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What's worse ... code-hopping or racism? Simple question, with a simple answer.
pffft....code-hopping. easily.
pricks should be castrated, gassed & cremated.
What's worse ... code-hopping or racism? Simple question, with a simple answer.
You fool:
To answer your question, yes. Taking drugs and bashing someone to within an inch of their life is an indirect effect of drug use at best. It was the person who did the action. The girl was directly effected by the actions of the person bashing her. The drugs did not bash her. Makes sense, not every drug user bashes their girlfriend.
Howver, if someone steals my property I am always directly effected by not having property.
FYI: and I am positive this will be beyond you; Interestingly you can in criminal law sometimes blame drugs as playing a cause of the violence. If the drug user had his drink spiked and was suffering hallucinations caused by the drugs and thought as he was bashing his girl friend that he was defending himself from a monster he may claim the drugs had him acting automatically and he had not done the action deliberately so the aactus reus of the offence was not satisfied due to sane automatism, regardless of lacking the requisite intent which is the mens rea. Try selling that to a jury! But importantly - no scientist can say the drugs had the direct effect of causing the girl to be bashed. It does not happen every time someone takes drugs. Thus it is an indirect effect at best. But every time someone steals my property - I am directly effected.
Got it?
Good.
http://www.nrl.com/news/news/newsarticle/tabid/10874/newsid/59030/joey-remarks-forced-tahu-walk-out-on-nsw/default.aspxBlues great Brad Fittler believes the late team change could help NSW square the series on Wednesday.
"As a structural thing for the team, Joel Monaghan is probably a better winger than Timana Tahu," Fittler told BigPond Sports Weekend.
the more I think about it, the more I think something like this was what happened. He even asked Bellamy before he left, which means that he did not even walk out on the team, he asked if he could leave and Bellamy let him.Given the time between the incident and him walking away, it is possible- perhaps even probable- that Tahu went to those in senior position in the NSW camp and got nowhere.
If he did attempt to sort it out, I doubt he was stymied by any ingrained racism. It probably had more to do with the hero-worship Johns generates and the NSW heirarchy not wanting to upset their golden child.
So if Tahu tried and got nowhere, and felt strongly about what was said, the only way to force the issue would be to leave and allow the media to do its work.
http://www.nrl.com/news/news/newsar...arks-forced-tahu-walk-out-on-nsw/default.aspx
although I think Fittler's a bit of a tool for coming out and saying that at this point, I think the incident could help NSW in game 2, but not because Monaghan is replacing Tahu. I was actually thinking earlier, that the adversity and hurt preparations could help NSW fire in the face of it. Particularly after Joey quit as a result of it, which in my opinion he absolutely had to do
Well, no surprise to which tool this came from, but as a Qld'r I'd like to thank Joey for firing up amongst others; Thaiday, Thurston, Folau and last but not least... Inglis. :crazy:
Really just what the doctor ordered for Qld!![]()
Mmm ... I just made the point that the same NSW supporters that criticised Queensland for selecting Falou because of 'principle' are now calling Tahu a sook for taking a stand against racism.
What's worse ... code-hopping or racism? Simple question, with a simple answer.
is anyone watching the post game show on Fox? Gordie is being really upfront, i respect the dude.
And NSW supporters wonder why Inglis became a passionate Queensland fan, and chose to represent the state with a proud tradition of Indigenous representation, rather than the alternative.
It's all pretty clear now.
I really don't see why he would, there is no point to be proven in response to that, it's not like his talent was coming into question, if anything respect for his talent was within the comment, along with the racism. NSW have a lot more to play for than Queensland do at this point, and these sorts of disruptions cause origin sides to fire. If anyone needs or should even want to prove something, it's NSWYeah, because the bloke at whom that comment was directed, as well as the other "black c***" in his Qld team, won't want to prove a point... :roll:
It most certainly isnt beyond me you self rightous arsehole. What you are talking about is a defence to an action as viewed by the law, not a definition of the term indirect as most would view it.
Drug use directly causes obsesive and antisocial behavior in alot of users via a chemical reaction in the brain which leads them to cause harm to others closest to them. Remove the drugs and these behaviours stop. The fact that it doesnt happen to every drug user is irrevelant.
Yeah....because racism doesnt and never did exist in Queensland....
Yeah, if that's what you want to believe, no one's stopping you.I really don't see why he would, there is no point to be proven in response to that, it's not like his talent was coming into question, if anything respect for his talent was within the comment, along with the racism. NSW have a lot more to play for than Queensland do at this point, and these sorts of disruptions cause origin sides to fire. If anyone needs or should even want to prove something, it's NSW
Tahu is behaving like a princess.
I can understand the issue but the facts are Joey is a close mate. I am sure they could have sorted this out between themselves.
Tahu has put his agenda ahaead of the 16 other guys in the team and his state.
Poor form in my opinion.