Get over yourself, he's better then Kenny, just watch some f**king tape.
I have seen all I need to see, I don't need tapes, I'm old enough to remember how good Kenny was. Hayne may end up better than Kenny but he isn't there yet. You need to get off your knees.
So f**king what if kenny won GF's, did ET?, Wally, Pearce, Roach etc etc win any?
It's not the be all and end all, but he did win 4 of them and played great in them as well. Hayne was in 1 last year did nothing, he even sat back while Inglis caught the uncontested bomb that pretty much sealed the game. There is no excuse for that, any other fullback would've ran in and took it, Hayne often sits back and lets his wingers and centres take these catches. Most fullbacks only do that if they can't get to it, some of the kicks Hayne can get to but he still sits back.
Shane Perry won a GF, your whole argument is crap.
Winning GFs isn't my whole argument, don't make up nonsense. Kenny played well in the big games and outplayed Lewis in Origin more often than not. He also kept Lewis, an immortal, out of his position on the 82 Kangaroo tour. Hayne can't even take Slaters spot yet, he only just knocked Gidley out of the NSW fullback position.
Hayne is talented, just accept it, he does everything that Kenny did plus more, even Kennys trademark intercept is in serious doubt of being taken over by Hayne.
I've said that all along, you really are stupid. I don't doubt Haynes talent, I love watching him. My point is that morons like you are putting him in front of a club legend like Kenny, which is ridiculous. He may get there, well he probably will, but not after only having stepping up for about 15 games in the last couple of seasons.
Every single thing that kenny had which made him great Hayne has, it is all on tape.
Consistency? GF wins? Professional attitude?
Kenny never cried about being out of position, Hayne was a whinging bitch until he got put at fullback, when at 5/8 he gave up and never tried to play at all. In Origin whenever we lost he'd have the old "I was on the wing" excuse, Kenny would never have done that.
Oh he threw a dummy in a GF:roll:
Shows that you are not a real Parra fan if you try to sum up Kenny's time at the Eels with that sort of crap. :crazy:
Oh Sterlo did a grubber kick..
Oh Grothe bumped someone off..
Oh Price mad a few tackles..
Oh Hindy saved a try..
Is that how you'd some up those players? you are pathetic.
Kenny from 87-93 was just a bumbling mess, who couldn't even overtake Michael Speecly at 5/8:lol:
By that stage he'd played 7 seasons at Parra, he'd won 4 GFs and was one of the greatest players in the game over that time. If he was playing with the 10m rule he'd have carved up every week, not just at the back end of the season. Sure he'd lost some pace but 87 onwards Parra were a bumbling mess, all the way up until the SL war. He showed amazing loyalty to stick around, if Hayne had to play with some of those scrubs I'd doubt he'd hang around. He may even take off after this contract, he was whinging about money only months after signing his new $500k/year contract.
As I said, Hayne is a great player but he needs to do it week in week out to be considered better than other club legends and so far he hasn't done that. He looks like one of the best when he is on but he can't just be on in the last 3rd of the season.
Oh, and everything Kenny was great at, Hayne is better at, simple, hell, Kenny couldn't even kick a ball lol
He was a running, ball playing 5/8, and he didn't need a kicking game. He had Sterling there, if Hayne had Sterling he'd rarely kick it as well. Although that's obvious to anyone that knows the game.
To me this would be like Todd Carney playing great to the end of this season, then doing nothing next year until round 17 and then having a few great games. Would any Rooster fan in their right mind say he was better than Fittler after that? No, because they'd look like an idiot.
I love Hayne and I think he is very talented, he probably will end up better than Kenny, but to say he already is better is stupid.
To say he has more talent and can do more things doesn't mean much either, the average 1st grader has more talent and skills these days than the great players of the past, it's just evolution.