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Slater or Hayne

Slater vs Hayne


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oldmancraigy

Coach
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11,903
I love how Slater is winning ,but members if the Hayne wank train,wont accept it...
But,but,but,but.

the average punter on here also thinks Dugan should've been NSW fullback...

and the average punter here was happy that Gidley was selected at FB for game 1.

Let's not pretend that the average LU punter has any idea about the game of rugby league eh?

Love it how all the 'pro-Slater' crowd conveniently overlook the fact that he's hardly turned up this season at all.
 

meatloaf

Juniors
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340
Billy Slater

-2009 Clive Churchill medalist
- 2010 Wally Lewis medalist
- Australias Greatest Athlete two times running
- 2008 Dally M award ( should of been )
and much more
 

SDM

First Grade
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7,600
Billy Slater

-2009 Clive Churchill medalist
- 2010 Wally Lewis medalist
- Australias Greatest Athlete two times running
- 2008 Dally M award ( should of been )
and much more

Greatest athlete:lol: Slater can paddle a boat across a ditch faster than fat dell, give him a payrise
 
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There is a reason bookmakers are rich and thats because the average punters like you are dopes,plod plod you go.
There is reason why mommy gives you special private time ,so that tards like you can try to interact with the general public via the internet.
 

SDM

First Grade
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Was that the only challenge?

No. It was an action packed 10 weeks of television.

I think he also beat a car driver with a monobrow in an egg and spoon race.

And got beaten by a ranga in the sandcastle building competition.

All good evidence of his superiority over Hayne.
 

netic

Juniors
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119
All i know is i would want Slater in my team, slater has been a quality Player for five years, Hayne is yet to show that sort of consistancy
 

Schiltzenberger

Juniors
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416
Get over yourself, he's better then Kenny, just watch some f**king tape.
I have seen all I need to see, I don't need tapes, I'm old enough to remember how good Kenny was. Hayne may end up better than Kenny but he isn't there yet. You need to get off your knees.

So f**king what if kenny won GF's, did ET?, Wally, Pearce, Roach etc etc win any?
It's not the be all and end all, but he did win 4 of them and played great in them as well. Hayne was in 1 last year did nothing, he even sat back while Inglis caught the uncontested bomb that pretty much sealed the game. There is no excuse for that, any other fullback would've ran in and took it, Hayne often sits back and lets his wingers and centres take these catches. Most fullbacks only do that if they can't get to it, some of the kicks Hayne can get to but he still sits back.

Shane Perry won a GF, your whole argument is crap.
Winning GFs isn't my whole argument, don't make up nonsense. Kenny played well in the big games and outplayed Lewis in Origin more often than not. He also kept Lewis, an immortal, out of his position on the 82 Kangaroo tour. Hayne can't even take Slaters spot yet, he only just knocked Gidley out of the NSW fullback position.

Hayne is talented, just accept it, he does everything that Kenny did plus more, even Kennys trademark intercept is in serious doubt of being taken over by Hayne.
I've said that all along, you really are stupid. I don't doubt Haynes talent, I love watching him. My point is that morons like you are putting him in front of a club legend like Kenny, which is ridiculous. He may get there, well he probably will, but not after only having stepping up for about 15 games in the last couple of seasons.

Every single thing that kenny had which made him great Hayne has, it is all on tape.
Consistency? GF wins? Professional attitude?
Kenny never cried about being out of position, Hayne was a whinging bitch until he got put at fullback, when at 5/8 he gave up and never tried to play at all. In Origin whenever we lost he'd have the old "I was on the wing" excuse, Kenny would never have done that.

Oh he threw a dummy in a GF:roll:
Shows that you are not a real Parra fan if you try to sum up Kenny's time at the Eels with that sort of crap. :crazy:
Oh Sterlo did a grubber kick..
Oh Grothe bumped someone off..
Oh Price mad a few tackles..
Oh Hindy saved a try..
Is that how you'd some up those players? you are pathetic.

Kenny from 87-93 was just a bumbling mess, who couldn't even overtake Michael Speecly at 5/8:lol:
By that stage he'd played 7 seasons at Parra, he'd won 4 GFs and was one of the greatest players in the game over that time. If he was playing with the 10m rule he'd have carved up every week, not just at the back end of the season. Sure he'd lost some pace but 87 onwards Parra were a bumbling mess, all the way up until the SL war. He showed amazing loyalty to stick around, if Hayne had to play with some of those scrubs I'd doubt he'd hang around. He may even take off after this contract, he was whinging about money only months after signing his new $500k/year contract.

As I said, Hayne is a great player but he needs to do it week in week out to be considered better than other club legends and so far he hasn't done that. He looks like one of the best when he is on but he can't just be on in the last 3rd of the season.

Oh, and everything Kenny was great at, Hayne is better at, simple, hell, Kenny couldn't even kick a ball lol
He was a running, ball playing 5/8, and he didn't need a kicking game. He had Sterling there, if Hayne had Sterling he'd rarely kick it as well. Although that's obvious to anyone that knows the game.

To me this would be like Todd Carney playing great to the end of this season, then doing nothing next year until round 17 and then having a few great games. Would any Rooster fan in their right mind say he was better than Fittler after that? No, because they'd look like an idiot.

I love Hayne and I think he is very talented, he probably will end up better than Kenny, but to say he already is better is stupid.
To say he has more talent and can do more things doesn't mean much either, the average 1st grader has more talent and skills these days than the great players of the past, it's just evolution.
 

Binga

Juniors
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576
Watch it yourself and make up your own mind. Hayne made 3 or 4 ripper try savers against Manly last time we played them and also on Inglis in origin 1. His positioning sometimes may not be the best, but as far as defence goes he's a very strong defender.

The biggest myth at the moment is about Hayne and his inability to defend. It actually appears that Hayne is the best at try savers in the league.

Stats for try savers as of round 19 - we know that Hayne also had another two from the bulldogs game.

1. Jarryd Hayne - 16
2. Luke Pattern - 12
3. Darius Boyd - 12
4. JosH Dugan - 12
5. Beau Ryan - 12

Billy slater ?????
 

DC_fan

Coach
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11,980
The biggest myth at the moment is about Hayne and his inability to defend. It actually appears that Hayne is the best at try savers in the league.

Stats for try savers as of round 19 - we know that Hayne also had another two from the bulldogs game.

1. Jarryd Hayne - 16
2. Luke Pattern - 12
3. Darius Boyd - 12
4. JosH Dugan - 12
5. Beau Ryan - 12

Billy slater ?????

I think the problem is that there is a myth about there being a myth about Haynes poor defense.

The fact that Hayne may lead the stats in try savers doesn't mean a whole lot. It could show that the Eels defense in front of him is pretty damn poor meaning he has to make the tackle.

As for Billy being not on the list. Well just maybe the Storm defense in front of him is good enough for him not to have to make so many try saving tackles.
 

Binga

Juniors
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576
But people all the time question haynes positional play. Surely the fact that Hayne is making this many try savers means that his positional play is not as bad as people make it out to be.
 

oldmancraigy

Coach
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11,903
All i know is i would want Slater in my team, slater has been a quality Player for five years, Hayne is yet to show that sort of consistancy

I'm not sure the question was about who has had a longer career.

1) have you seen every parra and every melbourne game this year?
2) do you seriously think slater has played more consistently this season?
 

WaznTheGreat

Referee
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24,406
Billy has done nothing this whole season and people say "His is so consistent".well there correct he is consistently average.
 

perverse

Referee
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26,683
Kurt Gidley not being in those stats raises my eyebrow a bit. he makes about 4 try saving tackles every damn match due to the Knights soft as f**k defence.

having said that he's missed a fair bit of footy through origin and injury...
 

joseph1

Juniors
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460
I cant believe people have forgotten Jarryd played for 3 years in rep teams solidly before 2009 even began. And seem to believe that 15 or so singlehanded matchwinning performances out of 45 odd games is a poor achievement. For one man thats incredible. All Slaters tries
seem to be off Cronk chips or Smith grubbers. Slater doesnt have the same
ball skills either. If they both retired now yes Slater has done far more but keep Hayne at fullback for NSW and Parra for 5 more years and Slater will be outdone.
 

Eels Dude

Coach
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19,065
I've never seen try saving tackles ever in any stat count... Where is your source for those stats Binga?
 

RHCP

Bench
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I recall seeing those stats in a newspaper, more than likely the Telegraph. I also remember a Tackle Saves count, which I'm guessing is shutting down linebreaks.
 

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