Tasmanian Rugby League

[East Coast Tiger]

And next year it will take more than three years.

And then it'll be four years.

 

[taipan]

So they can't grow the game while shit is happening.

Therefore they can't grow the game.

They have f**ked with rules that didn't need touching because they are reactionary and out of touch. Meanwhile other issues that do need sorting are left to fester.

You said the game is not growing,you have the latest participation numbers?
You know what the story is with expansion?
Good then fill us in.
BTW the latest press release by the NRL ,spells out a new board for Newcastle involving Quayle

http://www.nrl.com/newcastle-knight...4/newsid/82932/default.aspx?cid=NRL_HP_Latest

Of course these things gathering high profile people to sit on an NRL club board,just happen with the click of a finger.No checking on their interest,no checking on their credentials,no checking on their vision for the game.It all just happens.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

You said the game is not growing,you have the latest participation numbers?
You know what the story is with expansion?
Good then fill us in.
BTW the latest press release by the NRL ,spells out a new board for Newcastle involving Quayle

http://www.nrl.com/newcastle-knight...4/newsid/82932/default.aspx?cid=NRL_HP_Latest

No I don't have the figures. Where are they published? They used to be in the ARL development annual report.

Maybe its too hard to print this when there are dysfunctional clubs and asada investigations.

 

[insert.pause]

And next year it will take more than three years.

And then it'll be four years.

I can understand you being frustrated but I can appreciate the size of the mess left behind by the dysfunctional ARL/News partnership and that getting the right governance structures in place upon which everything else will feed off is a priority in the short term. You can be critical based on higher expectations, but Smith has still done more in two years than Gallop did in ten.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I can understand you being frustrated but I can appreciate the size of the mess left behind by the dysfunctional ARL/News partnership and that getting the right governance structures in place upon which everything else will feed off is a priority in the short term. You can be critical based on higher expectations, but Smith has still done more in two years than Gallop did in ten.

When you have to compare to gallop to make someone look good you're struggling.

The reality is this administration is almost identical to the old one. Just as reactionary, out of touch and conflicted as ever.

 

[insert.pause]

When you have to compare to gallop to make someone look good you're struggling.

The reality is this administration is almost identical to the old one. Just as reactionary, out of touch and conflicted as ever.

it's context, the game was being run off a very low base and hence has a higher climb to get it where it should have been even 10 years ago.

 

[taipan]

No I don't have the figures. Where are they published? They used to be in the ARL development annual report.

Maybe its too hard to print this when there are dysfunctional clubs and asada investigations.

End of year annual report,when it is announced.

Collation of annual reports is all done in the twinkle of an eye.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Yes it is about context. The old admin had less money and less resources and was constrained by news.

This one has more cash more resources and is supposedly Inependent.

Yet they are just as reactionary, out of touch and conflicted. So when you put it in context it looks pretty poor.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

End of year annual report,when it is announced.

Collation of annual reports is all done in the twinkle of an eye.

Maybe they're still adding in all the fake touch figures to the real ones. In between salary cap investigations and club ownership issues.

 

[insert.pause]

Yes it is about context. The old admin had less money and less resources and was constrained by news.

This one has more cash more resources and is supposedly Inependent.

Yet they are just as reactionary, out of touch and conflicted. So when you put it in context it looks pretty poor.

Context, but only the parts that are convenient to your prejudice. You can't accept the game was run terribly, as a lack of resources or otherwise, and at the same time not appreciate the size of the task confronting Smith to fix it and modernise the games governance.

 

[taipan]

Maybe they're still adding in all the fake touch figures to the real ones. In between salary cap investigations and club ownership issues.

Or maybe they are spending time reading rl fans' posts who spend an inordinate amount of time ,bitching about them.
You know the ones who boo Santa Claus.

Why don't we bring back Gallop,or Moffett that'll solve the problems.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Context, but only the parts that are convenient to your prejudice. You can't accept the game was run terribly, as a lack of resources or otherwise, and at the same time not appreciate the size of the task confronting Smith to fix it and modernise the games governance.

I have accepted it was run terribly. And it still is. That's the point.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Or maybe they are spending time reading rl fans' posts who spend an inordinate amount of time ,bitching about them.
You know the ones who boo Santa Claus.

Why don't we bring back Gallop,or Moffett that'll solve the problems.

Nah. They're not reading or listening to fans at all. That's why they're so out of touch.

And as I've said, those who have to compare this lot to the likes of gallop are struggling big style. Gallop was a news lackey at a time when newa owned the game. What's the excuse now? Oh yeah two years isn't long enough. Just as three won't be. And four.

 

[taipan]

:crazy:

Nah. They're not reading or listening to fans at all. That's why they're so out of touch.

And as I've said, those who have to compare this lot to the likes of gallop are struggling big style. Gallop was a news lackey at a time when newa owned the game. What's the excuse now? Oh yeah two years isn't long enough. Just as three won't be. And four.

If they are not listening to fans,why do I get regular surveys from them (and I'm not the only one)asking for comments,criticism or suggestions.;They are hardly doing it to waste money.What I thought of food prices,ticket costs,transport,stadiums and I gave fiull barrels.

Crowds were down this year and Tv ratings,you think they are not aware and concerned FHS.

Well if contributing monies toward infrastructure is not helping fans,I'm not here.
If having special deals at times for fans to encourage attendance ,is not a good thing,then :crazy:

They got Newcastle back on track and the Tigers and the Sharks,and that is not helping the fans what the.
Getting the Titans up to speed will help their fans.

Games in Cairns/Perth/Bathurst/Darwin helps the fans in other states and regionals.Profits from canteens go to those areas.
Everyone including me wants things done immediately,it doesn't happen like that.We are shafted with a Tv channel 9 who does it's own thing.Gallop stuffed up by agreeing to F&L and we got it til end 2017.

I'm comparing this lot with Gallop/Moffet/and Arko &Quayle.

Now I understand the NRL working with the Vic Govt is getting a high tech training set up and academy in Melbourne and are looking for suitable sites.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

I used to be on NRL nation.

When I filled in my survey this year I never got an invite.

Perhaps it was because I said I had not renewed my club membership.

In any case they weren't interested in why. They weren't interested in anything I had to say obviously despite being a lifelong supporter of the game at all levels. Not that I was surprised. As I was filling it in I thought I won't get invited back this year.

They don't want to hear criticism. They don't want to hear opposition. They want reinforcement of their decisions. Its the same ego maniac culture that led to the gallen punishment.

So no they don't listen. Not if its not what they want to hear.

 

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I used to be on NRL nation.

When I filled in my survey this year I never got an invite.

Perhaps it was because I said I had not renewed my club membership.

In any case they weren't interested in why. They weren't interested in anything I had to say obviously despite being a lifelong supporter of the game at all levels. Not that I was surprised. As I was filling it in I thought I won't get invited back this year.

They don't want to hear criticism. They don't want to hear opposition. They want reinforcement of their decisions. Its the same ego maniac culture that led to the gallen punishment.

So no they don't listen. Not if its not what they want to hear.

Maybe they had filled the demographic quota for cranky old men?

I think they only take a certain number of the people from the previous year. It's nothing personal because it's all handled by a third party, not the NRL, and there would be little value in it if they only wanted positive feedback.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

Who are you calling old? I'm probably younger than you.

There's no evidence they listen to the fans anyway. Its lip service like everything else. There is little value in it except as a charade to give the impression they listen. They don't post results of surveys let alone act on them so there's no quantifiable outcome for the fans.

 

[insert.pause]

Who are you calling old? I'm probably younger than you.

There's no evidence they listen to the fans anyway. Its lip service like everything else. There is little value in it except as a charade to give the impression they listen. They don't post results of surveys let alone act on them so there's no quantifiable outcome for the fans.

If you believe that then why would you waste your time signing up for it in the first place?

It's not a cheap exercise to be just for the purposes of lip service.

 

[East Coast Tiger]

It is if you are an organisation who believes impressions are more important than substance. Its easier to look like you care what customers think than to actually act on it.

 

[TheRam]

You said the game is not growing,you have the latest participation numbers?
You know what the story is with expansion?
Good then fill us in.
BTW the latest press release by the NRL ,spells out a new board for Newcastle involving Quayle

http://www.nrl.com/newcastle-knight...4/newsid/82932/default.aspx?cid=NRL_HP_Latest

Of course these things gathering high profile people to sit on an NRL club board,just happen with the click of a finger.No checking on their interest,no checking on their credentials,no checking on their vision for the game.It all just happens.

Well I'll be f**ked! I don't believe it, they've actually made a decision and executed it perfectly, so much so that they have blown me away. What a brilliantly assembled board of directors. The Knights will be set from here on in, I have no doubt about it unless something extraordinarily bad happens from left field. What a board? If they aren't kicking arse in the next few years I'll be stunned.

I am soooo jealous. I wish they could do something like this for my team Parra. If there ever was a sleeping giant that need this kind of intervention, then it is Parra.

Boy I really was not expecting them to get it so right. Now if they can sell the Titans to that pommy billionaire, then we would have gone a long way to have solved two of the problem child's of the NRL that need to be very successful on a regular basis for the NRL to be going well.

Then all we need to do is fix the Eels, Tigers and the Dragons boards, Merge and or relocate the Roosters and the Sharks and we will have gone a long way to fixing some of the issues that have been plaguing the current Sydney clubs and it will then allow us to turn our focus to expansion, knowing that what we already have is on solid ground.