That is why origin > tests

[ANTiLAG]

LOL Do you want to use that pic more?

Yes. Every time someone brings up viewers or money.

I notice you ignored my comment about continuing to bring up the past with not a peep about the future.

Tell me about your knowledge of the future Nostradamus Shorty. The rest of us mere mortals utilise history to predict and mould the future as much as we can to prevent 'history continually repeating itself'.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Casino.

He got an oscar for Goodfellas, which is by far held in more critical claim for both his iconic performance and the film itself.

Casino as a film and his performance was excellent. He was still a supporting actor under De Niro and the film grossed far less than Home Alone 2. His performance was far less iconic than Goodfellas, as was the film itself.

So even if you think Casino was his pinnacle, my argument holds.

 

[Mr Fourex]

How is it a technicality? Test football is the highest form. A pinnacle is the highest point of something is it not? Please tell me how representing Australia is below representing New South Wales? Because of TV ratings?? Please.

You even said yourself that the quality of RL is higher in SOO than Int RL.

So the pinnacle of RL has sub standard quality....?

I don't think so.

Representing your country might be by your definaition the highest form/ pinnacle for representive RL, but it is definately NOT the highest form / pinnacle for quality RL

If NZ, GB, France and who ever else calls themselves serious contenders weren't such absolute crap

then the story might be different.

 

[Shorty]

No need to insult people just because your argument is flawed. Go act like a f**khead somewhere else if you think people who disagree with you are deluded.

LOL No, I think most would agree because of the fact that you're trying to paint that anything does better than SOO in terms of exposure and revenue, among other things.

Don't get up in arms because I called it as I saw it.
SOO is the biggest representative of the sport, it earns the most money, ratings , it gives League the most exposure and more often than not is the highest quality in the game.
Arguing til you're blue in the face won't change that.
You're not very realistic, are you?

Tell me about your knowledge of the future Nostradamus Shorty. The rest of us mere mrotals utilise history to predict and mould the future.

:roll::roll:

 

[ANTiLAG]

:roll::roll:

Yes, we're all very proud of your use of emoticons.

Got anything?

 

[ANTiLAG]

You even said yourself that the quality of RL is higher in SOO than Int RL.

So the pinnacle of RL has sub standard quality....?

Absolutely not. The RLWC final was of great quality. Ask anyone, bar Sticky about the refs. Hmmm, where else do we hear him complain about the refs?

I don't think so.

Representing your country might be by your definaition the highest form/ pinnacle for representive RL, but it is definately NOT the highest form / pinnacle for quality RL

If NZ, GB, France and who ever else calls themselves serious contenders weren't such absolute crap

then the story might be different.

If NZ weren't contenders, they wouldn't have won the RLWC over a combined best of two origin teams.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Oh dear, lol you're actually contesting that SOO is not the breadwinner, deluded.

In 1992, Home Alone 2 made over 350 million at the Box office. Far, far, far greater bread winner than Unforgiven or A Few Good Men.

Which were the better films in your opinion?

Home Alone 2 was also a greater breadwinner for Joe Pesci than Goodfellas, his pinnacle.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Absolutely not. The RLWC final was of great quality. Ask anyone, bar Sticky about the refs. Hmmm, where else do we hear him complain about the refs?



If NZ weren't contenders, they wouldn't have won the RLWC over a combined best of two origin teams.

So you're giving me one game Vs years of being thrashed and playing at a level where an Australian 2nds team could have put 20 or 30 on you......:roll:

For rep honours it's int RL

for playing in the highest quality RL. SOO can't be beaten.

You'll need more than one game to change that fact.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Home Alone 2 was also a greater breadwinner for Joe Pesci than Goodfellas, his pinnacle.

I can't stand Bill Collins at the best of times.

Your autistic version of him is causing violent urges

......please stop.

 

[Fire]

Pesci was epic in both Goodfellas and Casino.

I like the scene in Casino where Customs is going through his luggage and his wife is blowing up, and he says to Customs "Hey, don't look at me, pal. I gotta live with her..." :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Joker's Wild]

That doesn't mean anything! Christ you might as well say 'when was the last time 3 Dragons vs Bulldogs games sold out? See, Collingwood vs Essendon is better'. It's the same argument used by AFL fans now being used by Rugby league fans, the same fans that argue rugby league is a better sport even with less crowds and ratings.

OK mate, when was the last time an Int'l game had higher TV ratings than SOO?

 

[ANTiLAG]

So you're giving me one game Vs years of being thrashed and playing at a level where an Australian 2nds team could have put 20 or 30 on you......:roll:

For rep honours it's int RL

for playing in the highest quality RL. SOO can't be beaten.

You'll need more than one game to change that fact.

Please, tell me more about the high qualities of Brett Finch, Mitchell Pearce, Jamie Soward, Mark Gasnier, Brath Anasta and an old Barrett qualities in the halves over Foran, Benji and Johnson. Tell me more about how Ben Creagh is better than Jeremy Smith. Or how Michael Ennis is just sublime over Isaac Luke and Nathan Fien. Please tell me more about how Sam Burgess, Jamie Pocock or Adrian Morley aren't up there in quality with King, Perry, and Lillyman.

1 game? 2005, 2010, tri-nations finals ring bells?

But the RLWC is the ultimate. It is the most important. It is the pinnacle.

 

[ANTiLAG]

OK mate, when was the last time an Int'l game had higher TV ratings than SOO?

In 1992, Home Alone 2 made over 350 million at the Box office. Far, far, far more viewers than Unforgiven or A Few Good Men.

Which were the better films in your opinion?

 

[Mr Fourex]

Please, tell me more about the high qualities of Brett Finch, Mitchell Pearce, Jamie Soward, Mark Gasnier, Brath Anasta and an old Barrett qualities in the halves over Foran, Benji and Johnson. Tell me more about how Ben Creagh is better than Jeremy Smith. Or how Michael Ennis is just sublime over Isaac Luke and Nathan Fien. Please tell me more about how Sam Burgess, Jamie Pocock or Adrian Morley aren't up there in quality with King, Perry, and Lillyman.

I don't get this.

How is comparing Australian nuffies to your international stars actually benefiting your argument?

and all bar one are NSW players. They have been shit for quite some time now.

Might have made sense if you tried to compare them to the actual players who would most likely be partaking in int RL games.

But the RLWC is the ultimate. It is the most important.

To who.......?

You and your woolly friends......:lol:

It's only because you've had f*ck all else to cheer about........for decades.

 

[Joker's Wild]

lol keep chucking that pic bro, it doesn't gain anymore relevance with repetition

U jelly of SOO and wish everyone thought the WC means anything at all. It doesn't though but its all you've got so I don't blame you for dogedly clinging to any achievement no matter how far in the past it was

How sad

 

[ANTiLAG]

I don't get this.

How is comparing Australian nuffies to your international stars actually benefiting your argument?

and all bar one are NSW players. They have been shit for quite some time now.

Exactly, there are international stars in the international game. NSW have had some shit players and been shit for quite "some time now" and you talk about quality?

To who.......?

You and your woolly friends......:lol:

It's only because you've had f*ck all else to cheer about........for decades.

NZ holds the Rugby Union World Cup, the Rugby league World Cup and went further than Australia in the recent Cricket World Cup. All Australia has to cheer about is Origin. Although someone liked Cadel Evans glory.

Try again.

 

[Ladmate]

International League is the highest level, but the quality is 'meh' because of no competition. I would rather watch an Origin game any day of the week, the chance of a better match is much greater and thats why we watch sport in the end. To be entertained.

 

[ANTiLAG]

lol keep chucking that pic bro, it doesn't gain anymore relevance with repetition

If so, neither do ratings or attendance arguments, then.

U jelly of SOO and wish everyone thought the WC means anything at all. It doesn't though but its all you've got so I don't blame you for dogedly clinging to any achievement no matter how far in the past it was

How sad

 

[Mr Fourex]

Exactly, there are international stars in the international game. NSW have had some shit players and been shit for quite "some time now" and you talk about quality?

Well obviously when we're talking quality of the players .......it's the QLD'rs that spring to mind. The quality of the game as a whole is what is played at the highest level.

and it's a high enough quality, that even the numpties that you've mentioned can somehow miraculously lift their game to a level not seen any where but in a game of SOO

after the series is over they more often than not return to being......mehh!

You don't often see that in the int game. Well you will in regards to Kiwis and Poms ....because that's all they have.

Pity you both don't have something like SOO to try and lift your players games.

NZ holds the Rugby Union World Cup, the Rugby league World Cup and went further than Australia in the recent Cricket World Cup. All Australia has to cheer about is Origin.

Thought the topic was RL ........?:?

You keep desperately trying to deflect from that with your unrelated sports and your insights into the motion picture world ........

why is that?

 

[Knightmare]

I rate Test football over Origin, and I would support the Kiwis joining NSW and Qld in the Origin arena- it could be a Tri series with all three teams playing eachother home and away, and the two sides contesting the final determined by points aggregate. The final would be played home and away, with the team (again) scoring the most points over both legs being deemed the Champions.

Origin is seen as the pinnacle because it is (generally) a much more even contest. Even though NSW have not won a series since 2005 (although hopefully that changes in the next few weeks ;-) ) there has only been one series since then where the Blues didn't manage to win at least one game. Even a look at the scores in those games reveals only a handful have been blowouts.

It is very small minded to claim that Origin is the worldwide pinnacle of Rugby League, but blame should also be levelled at the foreign teams for not raising the standard. If England could match (even beat) the Kangaroo teams more frequently, it would raise the passion and the intensity of Test football. Thankfully the Kiwis are starting to get their act together, but the reason many players (and fans) in Australia seemingly value Origin over Test football is because Origin is the closest, most nerve-racking encounter at this point in time. I do look forward to a time when Test football is at least on the same level. That's more a problem for NZ and GB to fix, and less of a problem the ARL can fix...