The 2013/2014 Off Season Thread

[Gronk]

Must be why we are seeing lower rates of both child sexual abuse and prescription of drugs to children, to coincide with declining church attendance. :roll:

Argh. Making shit up again.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Sarcasm actually. Try and keep up Sheldon.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Speaking of abuse, I was watching Play School recently and who other than Brooke Satchwell was frontman. How the mighty have fallen. Her mouth was smiling but the whole time she had the cold, dead eyes of a stripper.

Ramsay Street must be full right now.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

Well she's not so likely to get beaten up by Jemima.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Who knows what goes on behind closed doors?

 

[Gronk]

From today's Guardian.

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images...2014/6/20/1403234385494/Chaplaincycartoon.jpg

 

[Matraville Eel]

tl;dr

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

rk:fx

 

[Bigfella]

What a load of crap, I know for a fact I will be living it up with dozens of virgins on a desert island.

So will they

 

[oldmancraigy]

The case has raised serious concerns among the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and intersex (LGBTI) community, with allegations that chaplains’ religious beliefs make them illsuited to support young people struggling with their sexuality.

http://www.news.com.au/national/ser...nt-to-initiative/story-fncynjr2-1226961285904

LoL. Pot. Kettle. Black.
The LGBTI community is ill-suited to help people struggling with their sexuality, because they are pushing their own agenda.
People who are 'struggling' with it, are (by definition) not sure which way they want to go. The noisy minority (this LGBTI community) want to push everyone their way, and anyone who doesn't want to go that way is ridiculed, threatened, bullied, and ostracised.

I think the telling part of the article is this:

“Teachers do a great job, but they don’t have time to help kids who are disengaged or unhappy. Chaplains are non-judgemental and trained to listen and care … they’re somebody who’s there to support the student thick and thin,” Mr James said.
He said the facts didn’t support allegations that chaplains were trying to convert students to religion.
“Around 2900 schools have chosen to have a chaplain, and in 2013, only one complaint nationally was received,” Mr James said.

Whoops.
1 complaint about the work of the chaplains in 9 years? Across thousands of schools and hundreds of thousands of students??? HORRIBLE. How can they look in the mirror at night.

And some bozo in Queensland is trying to get rid of this because?

 

[Gronk]

Whoops.
1 complaint about the work of the chaplains in 9 years? Across thousands of schools and hundreds of thousands of students??? HORRIBLE. How can they look in the mirror at night.

And some bozo in Queensland is trying to get rid of this because?

It said 1 complaint in 2013 not 9 years. Anyway it's not about complaints. It's about offering appropriate advice

The point is that schools should be able to choose if they go down the counsellor path or chaplain path. Why bitch about that ?

 

[SDM]

So will they

I am saving myself for post martyrdom.

 

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

I'm wondering what beer I should have at the Wig.......

 

[oldmancraigy]

It said 1 complaint in 2013 not 9 years. Anyway it's not about complaints. It's about offering appropriate advice

The point is that schools should be able to choose if they go down the counsellor path or chaplain path. Why bitch about that ?

I have no issue with that at all - but the way you're carrying on it's as if the counsellor path is the only valid option.

I can't see what harm the chaplains are doing? They are only hired at the discretion of school principals, and (quite frankly) those guys determine the overall ideology of the school anyway. Seems to have been greater buy-in from them on the chaplain front as compared to the counsellor front?

 

[oldmancraigy]

I'm wondering what beer I should have at the Wig.......

What has that got to do with global warming??

 

[Gronk]

I have no issue with that at all - but the way you're carrying on it's as if the counsellor path is the only valid option.

I can't see what harm the chaplains are doing? They are only hired at the discretion of school principals, and (quite frankly) those guys determine the overall ideology of the school anyway. Seems to have been greater buy-in from them on the chaplain front as compared to the counsellor front?

You're out of touch OMC. You really think that the youth of today are happy to open up with a chaplain with regards to relationships, sexuality, drugs, suicide, bullying etc compared a social worker (counsellor) of their generation and in tune with their mindset ?

Surely the needs of the youth are more important than some f**ked up ideology concocted by middle aged white male conservatives ? They have no idea really who an Australian in 2014 is. Rather they just have an idea of who they want them to be.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I'm wondering what beer I should have at the Wig.......

I just had a couple of pints of Little Creatures Pale at the OBH. I get the same thing every single time.

To my delicate palate it tastes no different to VB or Carlton Draught, and they're nearly $3 cheaper. I don't drink often so when I do I may as well pay a bit extra to look like a complete wanker, as opposed to the partial wanker I normally seem to be.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

What does it all mean Poupou?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You're out of touch OMC. You really think that the youth of today are happy to open up with a chaplain with regards to relationships, sexuality, drugs, suicide, bullying etc compared a social worker (counsellor) of their generation and in tune with their mindset ?

Absolutely. Kids want certainty, and they want genuine symbols of authority to push against. They at least want to know, when they get rebellious, what they are rebelling against.

The last thing kids want is some androtrop arse social worker trying to validate every idiot f**king idea that goes through their head. Kids want boundaries. Even of they intend to completely subvert those boundaries.

Or do you think modern kids are any different to when you were young? Kids mightn't make good decisions but they aren't stupid. They're not as easily brainwashed as you think.

Surely the needs of the youth are more important than some f**ked up ideology concocted by middle aged white male conservatives ? They have no idea really who an Australian in 2014 is. Rather they just have an idea of who they want them to be.

So who is an Australian in 2014 then Gronk? If there is a problem with adolescence today it's that young people don't know who they are or even who they're supposed to be, and few people have the balls to tell them. Especially young Anglo kids. They have weak family identities and no cultural heritage to use as a touchstone. Over a hundred years ago Emile Durkheim called it 'anomie', and 17 years ago Ice Cube described the condition thusly: "It's packed, gentlemen don't know how to act..."

If there's one thing Durkheim, Cube, and middle aged conservatives know, it's who they f**king are. Australian youth need to be told who they are, so they at least have a starting point to embrace or reject. Without boundaries there's not even a framework. Just being told what is and isn't legal is not enough. They need to hear about old fashioned terms like 'right' and 'wrong'. If they're too weak and stupid not to be brainwashed by that then someone was always going to get them anyway. In this country it may as well be the Christians.

After all, they built the joint.

 

[Maroubra Eel]

Geez you talk some shit.