'Sporting Apartheid'

[redvscotty]

http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.holroyd.nsw.gov.au%2F__data%2Fassets%2Fpdf_file%2F0015%2F6126%2Fmcredieparkpom.pdf&ei=dzJTTpzHIoXjiALPjMGADQ&usg=AFQjCNEI-kiCSkgIXkoEQ7rueP878Gxh5w

"A lease is currently held by the GRLFRC for the property on which the club premises are located, the bowling greens and part of the parking area. Under the terms of the lease, an agreement exists between Council and the GRLFRC regarding use of the playing fields at certain times."

I didn't see a bit in there about putting up signs saying RUGBY LEAGUE ONLY - EVERYONE ELSE f**k OFF.

EDIT: Not familiar with Sydney as such so might be wrong. It was a quick google search.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

He's not being honest about the use of McCredie Park either:
http://www.holroyd.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0015/6126/mcredieparkpom.pdf

I'd give the prick a call if I was a ratepayer - which I shamefully claimed to be.

• rugby league;
• hockey;
• cricket;
• baseball;
• lawn bowls;

He's a lying merkin.

 

[Mr Angry]

From Council documents 2008 - no suprise he is a liar.

Not only is it not a RL only park, it also partly funded by the RL club that uses it.

Liar.

Ringrose Oval was first leased in 1963 to the Wentworthville Leagues Club which has held the lease since this time. The area leased by the Club is shown on Figure 2.1. The leasing agreement was renewed in 1996 and will in turn expire in 2016. The terms of the current lease give the Leagues Club access to Ringrose Oval throughout the year. In the winter it is used by the Wentworthville Leagues Club football teams and in the summer it is used by the Wentworthville Leagues Club cricket teams.
When the Oval is not required by the Leagues Club, it is hired to various organisations and sporting groups through the Ringrose Park Local
Committee.
The current lease stipulates that the Leagues Club is required to pay for all maintenance and repairs to Ringrose Oval and the surrounding area. In addition the Club pays for the floodlighting cost on Monty Bennett Oval
and the Netball Courts.

http://www.holroyd.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0010/6130/Ringrose_Park_POM.pdf

 

[RL1908]

Is this a public oval or 1 that is attached to a club who oversees the maintenance?

If it is not fenced off and secured then I hazard a guess they are not being serious about maintaing the ground

As far as I know the Gipps Road Sports Complex is unfenced and anyone can just walk in. There is no Leagues club or similar nearby. It is a Council ground leased for junior Aust rules club Goannas. There is no senior Aust rules club based there or using it as a home ground.

Ringrose (Wenthworth Leagues) and Macreadie (Guildford Leagues) are both fenced grounds used for senior football matches, with the Leagues directly adjoining.

I think the issue isn't that certain grounds are used exclusively for organised matches under one code that has leased a ground for that purpose, but whether it is appropriate that access is freely available to anyone wanting to kick a ball or go for a run when matches aren't being played. The norm in Sydney/NSW is that grounds are free to be used unless organised clubs/games are taking place.

 

[azza29]

Dumb move by the AFL, nothing wrong with them giving the council funding for a footy ground but to put up an 'AFL only' sign is hardly going to endear them to the local community.

 

[Joker's Wild]

Cheers RL1908

How bloody rediculous of them to think that they can ban other sports

 

[Goddo]

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=862027&page=2

LT Smash
Bulltish, the vast majority of people in Melbourne don't know the NRL from the ARL or the ARU. It's all rugby to us.

For those unaware, LT Smash is BDGS.

Between him, R_Premiers and BuffaloRules there is a bit of quality trolling going on. The AFL nuffies here should take note as to how to do it properly.

 

[RL1908]

Cheers RL1908

How bloody rediculous of them to think that they can ban other sports

Well, it's just a sign, and one that appears to have no authority. There is no Council logo or authorisation on it.

I doubt that any Council ranger or officer would have any power to do anything if there was no game/training (per the lease) being undertaken at the time.

 

[TimmyB]

More from John Perry:

Tim McCredie main oval is rugby league only cricket and hockey are played on a separate ground and cricket has not been played on Ringrose for years it is played on Monty Bennett oval beside Ringrose and is cricket only. The local afl club built the ground at Gipps road on the late 70's and provided most of the maintenance costs until the afl provided some funding a couple of years ago,so I look forward to talking to you

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

More from John Perry:

This guy sounds like an arrogant tool on a boggerball crusade to cleanse the unwashed masses.

 

[El Diablo]

Well, it's just a sign, and one that appears to have no authority. There is no Council logo or authorisation on it.

I doubt that any Council ranger or officer would have any power to do anything if there was no game/training (per the lease) being undertaken at the time.

there is a logo http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20110817185946754

matches the council logo too

 

[juro]

Well, it's just a sign, and one that appears to have no authority. There is no Council logo or authorisation on it.

I doubt that any Council ranger or officer would have any power to do anything if there was no game/training (per the lease) being undertaken at the time.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Don't they need to state things like the amount of the fine, the legislation behind the rule, stuff like that? Normal council signs have whole lists of things you can't do...

 

[RL1908]

I don't know where this myth about RU in Sydney in 1890s taking up all the grounds to block Aust rules started.

RU was the more popular code and it got the lease for Saturday afternoons on the SCG, but gave way for rep games of any code. There were other enclosed grounds in the suburbs and the old Showground (which RL used as its main base 1907-1912).

Perhaps they are suggesting that RU should have vacated the SCG for every Saturday to help Aust rules grow? RU in Melb in the 1890s struggled away on unfenced suburban fields too, and the MCG wasn't handed over to them to help their cause.

FOOTBALL IN SYDNEY BEFORE 1914
M. P. SHARP, CANBERRA
from Sporting Traditions Vol 4 No 1 Nov 1987

In the early 1890s public interest in rugby grew rapidly and Australian rules disappeared. In April 1894 a racy sporting and political gossip weekly, the Bird O'Freedom, asked 'What has become of the Australian game of football in Sydney' and at the end of 1895 the only Australian football clubs in New South Wales were in Riverina, Albury and Wagga, regions which were economically and culturally bound to Melbourne rather than Sydney.

Bad luck, poor management, squabbling between clubs, the loss of the Association Ground, the poor showing of New South teams, and a failure to develop a strong junior competition all contributed to the disappearance of the game from Sydney.

 

[RL1908]

there is a logo http://www.worldfootynews.com/article.php/20110817185946754

matches the council logo too

You're right - couldn't see that on my phone screen. Well, that is astounding.

 

[El Diablo]

I don't know where this myth about RU in Sydney in 1890s taking up all the grounds to block Aust rules started. .

bigfooty

 

[POPEYE]

Victorians have been cutting down Rugby posts since the 1920's mate.

Well there's your answer. Get some of the lads together and make the ground unplayable until the sign is removed. A few holes here and there, dogshit all over, cut down some posts.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Well I hope these AFL only grounds are built on sink holes, that'll f**k em.

 

[RL1908]

The Council logo isn't on the pic in today's SMH...

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...tackle-sporting-apartheid-20110822-1j6tr.html

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

Well there's your answer. Get some of the lads together and make the ground unplayable until the sign is removed. A few holes here and there, dogshit all over, cut down some posts.

The new AMMI park where the Storm play now was supposed to be a RL ground 50 years ago, the VFL bought the land or leased it to stop RL.

Essendon supposedly had a RL club for a few seasons as well and when they'd go to play games, the posts would be chopped down the night before on occasions.

I'll see if I can find the link.

 

[ParraEelsNRL]

http://www.mooneevalleyweekly.com.a...ercame-odds-in-1950s/1896196.aspx?storypage=1

Essendon District Rugby League overcame odds in 1950s
BY TEO PELLIZZERI
27 Jul, 2010 12:00 AM
THEY couldn't find a ground, their goalposts were cut down, they faced opposition in the community, and yet Essendon District Rugby League Football Club was one of the best in the nation.
As reported in the Moonee Valley Weekly last month, rugby league support in the area is being led by retired AFL player Ross Christensen with a view to establishing a junior team by next year.

Should the push for a team yield a senior side by 2013, it would be 60 years exactly to the time when Essendon laid claim to being the state's premier rugby league club.

Essendon fielded a rugby league team from 1951 to 1956 in a Victorian competition consisting mainly of military and air force servicemen based in Victoria.

However, it was the re-assignment of Australian National Airways pilot Bob Jackson, a Canterbury-Bankstown player that led to the birth of Essendon's team.

An advertisement in the Essendon Gazette requesting rugby league players attracted a handful of interested Victorians, one of whom was 23-year-old Frank MacDonough.

"The team grew from word of mouth, people we knew, we contacted the RAAF at Laverton and Point Cook and a lot of them were from NSW," MacDonough, now 80, said.

"In all the league ended up with 12 teams. For Essendon, getting a ground was a problem.

"Bob Jackson flew out of Essendon on a trip to Tassie one day on the north-south runway and as he went over Aberfeldie Park he spotted a little piece of land - council said yes and that became our ground."

With the league pulled together in a short time to start in 1951, rugby league was on the rise and was met with staunch parochialism from the Australian Rules establishment.

On two occasions Essendon's players went to Aberfeldie Park on the Sunday after a match to find their goalposts on the ground, sawn down by vandals.

"I talked to a lot of people at that time that hated rugby, Aussie Rules born and bred," MacDonough said.

Essendon's one Victorian premiership came in 1953. But it had other high achievements in the game, such as its contribution of five players to a Victorian team that played France at Richmond Cricket Ground in May 1955.