Team vs Storm

[mxlegend99]

Mansour would be the first back picked. No way does Robinson deserve to keep his spot ahead of him.

Robinson and Simmons are competing for the one wing spot with each other. Simmo has stepped up his game, but at the same time he has also been in the better position with a better centre inside him and poor defenders opposite him. Hard to say that Robinson couldn't be doing as good in the same circumstances. Defence is my big concern over Robinson, but he looked much better against the Storm. Actually putting his body and weight into tackles. Against the Eels he barely looked willing to touch a player.

 

[franklin2323]

I think his positioning hasn't been the best to be honest. That is an area I believe Mansour is far better in that is pretty critical.

Fair enough. For me atm it's a toss of the coin job both don't impress me with their defence both can drop the ball at times.

So it's whether we need to raw speed of Robinson against the power & strength of Mansour. I feel we need the extra speed atleast until we have Roberts/Tighe in the centres. Though can live with Mansour in.


Both would of played with no Simmon but now he's a must.

 

[Karnivayne]

Out of curiosity, who is considered to be the most promising player? Moylan, Moss or DWZ?

Moylan or DWZ

Moylan beats DWZ in ball skill but DWZ is 4 years younger and will be bigger, stronger and faster by the time he is 21.

 

[Panthers@Heart]

Went to the game and Shame the Crowd was under 8000. Moylan IMO is better than when Coote started hid career. Walsh and Johns played well together. Makes you wonder why they cant play like this every week. I really thought Goal Kicking would have burnt us

 

[chrisD]

I would bring Tighe in this week, and when he's fit Mansour in at Centre for Tighe and leave Robinson on the wing. Mansour is a younger Matai for mine. Robinson couldn't play centre, forget his positioning but just his tackling wouldn't be up for the extra workload against bigger blokes.

 

[Karnivayne]

I would bring Tighe in this week, and when he's fit Mansour in at Centre for Tighe and leave Robinson on the wing. Mansour is a younger Matai for mine. Robinson couldn't play centre, forget his positioning but just his tackling wouldn't be up for the extra workload against bigger blokes.

okay did you watch the Windsor game? if you did there is no way you would even consider bringing Tighe in.

You are doing what Matt Elliott did for 5 years, picking players on name alone, not form or best choice.

 

[TeamSatan]

Great game ..Watched it at the Orchid inn in Angeles City .Crowd of one. Still a great atmosphere.

Team is getting close to sorted now with the mix of experience and youth combined with some punishing defenders ..Enthusiasm is running high.

Perhaps consistancy will fluctuate but honestly is anyone else thinking top eight?
Yes for me....

 

[Karnivayne]

I would bring Tighe in this week, and when he's fit Mansour in at Centre for Tighe and leave Robinson on the wing. Mansour is a younger Matai for mine. Robinson couldn't play centre, forget his positioning but just his tackling wouldn't be up for the extra workload against bigger blokes.

Mansour is too slow for centre.

 

[franklin2323]

Perhaps consistancy will fluctuate but honestly is anyone else thinking top eight?
Yes for me....

We are 2 points out

Have :

Warriors
Dragons
Bye
Tigers
Dragons
Bye

Could be maximum points there

 

[chrisD]

okay did you watch the Windsor game? if you did there is no way you would even consider bringing Tighe in.

You are doing what Matt Elliott did for 5 years, picking players on name alone, not form or best choice.

If Tighe is not the best available centre then the best available centre should play, Brown is not a centre, he wasn't when Cleary played him there to the despair of Warrior fans and he's not here.

Speed is more important for a winger than a centre, if Mansour is too slow for a centre he is far too slow for a winger. For one thing Mansour is faster than Brown.

 

[age.s]

Great game ..Watched it at the Orchid inn in Angeles City .Crowd of one. Still a great atmosphere.

Team is getting close to sorted now with the mix of experience and youth combined with some punishing defenders ..Enthusiasm is running high.

Perhaps consistancy will fluctuate but honestly is anyone else thinking top eight?
Yes for me....

Top 8 should absolutely be a goal. Get blokes like Mansour, Docker, Roberts and Moylan some big game experience. They'll need it in the next few years.

 

[soc123_au]

Top eight is not out of the question by any stretch. I would sacrifice that though in preference to phasing out those that will be gone next year & continuing to blood the up & comers. I would also love to have a look at Moylan in the halves.

 

[Karnivayne]

If Tighe is not the best available centre then the best available centre should play, Brown is not a centre, he wasn't when Cleary played him there to the despair of Warrior fans and he's not here.

Speed is more important for a winger than a centre, if Mansour is too slow for a centre he is far too slow for a winger. For one thing Mansour is faster than Brown.

Im talking lateral movement not pace, sorry should have clarified. There is a reason why Gordon was never placed at centre, it wasnt because he didnt have the pace it was because he had poor lateral movement.

As a winger you are protected as you have a sideline as cover but centre decision making and lateral movement are key and so far Mansour does not have those two at the moment.

He may develop them and be able to fill in at centre but when you have a choice of either James Roberts or Mansour you will see why Mansour won't be centre.

Tighe has the speed and the lateral movement but makes poor choices, i have my doubts about his upper body strength as well. Depends what you are going for if you want a good attacking pacey back line you would pick Tighe if you want attack whilst neglecting defence, pick Daniela if you want a defensive centre in neglect of attack.

Whare makes good decisions, has moderate pace and good lateral movement that is why he is reliable at centre.

Mansour is a good winger leave him there and Tighe is good at Windsor leave him there.

 

[chrisD]

Nothing wrong with Mansour's lateral movement, again he is no less manoeuvrable than Brown. If we want a good defensive centre void of any attack we can keep Brown there, that's the job he's doing, and it essentially means ball in hand one side of the field is ineffective in attack. I have no problem with Roberts being given the position ahead of Tighe, I have every problem with Brown staying in the position while we have fit specialist centres available or even NRL quality backs.

 

[franklin2323]

Yeah Tighe's main issue is strength. He doesn't break tackles either & struggles to put players on the ground.

 

[betcats]

Im talking lateral movement not pace, sorry should have clarified. There is a reason why Gordon was never placed at centre, it wasnt because he didnt have the pace it was because he had poor lateral movement.

As a winger you are protected as you have a sideline as cover but centre decision making and lateral movement are key and so far Mansour does not have those two at the moment.

He may develop them and be able to fill in at centre but when you have a choice of either James Roberts or Mansour you will see why Mansour won't be centre.

Tighe has the speed and the lateral movement but makes poor choices, i have my doubts about his upper body strength as well. Depends what you are going for if you want a good attacking pacey back line you would pick Tighe if you want attack whilst neglecting defence, pick Daniela if you want a defensive centre in neglect of attack.

Whare makes good decisions, has moderate pace and good lateral movement that is why he is reliable at centre.

Mansour is a good winger leave him there and Tighe is good at Windsor leave him there.

Nothing wrong with Mansour's lateral movement, again he is no less manoeuvrable than Brown. If we want a good defensive centre void of any attack we can keep Brown there, that's the job he's doing, and it essentially means ball in hand one side of the field is ineffective in attack. I have no problem with Roberts being given the position ahead of Tighe, I have every problem with Brown staying in the position while we have fit specialist centre's available or even NRL quality backs.

How do you guys know this stuff? are they just opinions you have formed by watching the games or are you at training sessions talking to our coaching staff??

 

[Karnivayne]

Nothing wrong with Mansour's lateral movement, again he is no less manoeuvrable than Brown. If we want a good defensive centre void of any attack we can keep Brown there, that's the job he's doing, and it essentially means ball in hand one side of the field is ineffective in attack. I have no problem with Roberts being given the position ahead of Tighe, I have every problem with Brown staying in the position while we have fit specialist centre's available or even NRL quality backs.

That is the job Cleary wanted for Brown at centre, he has stated several times that defence is what is going to win games. Defensively Brown is better than Tighe or Naiqama so i'm happy for him to be there until Roberts is fit then he can move back to second row, Matt Robinson to the bench and Newton drops off.

Would you prefer Naiqama at centre, he is a specialist centre? He will be fit by Rnd 12.

 

[Karnivayne]

How do you guys know this stuff? are they just opinions you have formed by watching the games or are you at training sessions talking to our coaching staff??

Just my own opinions.

 

[chrisD]

I have no inside information, I've seen Brown and Mansour move left and right and that's my opinion. I can remember Brown being rounded a few times for the warriors and almost once for us, Mansour closes all right on an open winger with no real reason to think he's particularly deficient in that area.

 

[chrisD]

Yes I'd take Wes over Brown at centre. Brown is not, never has been and never will be a centre. He is a back rower. He was covering while everyone was injured, now they're not he needs to go back where he belongs. Picking a centre primarily on his defensive ability is defeatist, besides Brown hasn't had to contend with the sorts of overlaps Tighe and Wes had coming at them.