Some real honesty

[roboshark]

It’s not that at all. It’s more pure disinterest - “I’m not getting the ball, why would I look like I am?”. They’re literally walking in a bunched group - they’re not waiting for the next play.

I’ve never seen a playing group look so disinterested when they have the ball.

Because most of them are pure shit

 

[Frailty]

Because most of them are pure shit

Which makes worse if they don’t even put in the work. If this was just a talent issue, I’d be ok with it.

This is lazy and disinterested players.

 

[Stake Removed]

I've always been meh about Cam

I got shouted down when I didn't what him resigned.
He is past it

 

[Cheese sandwich]

I got shouted down when I didn't what him resigned.
He is past it

Calling bullshit on you getting shouted down about that.

 

[Weaponhead]

McInnes = Finucane 2.0.

 

[Peach & Apricot]

McInnes needs to retire at end of this year.

 

[Generalzod]

This is my truth I have falling out of favour with the game, I don’t love it anymore as I used to, players penalised for slaps, Trindall‘s so called late tackle was a joke, the six agains are ruining the game causing more injuries, the game is so contrived and it favours the strong clubs, penalties that are given in one game ain’t given in an other for doing the same thing . The game is a joke.

 

[Frank Discussion]

This is my truth I have falling out of favour with the game, I don’t love it anymore as I used to, players penalised for slaps, Trindall‘s so called late tackle was a joke, the six agains are ruining the game causing more injuries, the game is so contrived and it favours the strong clubs, penalties that are given in one game ain’t given in an other for doing the same thing . The game is a joke.

I hate this line of thinking. It’s an easy way out and that the proof the refereeing doesn’t matter is every year the best team wins the comp, the two best teams are in the grand final and the worst teams come last and second last. You rise above it if you want it bad enough.


It is just amplified now they’ve gone from being a decent side to a mediocre one.

Ashley Klein is however a very poor referee and the call on Trindall for kick contact was a terrible one that broke their resolve when they were *just* hanging on.

Both these things can be true.

The club is farked now. I hate blaming one bloke but the decision to throw so many eggs into the Hynes basket, when it is clear he is a mid tier player, has totally screwed the balance of the side.

Fitzy is in a real pickle. There just isn’t the depth to go swinging the axe. Dropping Kennedy for Hynes gives no guarantee he will excel there and Akko is a question mark at best. Giving Talakai more minutes at Cams expense goes nowhere to fixing the overall issue.

Fitz would have had a very sleepless night last night because without wholesale roster change there is no way out of this quagmire.

I can’t recall an era for the Sharks where we were blessed with such a talented squad who under delivered so badly.

 

[Frailty]

I hate this line of thinking. It’s an easy way out and that the proof the refereeing doesn’t matter is every year the best team wins the comp, the two best teams are in the grand final and the worst teams come last and second last. You rise above it if you want it bad enough.


It is just amplified now they’ve gone from being a decent side to a mediocre one.

Ashley Klein is however a very poor referee and the call on Trindall for kick contact was a terrible one that broke their resolve when they were *just* hanging on.

Both these things can be true.

The club is farked now. I hate blaming one bloke but the decision to throw so many eggs into the Hynes basket, when it is clear he is a mid tier player, has totally screwed the balance of the side.

Fitzy is in a real pickle. There just isn’t the depth to go swinging the axe. Dropping Kennedy for Hynes gives no guarantee he will excel there and Akko is a question mark at best. Giving Talakai more minutes at Cams expense goes nowhere to fixing the overall issue.

Fitz would have had a very sleepless night last night because without wholesale roster change there is no way out of this quagmire.

I can’t recall an era for the Sharks where we were blessed with such a talented squad who under delivered so badly.

"I hate blaming one bloke, but I'm going to blame one bloke"

It's not Hynes fault that club decided to extend Kaufusi after one average-at-best season. It's not Hynes fault that Fitzgibbon has zero interest in blooding a young player unless absolute last resort. It's not Hynes fault that Trindall is an absolute liability in defence. It's not Hynes fault that Ramien can't breaking a tackle let alone a line. It's not Hynes fault Ronnie seems more focused on being a pest rather than being a scary winger to come up against.

Fitz should be having nightmares because he has made this an entitled playing group that is never held accountable. Sure, he can stress the importance of movement off the ball and to be genuine options, but unless he follows through with hooking players not contributing to it they won't change.

There needs to be a big culture change in the team, and I don't think Fitz is able to be the one to drive it.

 

[Generalzod]

"I hate blaming one bloke, but I'm going to blame one bloke"

It's not Hynes fault that club decided to extend Kaufusi after one average-at-best season. It's not Hynes fault that Fitzgibbon has zero interest in blooding a young player unless absolute last resort. It's not Hynes fault that Trindall is an absolute liability in defence. It's not Hynes fault that Ramien can't breaking a tackle let alone a line. It's not Hynes fault Ronnie seems more focused on being a pest rather than being a scary winger to come up against.

Fitz should be having nightmares because he has made this an entitled playing group that is never held accountable. Sure, he can stress the importance of movement off the ball and to be genuine options, but unless he follows through with hooking players not contributing to it they won't change.

There needs to be a big culture change in the team, and I don't think Fitz is able to be the one to drive it.

Well if he can't he should fall on his sword and f**k off, go back to the Roosters. Yestarday game was just another nail in the coffin, after the match he was just sitting in his chair just staring at the abyss, If the Storm performed the way we did how would you think Bellamy would react??, Just ask the Storm players about Bellamy's outburst.

 

[Craigshark]

"I hate blaming one bloke, but I'm going to blame one bloke"

It's not Hynes fault that club decided to extend Kaufusi after one average-at-best season. It's not Hynes fault that Fitzgibbon has zero interest in blooding a young player unless absolute last resort. It's not Hynes fault that Trindall is an absolute liability in defence. It's not Hynes fault that Ramien can't breaking a tackle let alone a line. It's not Hynes fault Ronnie seems more focused on being a pest rather than being a scary winger to come up against.

Fitz should be having nightmares because he has made this an entitled playing group that is never held accountable. Sure, he can stress the importance of movement off the ball and to be genuine options, but unless he follows through with hooking players not contributing to it they won't change.

There needs to be a big culture change in the team, and I don't think Fitz is able to be the one to drive it.

nah, it’s all Hynes fault.

Never seen so many people turn on one player so quickly. Yeah, a lot of it is justified as his form hasn’t been upto scratch, but I think some people forget there’s 16 others out there, as well as some pretty sub-par coaching from the outside looking in.

 

[Weaponhead]

nah, it’s all Hynes fault.

Never seen so many people turn on one player so quickly. Yeah, a lot of it is justified as his form hasn’t been upto scratch, but I think some people forget there’s 16 others out there, as well as some pretty sub-par coaching from the outside looking in.

Thats fair but it is the lot of the marquee player. Bouquets when the team is winning. Abuse when they are losing.

 

[Ozzi_78]

Team in all sorts, in wanders Frank right on time.

 

[shadowboxer]

Team in all sorts, in wanders Frank right on time.

Quality over quantity

 

[Craigshark]

Thats fair but it is the lot of the marquee player. Bouquets when the team is winning. Abuse when they are losing.

I honestly don’t think it would matter who our halfback was at the moment the way the majority of the rest of the team has been plodding along.

 

[Since 73]

I honestly don’t think it would matter who our halfback was at the moment the way the majority of the rest of the team has been plodding along.

See i take the opposite view.
I see a side that is top 4 and proven in this comp who's compass is totally scrambled and cannot get it back.

I link it all to the point last year where the 7 tried and failed at SOO level and refused to move on.
We were flying in the leadup to game 1.
From that point we have nose-dived to the point where we are now probably going to miss the finals.

And rather than Fitz saying to the bloke - 12 months ago - go away and get your head together the whole joint has walked on eggshells because of who he is and bent over backwards to accommodate him.

The fact the main man is so far out of form has quickly filtered through to every aspect of the side.

Hynes is done.

 

[Craigshark]

See i take the opposite view.
I see a side that is top 4 and proven in this comp who's compass is totally scrambled and cannot get it back.

I link it all to the point last year where the 7 tried and failed at SOO level and refused to move on.
We were flying in the leadup to game 1.
From that point we have nose-dived to the point where we are now probably going to miss the finals.

And rather than Fitz saying to the bloke - 12 months ago - go away and get your head together the whole joint has walked on eggshells because of who he is and bent over backwards to accommodate him.

The fact the main man is so far out of form has quickly filtered through to every aspect of the side.

Hynes is done.

can see your point of view, and it may be right, but the fact Hynes has been out of form shouldn’t be the reason for Kennedy being f**ken useless, ramien doing dumb shit ever since he has come into first grade, McInnes dropping the ball most weeks in our first set, trindall going for an intercept after 6 minutes after fronting the media only days earlier about having tough conversations, kaufusi and Nikora making terrible first contact leading to offloads and missed tackles and points, blowing our captains challenges in the first 10 minutes of the game on 50/50’s we are never going to have go our way.. these guys are getting paid big bucks, there’s no excuse for some of the inexcusable shit they’ve served up.

I feel Hynes is a bit like latrell. Needs a cuddle every now and then. You could say we’ve bent over backwards for him, but in reality all Fitzgibbon has done is take him from being the main man when we were flying with Atkinson at 5/8, to putting trindall next to him and confusing them both by not telling them who’s who. It’s shit coaching.

 

[Since 73]

If you watch 360 past night they have John Singleton on.
They should have had him on for 60 minutes. This guys RL pedigree is 2nd to none. The stories of what he's done in the game that can be told on TV are great.
The ones that can't are better.

On 53 mins he says RL is the greatest game.
Anasta asks him why.
He explains its like life. Boys learn to be men. The best dont always win - its the ones who work the hardest on the day who win.
The 'flash nancys' they'll do something good occasionally, but they'll never win you anything, they'll never make you successful.

I know I took something from that.

This is a bloke who knows what it takes to be successful. Grassroots to the core but dined with Packer and hung with Gibson and that underbelly element as well for decades.
Def no angel this bloke.

Took Newtown from the edge of extinction to the GF. Knew he needed winners. Blokes who knew what it took to succeed in this game.
He gathered some of the toughest men to ever coach or play the game.
The Wok.
Tommy.
O'Grady.
Bowden.

What he said about flash nancies was not a throw away line. It's was an integral part of a 30 second soliquay on what it takes to be successful in RL from a bloke who knows from over 60 years of experience.

 

[Stake Removed]

McInnes needs to retire at end of this year.

Totally agree he adds nothing to the team

 

[Stake Removed]

can see your point of view, and it may be right, but the fact Hynes has been out of form shouldn’t be the reason for Kennedy being f**ken useless, ramien doing dumb shit ever since he has come into first grade, McInnes dropping the ball most weeks in our first set, trindall going for an intercept after 6 minutes after fronting the media only days earlier about having tough conversations, kaufusi and Nikora making terrible first contact leading to offloads and missed tackles and points, blowing our captains challenges in the first 10 minutes of the game on 50/50’s we are never going to have go our way.. these guys are getting paid big bucks, there’s no excuse for some of the inexcusable shit they’ve served up.

I feel Hynes is a bit like latrell. Needs a cuddle every now and then. You could say we’ve bent over backwards for him, but in reality all Fitzgibbon has done is take him from being the main man when we were flying with Atkinson at 5/8, to putting trindall next to him and confusing them both by not telling them who’s who. It’s shit coaching.

A cuddle no way, I would prefer it being like Raudionkis in the sheds some face slapping, toughen him up.
Hynes needs a rocket, told to man up