Sydney Roosters, protected species. Cows screwed again

[souths_pride]

Good god. What?

So you're saying if someone's extending their arms back past their feet, the ball has to be propelled backwards hahahahaha? So if i extend my arms backwards and try to flick the ball towards my body (IE FORWARD) it goes backwards? It can but it probably doesn't

How about you stand up, reach your arm backwards and try to grab an imaginary ball by flicking it towards your head. Tell me whether or not the ball can go forwards. OF COURSE it does

Jesus christ some of you blokes have no logic

This is something that is better demonstrated in real life rather than being lost in translation over the internet. Like I said for me its all about body position. If your facing your own in goal line it becomes alot harder for your to propel the ball forward. Lui was facing his own in goal line and the ball was initially battered backwards but then traveled forward when it hit the ground. After watching replays of it again, I think its a more of a line ball but I still would have awarded it a try.

 

[souths_pride]

This is how this sort of situation was explained to me a while back by someone who would know. Having said that, I didn't think it was an awful call (albeit likely wrong). The SBW one was the real shocker.

Again, not that much Cowboys whinging, in the press or on here, but the trolls will continue.

Yeah knocks on/forward passes, as is my understanding, all have to do with the way the ball is propelled.

 

[thorson1987]

Yeah knocks on/forward passes, as is my understanding, all have to do with the way the ball is propelled.

And the ball was propelled forward off of Lui's arm.

 

[CC_Roosters]

Watching nines intro to the coverage tonight, i have lost a tonne of respect for Johns the way he is carrying on about last night.

Well done to sterlo for calling it plain and simple a knock on.

 

[Danish]

Well done on your 100percent fluke win!

Enjoy it. You would have been very worried last night

Yeah it was a little hairy there. We almost didn't get to walk out winners.... almost.

Kinda felt the same as 2 weeks ago. You know, when we stomped your side into the ground then conceded some late points?

You keep about your businss rubbishing us and trying to convince yourself that you are going to win on friday. Otherwise I fear the nerves you are obviously feeling about suffering your 3rd failed finals campaign may just get the better of you ;-)

 

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Watching nines intro to the coverage tonight, i have lost a tonne of respect for Johns the way he is carrying on about last night.

Well done to sterlo for calling it plain and simple a knock on.

He would never disagree with gus, if you look really close when they are together you can almost see the strings.

 

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Yeah it was a little hairy there. We almost didn't get to walk out winners.... almost.

Kinda felt the same as 2 weeks ago. You know, when we stomped your side into the ground then conceded some late points?

You keep about your businss rubbishing us and trying to convince yourself that you are going to win on friday. Otherwise I fear the nerves you are obviously feeling about suffering your 3rd failed finals campaign may just get the better of you ;-)

Three weeks in a row you have clocked off, definitely something to be worried about.

 

[BranVan3000]

Watching nines intro to the coverage tonight, i have lost a tonne of respect for Johns the way he is carrying on about last night.

Well done to sterlo for calling it plain and simple a knock on.

Nines death riding of referees is atrocious and has led to the game and its supporters becoming a self destructive, whinging mess. You think player's disrespect for refs is because of the refs? No it's because of years of Gould's hypocritical condemning of every action of the refs from using the video ref system to not using it. And then every other commentator slowly jumped on that bandwagon. Why would players or fans respect the refs when the "voices" of the game are constantly undermining them?

 

[Joker's Wild]

Gould, Johns and Lewis all need to go. They are nothing but overly bias, shallow thinking dickheads

At least Freddy gets the lols

 

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Nines death riding of referees is atrocious and has led to the game and its supporters becoming a self destructive, whinging mess. You think player's disrespect for refs is because of the refs? No it's because of years of Gould's hypocritical condemning of every action of the refs from using the video ref system to not using it. And then every other commentator slowly jumped on that bandwagon. Why would players or fans respect the refs when the "voices" of the game are constantly undermining them?

Add to that coaches shouldn't be allowed to comment on refs AT ALL, they all use them as an excuse.

 

[Danish]

Three weeks in a row you have clocked off, definitely something to be worried about.

We clocked off in round 26. I wouldn't say we clocked off in week 1. The lead was never more than a try so there was no time to. Last night was really just a huge momentum swing rather than us conceding easy points through laziness. Cowboys got their points either through individual errors (2 x mini drops), or repeat sets and pressure.

Besides, Souths haven't managed to play for more than 1 half of footy in 6 weeks. 50 odd mins against the Eagles, 15 at the end of the game against us, 15-20 against th dogs, and can't really say they ever stood up during the game against the cowboys. Their consistency is just as much in question as ours is.

Difference is, we know how to win prelims. 6 from 6 since 2000. Losing grand finals is our favourite past time but winning prelims is something we know how to do

 

[Danish]

Nines death riding of referees is atrocious and has led to the game and its supporters becoming a self destructive, whinging mess. You think player's disrespect for refs is because of the refs? No it's because of years of Gould's hypocritical condemning of every action of the refs from using the video ref system to not using it. And then every other commentator slowly jumped on that bandwagon. Why would players or fans respect the refs when the "voices" of the game are constantly undermining them?

I honestly think it boils down to the majority of them being absolute mug punters who can't see past their own bets.

Freddy I can understand would be grating to people with is Roosters bias, but at least it comes from his heart. Similarly Lewis is dreadful for me to listen to and Halligan when NZ are playing is woeful, but both are unabashedly biased towards their supported sides.

Warren, Gould, and Johns often show as much if not more bias than the 3 mentioned above even when watching a neutral game (i.e not one with Parra, Penrith, or the knights). IMO they do this because they've taken a plunge on one of the sides and call the game based around who they WANT to win

 

[souths_pride]

Nines death riding of referees is atrocious and has led to the game and its supporters becoming a self destructive, whinging mess. You think player's disrespect for refs is because of the refs? No it's because of years of Gould's hypocritical condemning of every action of the refs from using the video ref system to not using it. And then every other commentator slowly jumped on that bandwagon. Why would players or fans respect the refs when the "voices" of the game are constantly undermining them?

I agree with your post 100% Gould is the biggest hypocrite in the game in terms of complaining about refereeing decisions. What really gets my goat is that he constantly bags the referees but he refuses to join sub-committees like the NRL rules committee and other bodies that are vested with the responsibility of deciding the rules and improving the game. If you look closely at Gould, its quite easy to realize that he knows little about the game but makes himself look knowledgeable by always glorifying the team that is winning. I didn't rate Gould as a player, I didn't rate Gould as a coach and I sure as hell don't rate him as a commentator.

 

[Chook Norris]

Gould complains that refereeing decisions are a lottery. His own calls on trys are an absolute clusterf**k of a lottery

 

[BranVan3000]

Add to that coaches shouldn't be allowed to comment on refs AT ALL, they all use them as an excuse.

Just another example of the result of this slippery slope. Coaches criticising refs has become a tactic, its allowed because this sort of ref blaming culture has fesetered and bubbled up through the media and now its getting into the fabric of the gam. And it's been let go to the point where fines aren't even occurring anymore. Five years ago it was not like this at all, and that was also around the same time Gould really starting ramming it into the refs. Now we are at a point where the refs are actually being criticised for making correct calls that "aren't in the spirit of rugby league", it is laughable.

 

[alien]

After watching replays of it again, I think its a more of a line ball but I still would have awarded it a try.

if it goes in line then its a knock on, because if you drop it directly down then its a knock on. also you can knock it forward if facing your own try line. imagine facing your try line but your arm stretched out towards your try line. if the ball comes off your hand or arm it can go forward a bit without it going over your head...

 

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Just another example of the result of this slippery slope. Coaches criticising refs has become a tactic, its allowed because this sort of ref blaming culture has fesetered and bubbled up through the media and now its getting into the fabric of the gam. And it's been let go to the point where fines aren't even occurring anymore. Five years ago it was not like this at all, and that was also around the same time Gould really starting ramming it into the refs. Now we are at a point where the refs are actually being criticised for making correct calls that "aren't in the spirit of rugby league", it is laughable.

Greenberg being too gutless to fine Bellamy for his attack on Klein and then getting his way with Klein dumped was the biggest indicator yo the likes of hasler and co that it's a free for all and you get your slippery slope. Greenberg has spent much of his reign as an ambitious guy scared to punish the big clubs for fear of reprisals latter on down the line when he wants the top job, that mentality in itself will ensure he never gets the gig. We need strong leaders who back our officials, anything less and you're sending them out each game with a target on their backs and no confidence to boot.

 

[souths_pride]

if it goes in line then its a knock on, because if you drop it directly down then its a knock on. also you can knock it forward if facing your own try line. imagine facing your try line but your arm stretched out towards your try line. if the ball comes off your hand or arm it can go forward a bit without it going over your head...

I think if its line ball then its play on isn't it? Like with a flat pass; that's not ruled as being forward. I agree it is possible to knock on facing your own in goal line, but its alot harder to than if you were facing your opponents goal line. I would have still given it a try. I wonder if it had been awarded a try, whether or not the video referee would have overturned it?

 

[--Storm--]

f**k me that shepard at 30-30 would have put Cowboys 32-30 in front

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Lui says he knocked it backwards. I think we can certainly take the word of that outstanding member of the community. :roll:

Hope his missus has installed a panic room.