Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens

[Last Week]

Yeah. Thats it. There's also a part I read where he was also reincarnated as one of the seperatists in epsiode 2. The delegate of the banking clan. Bald grey guy.

Same species. Muun.

 

[ek999]

Pretty disappointed about Captain Phasma. Nothing bad arsed about her character barring her armor. All she amounted to was a cheesy attempt at humour with the whole 'Fins the bowss now bish!' And agree with others, they need to stop it with this whole death star/star killer shit.. It was old in RoTJ ffs! Especially since they really didn't give it much gravity apart from the destruction of planets we know f**k all about (we were supposed to care?), and the whole "2 minutes till it blows!" cliche.
Also did any1 else feel like Fisher phoned it in, or is her face that tight that she can't show emotion any more? ?

Thought the positives vastly outnumber the cons imo.
Han and Chewy were great together again, as were Fin and Rey Very intrigued by the whole Rey, Kylo relationship. Although I found the end duel to be bit of a cop out considering Rey beats his arse without any training with a lightsaber or the force.. Where it would appear Kylo has been honing his abilities over the years to emulate his grandfather. Apart from that, the duel looked really good. Not over choreographed ala Obi and Vader in III. The stokes all had plenty of weight and feeling in them just like Vader Vs Luke in Jedi (My fav saber duel)

The practical effects were amazaballs as was the CG. Sound was great and Williams knocked it out of the park again with his score! The action wasn't overdone, but rather kept up a nice pace.

Overall, really enjoyed the movie. 3rd best in the franchise imo. It felt and sounded like a Star Wars film!

Kylo had been injured pretty badly by Chewie before the final duel with Rey so it is pretty understandable that she could beat him IMO

 

[alien]

this movie is awesome!

 

[alien]

Okay.... very good. Marginally better than Jedi but nowhere near as good as Empire or A New Hope.

A more in depth analysis from me later.

3 out of 5 stars.

4.5 stars!

 

[Captain Apollo]

No jar jar?!

Only Jar Jar is in this whacked out trailer someone did for The Force Awakens. Enjoy - https://youtu.be/yo7_qW4pPrc

 

[Last Week]

Kylo had been injured pretty badly by Chewie before the final duel with Rey so it is pretty understandable that she could beat him IMO

He was injured and still knocked out Rey by throwing her into a tree with the force before being taken down a peg by Fin.

The final fight annoyed me. It looked great, but Kylo was being matched by a f**king Stormtrooper (Fin) and Rey, with absolutely no knowledge of the force, was able to mentally manipulate a trooper and resist Kylo who had been trained for years!

Anakin, who was the most force sensitive person ever, couldn't do anything like that without training. But here is Rey, probably a Skywalker, seemingly has more potential than Anakin Skywalker.

Luke was trained by Obi Wan and Yoda and still got his arse handed to him by Vader ffs. Rey on the other hand, with absolutely no training, could match it with Kylo, who had been trained by Snoke and Luke? Come on.

It was a good film. Looked good, every fight and battle scene was good, the story was mostly good but fairly inconsistent in alot of ways. I was hoping for more Luke Skywalker but I understand why it is the way it is.

 

[legend]

Think I might have to watch it again, not in 3D to let it all sink in. IMO, Rey may be Luke's daughter as having another set of twins (from Leia and Han) would be too repetitive and cliched IMO although another death star style attack was again the main battle. Good to see Admiral Ackbar get a run. Phil Gould must have set aside some time to do a small cameo...

Obviously Luke will be central to the next two but where was Lando? Wedge turned down the chance to re-appear in The Force Awakens and I liked his character. Also, did I see an X wing pilot with Biggs helmet on?

 

[PJ]

Bit sick of the death star setup as well, and also the saving a family member and bringing them back arc, but apart from that I loved it.

Up there with ANH and above all others bar ESB.

 

[saint.nick]

It will probably be shown why Rey was so capable of beating Kylo. We need to stop freaking out over unanswered questions.

 

[ek999]

He was injured and still knocked out Rey by throwing her into a tree with the force before being taken down a peg by Fin.

The final fight annoyed me. It looked great, but Kylo was being matched by a f**king Stormtrooper (Fin) and Rey, with absolutely no knowledge of the force, was able to mentally manipulate a trooper and resist Kylo who had been trained for years!

Anakin, who was the most force sensitive person ever, couldn't do anything like that without training. But here is Rey, probably a Skywalker, seemingly has more potential than Anakin Skywalker.

Luke was trained by Obi Wan and Yoda and still got his arse handed to him by Vader ffs. Rey on the other hand, with absolutely no training, could match it with Kylo, who had been trained by Snoke and Luke? Come on.

It was a good film. Looked good, every fight and battle scene was good, the story was mostly good but fairly inconsistent in alot of ways. I was hoping for more Luke Skywalker but I understand why it is the way it is.

Rey must have some training in the force. How else would she know how to use the Jedi mind trick? This movie has left a lot of unanswered questions that if you view it in isolation can be annoying or major plot holes but hopefully will be answered in Episode VIII

 

[Last Week]

Rey must have some training in the force. How else would she know how to use the Jedi mind trick? This movie has left a lot of unanswered questions that if you view it in isolation can be annoying or major plot holes but hopefully will be answered in Episode VIII

They'll have to. The only thing that I can think of is Rey was left on Jakku by Luke when she was young. She'd received some training but stopped when Ben Solo turned and Luke stopped training the new Jedi order. Doesn't really explain her skills with a light saber though.

 

[saint.nick]

Kylo is growing on me more and more after I watched that.

 

[adamkungl]

Rey learned the jedi mind trick intuitively from Kylo's attempt to use it on her - she's a talented, self reliant person and probably Luke's daughter. And was already accomplished in close combat. Fin, while a Stormtrooper, has also almost certainly had a life of combat training, and MAY be force sensitive - there were enough hints.

I think people are massively overrating Kylo's ability. He is powerful with the force, but may well be an average swordsman due to his volatile temper and weak character + the injuries he sustained. To me he seems like a brainwashed tool, a blunt instrument to be used by someone far more powerful and influential.

He is not Vader or remotely equivalent to him. While Vader's generals were often disdainful towards the force and sometimes Vader, he quickly bent them to his will through fear. Kylo's military companions hold him in outright contempt with little fear of the consequences.

I suspect as his training is completed he will evolve into a more fearsome enemy in the next 2 movies.

 

[Parra Pride]

They'll have to. The only thing that I can think of is Rey was left on Jakku by Luke when she was young. She'd received some training but stopped when Ben Solo turned and Luke stopped training the new Jedi order. Doesn't really explain her skills with a light saber though.

She seemed fairly capable swinging that staff of hers around. The skill may not be completely transferable, but she still wouldn't be a complete amateur with the saber. We also know Kylo isn't fully trained, as Snoke intends to complete his training, presumably we will see that results of that and Kylo at full power in Episode VIII. Kylo was also trying to turn Rey to the dark side, so I'd say that along with already being hurt by Chewie, he wasn't using his full strength against her. So sure, at face value it seems a bit weak that he was taken down so easily, but there were a lot more factors going into that fight than simply Kylo fighting against someone who hasn't swung a saber before.

 

[saint.nick]

Rey learned the jedi mind trick intuitively from Kylo's attempt to use it on her - she's a talented, self reliant person and probably Luke's daughter. And was already accomplished in close combat. Fin, while a Stormtrooper, has also almost certainly had a life of combat training, and MAY be force sensitive - there were enough hints.

I think people are massively overrating Kylo's ability. He is powerful with the force, but may well be an average swordsman due to his volatile temper and weak character + the injuries he sustained. To me he seems like a brainwashed tool, a blunt instrument to be used by someone far more powerful and influential.

He is not Vader or remotely equivalent to him. While Vader's generals were often disdainful towards the force and sometimes Vader, he quickly bent them to his will through fear. Kylo's military companions hold him in outright contempt with little fear of the consequences.

I suspect as his training is completed he will evolve into a more fearsome enemy in the next 2 movies.

I thought the exact same thing about Kylo when that fight happened, he can't be that good if a novice is kicking his ass like this, despite his injury. He's just a petulant little shitbag who thinks he is better than he actually is, thinks he is Vader reincarnated.

 

[adamkungl]

Let's not forget that Vader was a petulant little shitbag. But he was as good as he thought he was, until he was crippled by lava...

 

[Parra Pride]

Kylo was trained by Luke at first, who himself was never even fully trained as a Jedi. If not for convincing Vader to turn back to the Light Side he'd have lost in Jedi. Kylo clearly didn't finish his training with Luke, and he still has training left to do with Snoke. The guy will be a much more formidable enemy when we next see him. Hopefully they get the message that he can't be turned after killed Han, and we can just get some Jedi battle to the death between him and Rey or Luke, maybe even Fin, I'd genuinely be surprised if he didn't end up being force sensitive as well.

 

[Aragorn]

I felt a little sorrow for Kylo. Kid has issues coupled with an inferiority complex. I reckon he's probably also suffering from depression, and was in shock after killing his father. Thats the only way I can explain how he's able to get the shit kicked out of him by a sanitation trooper and a rubbish collector. Maybe he needed the mask so no one could see him crying.

In VII we'll probably find out he got bulled at jedi school and uncle luke was a prick who refused to help or give him special treatment.

 

[DiegoNT]

It's said that kylo was sent to luke for training, and that luke couldn't save him from turning to the darkside, it's never really stated how much training kylo received from luke. While he seems powerful to begin with (and really the character is trying to put on a show) the cracks start to appear, he regularly makes mistakes, he is racked with self doubt, and it only takes the minimal amount of fightback from someone with force powers (rey in the interrogation scene) for him lose his shit. He spends the whole movie trying to find Luke (it's important to him personally to find luke, others in the first order don't care so much as long as the resistance can't find luke they are happy), so maybe kylo himself knows his training is far from complete

 

[sandshark]

I liked that Kylos real name was Ben. A throwback to the EU.
You could really see Han was going to die.
I'm hoping Ep 8 has a lot more lightsaber battles.

I have to watch again to get a better understanding.
Mostly enjoyed however.