Team v Bulldogs

[Meth]

You probably don't watch all the Warrior games 3 times over like I do.

This raises more questions than it answers, like 'what crime did you commit?'...

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

You watched that Roosters game 3 times over and didn't realise that SKD & Ferguson were playing on the OTHER edge? You know, the edge that conceded those two tries? From high kicks? Scored by SKD?

Did I say he had been up against SKD and Fergusson? NO! Read properly it clearly states IF!

I do watch their game 3 times over as some people have to work and you clearly don't as you seem to think Lolohea took contested bombs in that game lol.

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

Johnson got crap for bombing to Lolohea in an earlier game not because Tui's bad in the air (he's not) but because we have a rather large Manu Vatuvei on the other wing.

He's so good in the air that of all the attacking bombs he's been given, how many has he scored of?

 

[JJ]

Both halves have been shit - yes by objective measures Robson has been more shit - but much lower expectations, and without looking I imagine Johnson's stats are boosted by a second half against a woeful Newcastle side who phoned it in

 

[ozbash]

Agree re SJ's spot on the shitometer but it's a team game...the spine has let itself down individually .

SJ lost his 7
Dobby is not up to first grade standard (by a long way)
Luke has been off his game big time for personal reasons..

The only one showing any go is RTS, and they want him to perform miracles single handedly..

 

[SpaceMonkey]

Both halves have been shit - yes by objective measures Robson has been more shit - but much lower expectations, and without looking I imagine Johnson's stats are boosted by a second half against a woeful Newcastle side who phoned it in

Robson was on the paddock at the same time, so can we assume his stats were similarly boosted?

A half's primary role is to direct attacking play and facilitate scoring, Johnson is ahead of Robson by 8 tries to one on that count.

 

[RHYTHM AND STEALTH]

A lot of wraps on Hingaro, but is it too early?

it is

hes a superstar in waiting but still got to let him develope

 

[JJ]

Robson was on the paddock at the same time, so can we assume his stats were similarly boosted?

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We could, or we could look at the sort of player he is and think nah, he's kind of ordinary so will be much the same at all times - bit like Leuluai a plodder

Johnson's often spectacular against poor teams and sometimes on big occasions for the Kiwis - he hasn't shown an ability to be consistent in the NRL - Robson at least has, but his ceiling is -pretty low

 

[MKEB...]

Am going to the game tomorrow; but geez there has been little to no marketing for it by the dogs for their
"home" game.

 

[Iron Lion]

Warriors are such a joke of a club. They buy one of the worst NRL halves in the game who just sucks in Robson. They play him 6 games and then drop him because ........... he's sucks. I mean what did they ever expect.

How does Watson hire his staff? can anyone get a job there?

 

[Meth]

I do watch their game 3 times over as some people have to work

What job do you do that forces you to watch 3x Warriors games a year?

 

[Penrose Warrior]

Anyway, I know the use of our bench has been a hot topic for a while...I have freely admitted in the past that I'm not a league guy. I never played the game. I've watched a shit tonne of it though, used to cover the game for a job, haven't missed a Warriors game since about 2006 etc.

Last week, our bench played 24, 18, 16 and 32 minutes each. Manly's played 41, 40, 21 and 20.

Last night the Eels, the No.1 placed side, 27, 39, 45, 50. The Broncos, who have a back on their bench, were 31, 45, 16 and 23.

There is no one in the NRL using their bench like ours. I know we have a few young guys, but doesn't every team under the salary cap? Is playing Ben for 70 minutes really getting the best out of him? I just can't see what McFadden is doing. Then he's in the Herald today, basically saying that it's not ideal Konrad is playing off the bench, and makes it pretty much sound like he's shoehorning him in to appease him. And there's one of the dunce-iest quotes I've ever seen, saying that if an outside back gets injured early he's a genius for carrying a back. Well then bugger the forward rotation, let's carry a five-eighth too. WHAT, WE ARE!?!

 

[Matua]

Anyway, I know the use of our bench has been a hot topic for a while...I have freely admitted in the past that I'm not a league guy. I never played the game. I've watched a shit tonne of it though, used to cover the game for a job, haven't missed a Warriors game since about 2006 etc.

Last week, our bench played 24, 18, 16 and 32 minutes each. Manly's played 41, 40, 21 and 20.

Last night the Eels, the No.1 placed side, 27, 39, 45, 50. The Broncos, who have a back on their bench, were 31, 45, 16 and 23.

There is no one in the NRL using their bench like ours. I know we have a few young guys, but doesn't every team under the salary cap? Is playing Ben for 70 minutes really getting the best out of him? I just can't see what McFadden is doing. Then he's in the Herald today, basically saying that it's not ideal Konrad is playing off the bench, and makes it pretty much sound like he's shoehorning him in to appease him. And there's one of the dunce-iest quotes I've ever seen, saying that if an outside back gets injured early he's a genius for carrying a back. Well then bugger the forward rotation, let's carry a five-eighth too. WHAT, WE ARE!?!

Regarding Mutts, it seems like McFadden overreacted to his idiotic decision to leave him on the bench for so long in the first game that now he's decided to run him into the ground.

 

[JJ]

McFadden's ahead of his time

 

[ZEROMISSTACKLES]

What job do you do that forces you to watch 3x Warriors games a year?

It's not fair I gotta tell everybody what I do for a job while everyone else doesn't lol. That's personal stuff mate.

You'll have to guess or take a gamble...

 

[Fufu Andronez]

I'm still optimistic about Tui in the halves despite all the whinging about him not being up to it. He has shown that he is a goer and I'd back him in to make a good go of this chance in the halves. This is where he wants to play and now he gets the chance to do that. Has played in basically every position that the team has needed him to and we never heard any rumbles about Tui has the shits and wants to leave, also didn't see any lack of effort in any of his games out of his preferred position. That shows to me that he has a fair bit more commitment about him than some other members of the team and none of this primadonna shit about him.

Judge him on what he can produce in this spine not last year. I'm still holding out hope that the year is not lost

 

[TheDMC]

It's not fair I gotta tell everybody what I do for a job while everyone else doesn't lol. That's personal stuff mate.

You'll have to guess or take a gamble...

TAB odds setter

 

[Fufu Andronez]

Supercoach has 3 rounds of stats checking.. could be that

 

[Meth]

It's not fair I gotta tell everybody what I do for a job while everyone else doesn't lol. That's personal stuff mate.

You'll have to guess or take a gamble...

I was thinking of robbing your workplace in for mistreating their employees

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I'm still optimistic about Tui in the halves despite all the whinging about him not being up to it. He has shown that he is a goer and I'd back him in to make a good go of this chance in the halves. This is where he wants to play and now he gets the chance to do that. Has played in basically every position that the team has needed him to and we never heard any rumbles about Tui has the shits and wants to leave, also didn't see any lack of effort in any of his games out of his preferred position. That shows to me that he has a fair bit more commitment about him than some other members of the team and none of this primadonna shit about him.

Judge him on what he can produce in this spine not last year. I'm still holding out hope that the year is not lost

It's not whinging mate. We're not haters. I don't think anyone is saying he's not up to it, per se. We're (or I'm) just saying it's a Hail Mary selection. Tui has played 3 positions in seven weeks. I'm pretty certain he'd rather play one, even if he is a good enough kid to not say it publicly or get the pip. But yeah I agree, he puts in every match. His attitude is great. Just some of us don't think the SJ/Tui thing will mesh. I'd rather SJ/Tom if Robson isn't up to it. But maybe Tui closer to the ball will be the silver bullet this side desperately needed.

And I'll be bloody over the moon if it is, I'd rather be wrong. We all love this side, not saying this about you at all but there's this stupid notion amongst fans on social media in particular that if you say something critical that you're a hater and you don't want the best for the side (actually that's an attitude on SKY's coverage too). We do. It's just frustrating and we like to discuss it, we feel like there needs to be change to enjoy our side again. Shit it's been a long time!

And my main issue is our coach is a former NRL halfback who at a guess without checking probably played 100 top grade matches, but has failed to get anything decent out of our halves. That grinds me.