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Ten best full backs of the NRL era

Vic Mackey

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So why would Brasher have taken Mullins Australian spot then? You can't have it both ways.

Well what your saying is again hypothetical. Really we can only deal with facts.

Mullins beat out Brasher on one occasion for Rep selection during the 12 seasons they played together in the NRL
 

Edwahu

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Well what your saying is again hypothetical. Really we can only deal with facts.

Mullins beat out Brasher on one occasion for Rep selection during the 12 seasons they played together in the NRL

Yep, banning most of the incumbent rep players made no difference at all to any players rep careers and records.
 
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Vic Mackey

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Yep, banning most of the incumbent rep players made no difference at all to any players rep careers and records.

Of course it did. However I don’t think it’s as simplistic as saying ‘we can swap 8 test matches around.’ Mullins didn’t even play a single SL game at fullback for NSW or Aus
 

9701

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He was always a good player, then in 1997 he started playing out of his skin. It was nearly like he took some magic potion that gave him an advantage over everyone else.
Oh he doesn't qualify because of his indiscretions, I guess that scratches a few off the lists then.
 

simmo05

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Five years is a very long time. He's already lost some of his speed. He's got the step and can read the play but he'll find those holes closing on him more and more. My fearless tip is that the Roosters will be looking to offload him within 2 years.
They can keep the merkin
 

The Rosco

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but isn't the argument against guys like Wesser, Hodgson etc casue they didn't do it over their whole careers? why is Mini allowed a pass for 3 years at the top?
Praise be !!!!!
Mini, while a capable fullback, was the subject of the biggest media gush in the history of the game.
Forget every other media darling, he was THE ONE.
He could play, mind you . . . but for the first 60% odd of his career, he was unreliable to say the least. But the media still painted him as the Messiah.
He did get those dropped passes, uber dumb options and crap decisions out of his game for the last 3 or 4 odd seasons, but he was Carige-esque many times, over many games, over many years in his career.
Now, who's it gonna be ? . . . Albert, Steeden or Stevo ?
I reckon Albesteeden.
 

madunit

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This is misleading as its distorted by the super league ban. Most of Brashers tests were in 1995 when Mullins only lost his spot because he was banned. Probably be closer to even if it wasn't for that.
But Brasher would've still been ahead. So your point is moot.
 

Tommy Smith

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Praise be !!!!!
Mini, while a capable fullback, was the subject of the biggest media gush in the history of the game.
Forget every other media darling, he was THE ONE.
He could play, mind you . . . but for the first 60% odd of his career, he was unreliable to say the least. But the media still painted him as the Messiah.
He did get those dropped passes, uber dumb options and crap decisions out of his game for the last 3 or 4 odd seasons, but he was Carige-esque many times, over many games, over many years in his career.
Now, who's it gonna be ? . . . Albert, Steeden or Stevo ?
I reckon Albesteeden.
Lol go home you're drunk.

The first 60% of his career was his best.

He absolutely destroyed Qld for 3 straight years between 2003-2005 where NSW won 3 straight series.

He also won back to back Harry Sunderland Medals as the Kangaroos best player on tour.

In that 2005 season he won the Golden Boot as the world's best player (when the award meant something).

Oh and before he moved to fullback he was a world class Premiership winning winger for 3 years.

Before his serious back injury Mini was an absolute beast and the best kick returner I've ever seen.

"But but Brett Hodgson was better!!"
 

Vic Mackey

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Lol go home you're drunk.

The first 60% of his career was his best.

He absolutely destroyed Qld for 3 straight years between 2003-2005 where NSW won 3 straight series.

He also won back to back Harry Sunderland Medals as the Kangaroos best player on tour.

In that 2005 season he won the Golden Boot as the world's best player (when the award meant something).

Oh and before he moved to fullback he was a world class Premiership winning winger for 3 years.

Before his serious back injury Mini was an absolute beast and the best kick returner I've ever seen.

"But but Brett Hodgson was better!!"

I don’t think you’ll find anyone saying Hodgson was a better player then Mini, nor that he wasn’t a very good player.
It’s moreso that the Bondi cheer girls in here are talking him up as an equal to Slater/Lockyer and completely disregard any opinion that another fullback who was better then him.
 

madunit

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Lol go home you're drunk.

The first 60% of his career was his best.

He absolutely destroyed Qld for 3 straight years between 2003-2005 where NSW won 3 straight series.

He also won back to back Harry Sunderland Medals as the Kangaroos best player on tour.

In that 2005 season he won the Golden Boot as the world's best player (when the award meant something).

Oh and before he moved to fullback he was a world class Premiership winning winger for 3 years.

Before his serious back injury Mini was an absolute beast and the best kick returner I've ever seen.

"But but Brett Hodgson was better!!"
Brett Hodgson was a different type of player and brilliant in his own right. I don't think he should be discussed in such a sarcastic tone.

Minichiello was better than Hodgson, but Hodgson was one of the top fullbacks in the world for the entirety of his career - but was never THE top.
 

Edwahu

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But Brasher would've still been ahead. So your point is moot.

My only point was the record was distorted heavily by the ban, which it clearly was. Context could've been included when the records got posted but unsurprisingly wasn't.
 
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Valheru

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I don’t think you’ll find anyone saying Hodgson was a better player then Mini, nor that he wasn’t a very good player.
It’s moreso that the Bondi cheer girls in here are talking him up as an equal to Slater/Lockyer and completely disregard any opinion that another fullback who was better then him.

He was better than locky in 03, the only season they both played fullback.

Cant say he was better than slater but i do question how long slater would have had to wait to get the kangaroo FB spot if mini didn't get injured?
 

Vic Mackey

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My only point was the record was distorted heavily by the ban, which it clearly was. Context could've been included when the records got posted but unsurprisingly wasn't.

Now you’re just being a little bitch. By that logic every rep record, games played etc should have an asterix next to it. Who knows, someone might have been injured and therefore he wouldn’t have been picked.
 

Valheru

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Praise be !!!!!
Mini, while a capable fullback, was the subject of the biggest media gush in the history of the game.
Forget every other media darling, he was THE ONE.
He could play, mind you . . . but for the first 60% odd of his career, he was unreliable to say the least. But the media still painted him as the Messiah.
He did get those dropped passes, uber dumb options and crap decisions out of his game for the last 3 or 4 odd seasons, but he was Carige-esque many times, over many games, over many years in his career.
Now, who's it gonna be ? . . . Albert, Steeden or Stevo ?
I reckon Albesteeden.

What games are you referring to where he was bad or mistake prone?
 

Edwahu

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Now you’re just being a little bitch. By that logic every rep record, games played etc should have an asterix next to it. Who knows, someone might have been injured and therefore he wouldn’t have been picked.
I'll leave you to it then.
 

madunit

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My only point was the record was distorted heavily by the ban, which it clearly was. Context could've been included when the records got posted but unsurprisingly wasn't.
Brasher would've remained ahead, no matter how you want to tweak it mate.

So the point still stands, you arguing is over semantics that have no bearing on the overall result.

What you've effectively done is had an argument that resulted in no change and only served to waste your own time.
 

nick87

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Actually I think his point is that Mullins was better than Brasher
And his point has been well made and (I assume) universally accept as fact
 
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