That is why origin > tests

[hutch]

Honestly I don't understand how players like Tamou and Hunt can turn their backs on New Zealand like that.

Oh wait it's probably because Tests>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Origin

No but seriously, players who do that make me sick.

Hunt didn't turn his back on NZ, he never had any intention of playing for them. There was no problem with him playing for Australia. Tamou is a different story.

 

[Fast Eddie]

Hunt didn't turn his back on NZ, he never had any intention of playing for them.

I can't be bothered reading this thread or getting involved in it but I have to point out that I don't think this is true.

 

[NrlCoach]

if they ref'd test matches like origin it would be the same quality...

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

That argument would be valid if the quality of football in tests was better than Origin. Fact is it isn't.

Has anyone ever spoken of a classic test match in the last 20 years? The half full stadiums in Australia for tests speak volumes for the carefactor of tests which rests at f**k all.

 

[Aragorn]

Has anyone ever spoken of a classic test match in the last 20 years? The half full stadiums in Australia for tests speak volumes for the carefactor of tests which rests at f**k all.

That dust up between Tamati and Greg Dowling was a right old hoot.

We need another big one like that to get us all excited about the int. game.

 

[Springs]

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You're getting should mixed up with 'is'.
Test football and international in general is not the pinnacle, yes, it should be but it simply isn't.

It's funny that Lag keeps posting pics of an aged victory and not actually saying 'And we'll beat Australia again' lol that speaks volumes.

Why do people not understand what a pinnacle is? It's the highest level, not the best quality or most passionate or the one that rakes in the most money. Otherwise I could say the Grand Final is the pinnacle.

Only Australians can play Origin, how can it be the pinnacle of the entire sport if the highest level is only available to players from one country? Origin might be the pinnacle of the NRL season but of the sport? No. Those playing ESL aren't waiting around for the Origin.

Origin is playing for your state. Tests for your country. Australian sides include the BEST of NSW and QLD. How is that not the pinnacle? The best of the best? How is playing for NSW and QLD a higher level than playing for Australia? It's not. Players will tell you the Australian jersey is the highest honour. Many Origin players will never play for Australia because they are not good enough. How can a game that includes players that aren't good enough to play tests for Australia be the pinnacle? The highest level? It can't. And it's not.

 

[adamkungl]

Has anyone ever spoken of a classic test match in the last 20 years?

Yes. In this very thread, actually.

 

[Springs]

Has anyone ever spoken of a classic test match in the last 20 years? The half full stadiums in Australia for tests speak volumes for the carefactor of tests which rests at f**k all.

50,000 at Suncorp for the World Cup Final in which NZ won their first ever world cup in a game that easily matched the quality and drama of most Origin games. How is that not a classic test match?
Here's several others:
- Australia vs New Zealand Tri Nations final, 2006 (Best game of the year by far)
- England vs PNG 2008 (The opening first half where PNG dominated was some of the most passionate football you'll ever see, by semi pro footballers showing how much their country and football meant to them)
- Australia vs New Zealand Four Nations 2009 at London. Finished 20-all.
- Australia vs New Zealand Four Nations final 2010

It matters not what the attendances were. Even if an Australian team with the BEST of New South Wales and Queensland ran out to 200 fans it's still the highest level.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Well, what are they?

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

50,000 at Suncorp for the World Cup Final in which NZ won their first ever world cup in a game that easily matched the quality and drama of most Origin games. How is that not a classic test match?
Here's several others:
- Australia vs New Zealand Tri Nations final, 2006 (Best game of the year by far)
- England vs PNG 2008 (The opening first half where PNG dominated was some of the most passionate football you'll ever see, by semi pro footballers showing how much their country and football meant to them)
- Australia vs New Zealand Four Nations 2009 at London. Finished 20-all.
- Australia vs New Zealand Four Nations final 2010

It matters not what the attendances were. Even if an Australian team with the BEST of New South Wales and Queensland ran out to 200 fans it's still the highest level.

f**k, 5 in the last 20 years! Amazing! One was so classic it was only half a game :lol:

 

[Shorty]

Why do people not understand what a pinnacle is? It's the highest level, not the best quality or most passionate or the one that rakes in the most money. Otherwise I could say the Grand Final is the pinnacle.

Only Australians can play Origin, how can it be the pinnacle of the entire sport if the highest level is only available to players from one country? Origin might be the pinnacle of the NRL season but of the sport? No. Those playing ESL aren't waiting around for the Origin.

Origin is playing for your state. Tests for your country. Australian sides include the BEST of NSW and QLD. How is that not the pinnacle? The best of the best? How is playing for NSW and QLD a higher level than playing for Australia? It's not. Players will tell you the Australian jersey is the highest honour. Many Origin players will never play for Australia because they are not good enough. How can a game that includes players that aren't good enough to play tests for Australia be the pinnacle? The highest level? It can't. And it's not.

LOL You honestly believe players think playing for Australia is the highest honour? Compared to putting on a Blue or Maroon jersey?
Do you see players battling nerves and throwing up before a test match?

Like I said, test/int football should be but it IS NOT.

 

[NrlCoach]

Why do people not understand what a pinnacle is? It's the highest level, not the best quality or most passionate or the one that rakes in the most money. Otherwise I could say the Grand Final is the pinnacle.

Only Australians can play Origin, how can it be the pinnacle of the entire sport if the highest level is only available to players from one country? Origin might be the pinnacle of the NRL season but of the sport? No. Those playing ESL aren't waiting around for the Origin.

Origin is playing for your state. Tests for your country. Australian sides include the BEST of NSW and QLD. How is that not the pinnacle? The best of the best? How is playing for NSW and QLD a higher level than playing for Australia? It's not. Players will tell you the Australian jersey is the highest honour. Many Origin players will never play for Australia because they are not good enough. How can a game that includes players that aren't good enough to play tests for Australia be the pinnacle? The highest level? It can't. And it's not.

 

[Fire]

Origin would be better if New Zealand was allowed to compete in it. NSW and QLD fans would still get their manic bloodlust fix, and it'd be good to see the Kiwi's in the 'Origin arena'.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Has anyone ever spoken of a classic test match in the last 20 years? The half full stadiums in Australia for tests speak volumes for the carefactor of tests which rests at f**k all.

Tone, you're back!

So which one is it, could you not count or not read? Or both.

RLWC Classics in the last 20 years:

1992 RLWC final: AWESOME.

1995 RLWC Semi-Final NZ-Aus was AWESOME.

1995: Final: AWESOME.

2000: Final: Awesome for 60 minutes.

RLWC FINAL 2008: AWESOME.

It is the big game. The big show. It declares World Champions.

Obviously an Australian may not appreciate the 24-0 drubbing by NZ over Australia, so I won't get into that, or even drawn tests.

Now as for half full stadiums in Australia, the RLWC final was a sell out in Brisbane:

But the relevance of that argument is as follows...

No, 5 million viewers says it's 5 million viewers.

In 1992, Home Alone 2 made over 350 million at the Box office. Far, far, far more more viewers than Unforgiven or A Few Good Men.
Which were the better films in your opinion?

But just because the stadiums are half full, doesn't change that it is the pinnacle. You think the pinnacle of Joe Pesci's career was to act with McCauley Culkin? Or his Oscar winning performance in afilm that did under 50 million at the box office? You think Clint Eastwood's pinnacle of work at that time was the commercially successful Dirty Harrys or Unforgiven?

A person in the movie industry does much for the money, IBleedMaroon, but the pinnacle is an Oscar win. Or a piece of work that outs them in the running for an Oscar. Not necessarily a 50 million dollar return. You think Robert Downey Jnr's pinnacle work is Iron Man in The Avengers? That has made him the most coin.

But hey, you wanna watch McCauley Culkin over Clint Eastwood or Jack Nicholson, that is your business. "Popularity" does not necessarily equate with the pinnacle. Paris Hilton sold more music albums than many Carnegie Hall concert pianists or Classical singers, does not mean she was at the pinnacle of a music career or produced better quality than them.

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Didn't Australia win a game by over 100 points? Classic :lol:

Not sure what Joe Pesci or Maukaly Caulkin has to do with this? :?

The half full stadiums show people don't care as much as origin. Fact.

 

[ANTiLAG]

Not sure what Joe Pesci or Maukaly Caulkin has to do with this? :?

No, I bet you don't.

The half full stadiums show people don't care as much as origin. Fact.

Tone, you don't even go to Origin games. So by your logic and actions, you couldn't care less about origin or tests. Fact.

 

[Springs]

f**k, 5 in the last 20 years! Amazing! One was so classic it was only half a game :lol:

No... that's in the last 4 years if you didn't notice. :roll:

 

[Tonearm Terrorwrist]

Well for a start Joe Pesci won an Oscar for a supporting role and not a lead role, isn't the pinnacle of acting being in a lead role lol ?

 

[ANTiLAG]

He had a supporting role too in Home Alone 2 you fool.

Can't all be halves or spine stars. Need props too.

 

[Mr Fourex]

Origin would be better if New Zealand was allowed to compete in it. NSW and QLD fans would still get their manic bloodlust fix, and it'd be good to see the Kiwi's in the 'Origin arena'.

Nothing wrong with Origin the way it is. You were told before this was a shit idea......except it

it's a shit idea

No need to try and bring it back to life every couple of weeks .......:roll: