Slightly more seriously...

[Spank]

I am not from the Macarthur region, but could it be the stigma of the
Wests Magpies that is the problem? I'm 35 and I'll be bu$%#ggered if
I can remember the maggies ever having won a game. If memory serves
me correctly, they only had about 4 fans anyway.

Given the choice of Canterbury and Wests, who do you think the kiddies
would support? Only the Balmain side of the merger is associated with
recent success, with great players from the past such as Pearce, Siro,
Benny, Jimmy Jack, blocker with a profile .... All were outstanding
gentleman, high profile and an ornament to the game.

The only part of West's history that they hang onto now days is
with the 70s thugs, Newtown's Raudonikas and his Manly mate
Les Boyd. Their thuggery is no longer part of the game so why
even bother trading on their past profile. They frighten away the mums
from football so their kiddies go to AFL.

The real problem is that the people of the Macarthur just don't
want to be associated with mediocrity and past thuggery of the Maggies.

The solution is obvious. Change our colours back to black and
gold, and change the name to the Balmain Tigers. That way,
the people of the macarthur can follow the Balmain Tigers and one
day aspire to moving out of the gutter, into the more affluent regions
of sydney.

What an utter load of garbage. I have read more intelligent things written by a 5 year old.

 

[innsaneink]

Wests have never settled anywhere.
First few years at Concord
40/50 odd at Ashfield.
Nearly 30 at Lidcombe.
12 at Cambo.

You cant get established and achieve loyal patronage if you keep up n moving, you end up with a very wide, broad yet brittle network as opposed to one strong solid central fan base that genarations grow with.

Cambo/Livvo...all the same to me, all the same to most people Id assume bar those that actually live there. Ones slightly closer than the other. muh.

 

[madunit]

What I can't understand is that we're playing a team like Parramatta at Homebush this weekend when its our home game.. same when we play the dogs.

Wouldn't we be better off playing the out of town teams like NZ, Canberra, Gold Coast, Brisbane at ANZ (If we HAVE to play there)

This year a smart man would of done this.

Rnd 1: vs St George @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 4: vs Panthers @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 6: vs Souths @ Leichhardt.
Rnd 8: vs Brisbane @ ANZ.
Rnd 11: vs Gold Coast @ ANZ
Rnd 13: vs Cowboys @ ANZ
Rnd 14: vs Parramatta @ Leichhardt.
Rnd 16: vs Warriors @ ANZ
Rnd 18: vs Storm @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 21: vs Bulldogs @ Cambelltown
Rnd 24: vs Manly @ Leichhardt
Rnd 25: vs Sharks @ Leichhardt.

This would ensure sellouts @ the REAL home games, ensuring a good atmosphere @ 8 of 12 home games, as well as creating a genuine fortress and still being able to 'atleast' break even (if you believe Noyce & co).
The ANZ games we make money no matter how many turn out. Id rather sacrifice those 4 games to Whoredome.

so judging by your proposition of games, you are stating that Melbourne aren't out of towners.

tidy work

 

[SaveTheChildren]

What an utter load of garbage. I have read more intelligent things written by a 5 year old.

No doubt your reading list consists largely of the under 5s.

Spanky, at the ripe old age of 29, what was the greatest
Wests victory that got your juices flowing? Or was it the
first time you saw Skando in shorts?

You are innaneink in internet drag.

 

[SaveTheChildren]

You idiot.

Wests are the strength in the relationship and the day will come when they piss you Balmain merkins off.

It can't come quick enough.

I admire your enthusiasm Raging Rabbit, but don't you think you
should wait until Russ and the gang has finished reading Souths
the last rites before you join the Tigers and worry about Balmain/Wests
infighting!

 

[chunk]

Wests have never had many fans, I don't think the joint has ever been sold out.

The majority of Wests Tigers fans are form the Balmain side and the JV would die on its arse if it wasn't for them.

And I just hope the original poster doesn't forget it, especially now that the Balmain will be financially strong with the new Leagues Club.

Leichhardt gets great crowds with only three games, Cambo has no excuses.

If the Macurther and Wests people want more games out there, you have to show you derserve it!

Maybe we need to come to the realisation that Wests Tigers fans prefer Leichhardt over Cambo.

Is that serious enough!!!!!

 

[Vicious]

Wests have never had many fans, I don't think the joint has ever been sold out.

The majority of Wests Tigers fans are form the Balmain side and the JV would die on its arse if it wasn't for them.

And I just hope the original poster doesn't forget it, especially now that the Balmain will be financially strong with the new Leagues Club.

Leichhardt gets great crowds with only three games, Cambo has no excuses.

If the Macurther and Wests people want more games out there, you have to show you derserve it!

Maybe we need to come to the realisation that Wests Tigers fans prefer Leichhardt over Cambo.

Is that serious enough!!!!!

If you want decent juniors coming through the club (and the Wests Tigers will never ever be in a position to poach talented juniors from other clubs), then you must maintain games in the Liverpool-Macarthur district no matter what.
It`s quite simple, the Wests Tigers would not survive without a strong junior base and if they do anything to further distance themselves from the Liverpool-Macarthur region, then the club will fold !!!
It`s quite clear, plain and simple, yet some of you don`t seem to understand !!!
Back to Westie`s initial statement, I do believe that a new stadium in Liverpool where the Bulldogs were going to build is the way to go. It may only be 20mins up the road from Campbelltown, but it is a much more central location and should be looked at as the Wests Tigers future base !!!

Ask youself this simple question, who was the last decent footballer that was a genuine Balmain junior, from the Balmain junior district (not a cast off from Parramatta, Penrith or the Bulldogs), who was available to represent the Balmain district (being NSW and Australia) and who was a genuine class player ???
Now you can only half claim Robbie Farah as he is from original Magpie territory and these days Bulldogs territory, but poached to Leichardt Wanderers (who was that coach ? He should be the President of the BDJRL, obviously the smartest bloke to come through the club in 100 years !) and the only other recent claim to fame is Mark O`Neill who was a good honest toiler, but nothing more and certainly wouldn`t make our current side, even if he was at the peak of his career !!!)

 

[madunit]

!!!

 

[Vicious]

Vish this junior nursery argument is f**king bollocks and we all know it
Tell me how many juniors Melbourne and Easts have ?
It's all down to scouting but when your recruitment manager is looking after his own mongoloid sprog whilst the melb bloke is finding a folau or slater then it doesn't matter does it

Melbourne and the Roosters have the money to throw at talented young players to bring them to the club at a young age, we don`t that`s the difference !
The Parramatta junior clubs are nearly all loaded and poach talented young players from the Wests (Liverpool-Macarthur region) on a regular basis as the junior clubs in the Wests district don`t have money to pay players at a young age !

 

[Raging Rabbit]

I admire your enthusiasm Raging Rabbit, but don't you think you
should wait until Russ and the gang has finished reading Souths
the last rites before you join the Tigers and worry about Balmain/Wests
infighting!

Thanks for the advice "pop" but I'm quite enjoying the second death of the tiggers.

Go Wests.

 

[Vicious]

No they have better scouting networks
We have missed Folau, Inu, Hayne, the Paea brothers (Lipini would walk into our side)
Meanwhile we had plenty of coin for Ronald's sprog ... please

The blokes you mention were on decent money from the age of 13-14, we simply don`t have the money to compete when the rich clubs start throwing it around.
It`s only a matter of time before they again start allowing the third party payments to be made to players. When that starts happening it`s just going to make it even harder for us to keep our players as we have no rich backers who will put their hand in their kick and help us out !

 

[Raging Rabbit]

Haven't soufs got a petrol sniffing junkie from eveleigh st to scout you turd ?

f**k you Hymie.

lmao @ balmain. :lol::lol:

 

[Vicious]

I thought you wests lot had a cash cow in wests ashfield ?
What happened to that ... so allegedly so rich you could go it alone with Ashfield funding yet the same club that won't tip in 5k for a junior Inu, Hayne, Paea etc.
Lucky we had the coin to make sure we didn't lose the prized junior burger

Wests Ashfield don`t put any money into the junior league because Wests Campbelltown don`t put any money into the senior Wests sides. Wests were really a merged club even before they merged with Balmain to form the Wests Tigers and I don`t think the Wests Magpies would be anywhere in a position to be a stand alone club in this day and age, but then again, either are Balmain.
There is only one scenario that will keep the Balmain Tigers and the Western Suburbs Magpies alive in the top flight competition and that is to do their best in backing the Wests Tigers and making sure we have a steady flow of talented juniors coming through. That will only happen by keeping the Liverpool-Campbelltown area in the picture.

 

[hrundi99]

What I can't understand is that we're playing a team like Parramatta at Homebush this weekend when its our home game.. same when we play the dogs.

Wouldn't we be better off playing the out of town teams like NZ, Canberra, Gold Coast, Brisbane at ANZ (If we HAVE to play there)

This year a smart man would of done this.

Rnd 1: vs St George @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 4: vs Panthers @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 6: vs Souths @ Leichhardt.
Rnd 8: vs Brisbane @ ANZ.
Rnd 11: vs Gold Coast @ ANZ
Rnd 13: vs Cowboys @ ANZ
Rnd 14: vs Parramatta @ Leichhardt.
Rnd 16: vs Warriors @ ANZ
Rnd 18: vs Storm @ Cambelltown.
Rnd 21: vs Bulldogs @ Cambelltown
Rnd 24: vs Manly @ Leichhardt
Rnd 25: vs Sharks @ Leichhardt.

This would ensure sellouts @ the REAL home games, ensuring a good atmosphere @ 8 of 12 home games, as well as creating a genuine fortress and still being able to 'atleast' break even (if you believe Noyce & co).
The ANZ games we make money no matter how many turn out. Id rather sacrifice those 4 games to Whoredome.

The higher profile games against the Bulldogs/Eels/etc should ideally draw crowds bigger than what the traditional grounds can hold, and that's why they are played at ANZ.

 

[crouching_tiger]

The higher profile games against the Bulldogs/Eels/etc should ideally draw crowds bigger than what the traditional grounds can hold, and that's why they are played there.

But they don't. Why accommodate a white elephant(ANZ) when the figures over recent years clearly show against those teams we would fill either LO or CS to capacity comfortably. ANZ pays the bills before a ball is even kicked, so we should be playing at ANZ for the estimated poor turnout matches.

 

[hrundi99]

Those games SHOULD be getting crowds of 25/30,000...crowds which clearly wouldn't be able to fit into the other grounds, and they've done so in the past...

29542 Wests Tigers v Bulldogs Stadium_Australia 19-Aug-2005
27865 Wests Tigers v St George Illawarra Stadium_Australia 10-Mar-2006
25166 Wests Tigers v Sydney Roosters Stadium_Australia 10-Aug-2007
22877 Wests Tigers v Souths Leichhardt 24-Jul-2005
22511 Wests Tigers v Bulldogs Stadium_Australia 02-Jul-2006
22245 Wests Tigers v Parramatta Stadium_Australia 04-Jun-2007
21456 Wests Tigers v Parramatta Stadium_Australia 23-Jul-2006

 

[crouching_tiger]

22511 Wests Tigers v Bulldogs Stadium_Australia 02-Jul-2006
22245 Wests Tigers v Parramatta Stadium_Australia 04-Jun-2007
21456 Wests Tigers v Parramatta Stadium_Australia 23-Jul-2006

So all thes games can fit into LO at full capacity. And CS at full capacity with very few missing out.


29542 Wests Tigers v Bulldogs Stadium_Australia 19-Aug-2005

Final rounds of a premiership winning season where WT were about to go into the top8 for the 1st time ever.


27865 Wests Tigers v St George Illawarra Stadium_Australia 10-Mar-2006

Round 1 of a NRL season(double header?).


25166 Wests Tigers v Sydney Roosters Stadium_Australia 10-Aug-2007

Would've filled LO and CS to capacity. with 2500 missing out. A one off.


Would make more sense to fill a smaller stadium to capacity with a few fans missing out and generating an ongoing rush for ticket sales to continue to fill these home grounds.

Put up the rest of the crowd attendances and not just ones that suit.

 

[hrundi99]

Would make more sense to fill a smaller stadium to capacity with a few fans missing out and generating an ongoing rush for ticket sales to continue to fill these home grounds.

Good businesses don't turn away cutomers, especially when the venue means your profit margin is minimal.

Put up the rest of the crowd attendances and not just ones that suit.

I put up WT's biggest all time crowds, and just imagine, they were against the Eels, Dogs, Dragons and Roosters - proving my point.

 

[crouching_tiger]

And that's why WT crowd numbers are on a continual downslide since 2005. Go figure.

Ever heard the one "the customer's are ALWAYS right"??

Well WT don't seem to agree with that cliche.... ;-)

 

[crouching_tiger]

especially when the venue means your profit margin is minimal.

Exactly my point!! That's why WT should be doing MORE to get FULL HOUSES at CS and LO.