for what it's worth.

* Organising the defensive line - even

I haven't noticed Slater too much to be brutally honest but he obviously sets the line well. Hayne is learning to yap away and plug gaps in the line and is taking control.

* Play-making/organizing - Hayne

Hayne has a great array of kicks and passes, and he has some great vision, too. Slater is no mug, but when your team boasts stars like Smith and Cronk, and an in-form Finch to play third fiddle, you find your role to play a play-maker is not essential. Hayne plays in a side where the play-makers are hot and cold, meaning he has to take more control. And he does so well - he regularly sets up tries and linebreaks for us.


I hope you can appreciate I have tried to be as objective as possible. My main point is that both players are wonderful athletes and bring something different to the table, so choosing one over the other, in my opinion, doesn't reflect on the other player's ability at all.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Only thing that the two players have in common is they both do kick returns. Haynes strength is his line breaking and ball playing, Slater with his support play and backline movements. They play different roles in their teams and they both do it well, dont let the number and the position name fool you.

 

[oldmancraigy]

I don't think it's always Hayne's positional play that is the problem, it's more his urgency to get somewhere in defense. The only time I can think from memory where he has shown real urgency is the tackle against David Stagg

No offense timka4 - but that might be more a memory issue of yours.

The fact that he's made more 1.5 more trysavers than anyone else in the comp might just indicate a bit of urgency.

Sure, his facial expression is fairly flat and devoid of emotion and he "plays it cool" a lot of the time (catching kicks in one hand etc) - but a casual persona does not necessarily equal a lack of urgency.
And when you consider he makes more meterage per kick return and the most trysavers, you might start to think that he has a bit more urgency than the average punter gives credit for.

 

[legend]

I prefer Hayne but look at Slater's numbers. He has scored 110 tries in 171 matches (or thereabouts) and Hayne has scored 55 from 100 matches. Both sets of stats are phenominal.

Slater supports more than Hayne and has better playmakers setting him up for tries but he is instinctive and always knows where to be.

Hayne is more the playmaker and can blow a game wide open at the drop of a hat. I think Hayne is more skillful than Slater but in a two horse race, they are neck and neck.