Team vs Panthers

[Noise]

Dunno. Maybe. But, if the media are to be believed, we got one for Kelly for the past couple of weeks.

The reason I ask is because Folau was originally named in the 17 last week. Folau played early in the year when we wouldn't have been busting the 2nd tier cap so I doubt we needed an exemption to play him.

Why would the NRL have allowed Kelly to play last week if we were covered from 1 to 17 when Sandow was available ie. We could have gone out with there with Sandow at 7 instead of Kelly and the rest per program with Robinson at fullback and Falou in the side.

(I probably haven't worded this very clearly but what I am trying to say is why would they have allowed Kelly to play last week when obviously Sandow was available and we had all other positions covered}

 

[hindmarshisgod]

Arthur has lost the plot.

We finally looked like playing to a game plan with kelly and looked good, just getting pipped in the end by quality sides...... and the idiot puts sandclown back in the team

What a dope

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The reason I ask is because Folau was originally named in the 17 last week. Folau played early in the year when we wouldn't have been busting the 2nd tier cap so I doubt we needed an exemption to play him.

Why would the NRL have allowed Kelly to play last week if we were covered from 1 to 17 when Sandow was available ie. We could have gone out with there with Sandow at 7 instead of Kelly and the rest per program with Robinson at fullback and Falou in the side.

(I probably haven't worded this very clearly but what I am trying to say is why would they have allowed Kelly to play last week when obviously Sandow was available and we had all other positions covered}

I get what you're saying (I think....but can't remember who was fit both weeks). One possibility is that Sandow's demotion was not purely form-related and that we asked for permission to demote him for a week or two. Only speculation on my behalf. It's all pretty hard without knowing if and when we hit the 2nd tier cap, and what impact players now at other clubs have on our 2nd tier cap.

 

[The Elephant In The room]

When was the last time a side was picked with three players on the bench ending with O ?

I believe it's a first.

If only Richie was picked, we would have 4 players

I like the fact that there is 4 Paul's on the bench.

 

[The Colonel]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/parr...second-tier-cap/story-e6freuy9-1227370330140?

This might help explain what is going on to...

 

[Twizzle]

It wont stop the usual crew from bashing BA

 

[Obscene Assassin]

The reason I ask is because Folau was originally named in the 17 last week. Folau played early in the year when we wouldn't have been busting the 2nd tier cap so I doubt we needed an exemption to play him.

Why would the NRL have allowed Kelly to play last week if we were covered from 1 to 17 when Sandow was available ie. We could have gone out with there with Sandow at 7 instead of Kelly and the rest per program with Robinson at fullback and Falou in the side.

(I probably haven't worded this very clearly but what I am trying to say is why would they have allowed Kelly to play last week when obviously Sandow was available and we had all other positions covered}

because we needed a fullback, we said that Sandow could play fullback so we moved Robinson back to the wing which allowed us to play Kelly in the halves. Obviously this week with forwards being out we needed those more than we needed Kelly so we changed our dispensation for Alvaro rather than Kelly.

 

[hindy111]

Alvaro is as honest as they come, but if people dont rate Mannah well......

This guy is a cheap version of Tim Mannah IMO. He tries hard and gives everything but lacks power and go forward.He will not make it as a first grader i do not think.But he does have heart so lets hope so.
He will give it 110% on friday night.There wont be a guy more keen to be out there!
The emergence of the white bear.

 

[strider]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/parr...second-tier-cap/story-e6freuy9-1227370330140?

This might help explain what is going on to...

that just asks more question .... why would hte NRL have given us dispensation to play Kelly, a halfback, when we had no injury issues with halfbacks?

you'd have to think maybe sandow was in the doghouse after his car shenanigans and NRL accepted he was suspended .... though it wouldn't explain last week :?

 

[Obscene Assassin]

that just asks more question .... why would hte NRL have given us dispensation to play Kelly, a halfback, when we had no injury issues with halfbacks?

you'd have to think maybe sandow was in the doghouse after his car shenanigans and NRL accepted he was suspended .... though it wouldn't explain last week :?

The NRL probably said we could only have 2 players for dispensation, which would be Wicks and Kelly forcing us to play Sandow somewhere and we must have thought that we couldn't handle him in the front line. With Fa'aoso and Terepo sustaining injuries this week the NRL probably still kept their 2 allowance players for us and we needed Alvaro more than Kelly this week. Hence why we're playing Sef Paulo (Probably Top25) and Alvaro over Kelly.

if Gower, Lussick, and Fa'aoso are available next week then we'll pick 2 from those 3, drop Alvaro and Paulo back to NSW cup and then have Wicks and Kelly as our 2 allowance players with Sandow playing fullback again.

 

[bartman]

It's clear the exemption to play Kelly was granted in relation to the investigtion of Sandow's car incident. It's not just BA dicking around with the selections for laughs.

Sandow's surprise return last game probably meant Kelly's cap exemption was revoked, and his cost for that game levied against our 2nd tier cap. Hence why he couldn't be selected this week without sending us bust. Alvaro can get selected without busting the 2nd tier cap if we get exemption in the front row position, given our current injury toll there.

Team needs more Gower. Sucks having to have Jospeh Paulo back in the side... I guess it's a package deal whenever Sandow plays in the halves.

 

[Chipmunk]

So if I am right in reading all this second tier cap stuff scenario..

Now that Junior Paulo is no longer suspended and once Gower returns from injury, highly probably next week, and Lussick is no longer suspended after this weeks match, then Danny Wicks will no longer be able to be selected in first grade...

FMD...

 

[bartman]

Seems likely. Due to the impact of past contracts on our salary cap, we wont have as much freedom to select/promote/drop players during the season on form when compared to teams who have not breached.

Maybe that's why we were keen to swap Lussick to the Sharks, and sign Gordon for half a season?

We're basically restricted to top 25, and the big injury toll makes it harder - unless we can justify mutiple injuries/limited choices in a particular position for a temporary exemption.

 

[Chipmunk]

Time to write this season off...

I dare say the coach being forced to play players that he no longer wants to play is going to have a real detrimental affect on the mentality of us going forward for the remainder of the season.

I think we could get our first cricket score against us this weekend if we're even remotely not into the game.

 

[Casper The Ghost]

Sef had a strong game for Wenty ??

they must have been watching a different game

Depends which Eels team turns up.

 

[strider]

So if I am right in reading all this second tier cap stuff scenario..

Now that Junior Paulo is no longer suspended and once Gower returns from injury, highly probably next week, and Lussick is no longer suspended after this weeks match, then Danny Wicks will no longer be able to be selected in first grade...

FMD...

I don't think that is correct ... once he plays a game in which the NRL hasn't given us a special dispensation to play him then his entire 2nd tier salary counts against the 2nd tier cap. From that point on we can play him as much as we want.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

The NRL probably said we could only have 2 players for dispensation, which would be Wicks and Kelly forcing us to play Sandow somewhere and we must have thought that we couldn't handle him in the front line.

You reckon Wicks is outside the Top 25 for this year? Even after his early contract extension? I have zero information but wouldn't be surprised if he is in the Top 25 this year (at least after his contract change).

 

[strider]

You reckon Wicks is outside the Top 25 for this year? Even after his early contract extension? I have zero information but wouldn't be surprised if he is in the Top 25 this year (at least after his contract change).

there was an article posted that says he's not top 25 ... but who knows???

 

[Joshuatheeel]

Wicks was playing when everyone was available bar Richie, he was even picked before peni, so I think there is no issue playing him.

 

[hineyrulz]

Would be a disaster if Wicks was unable to play, he's been one of the few positives from a bleak year.